Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #56

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Poverty, lack of municipal infrastructure, etc. etc.

From the article:
"Groundwater in Navajo Nation is often contaminated in areas surrounding some 521 abandoned uranium mines."
 
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Up to 100 UK children have had rare virus reaction

'Exceptionally rare'

"Prof Russell Viner, president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, said the majority of children who have had the condition have responded to treatment and are getting better and starting to go home.

The syndrome is "exceptionally rare", he said.

"This shouldn't stop parents letting their children exit lockdown," Prof Viner added.

He said understanding more about the inflammatory disease "might explain why some children become very ill with Covid-19, while the majority are unaffected or asymptomatic".

Children are thought to make up just 1-2% of all cases of coronavirus infection, accounting for less than 500 admissions to hospital.


Michael Levin, professor of paediatrics and international child health at Imperial, explained that most of the children tested negative for coronavirus, but tested positive for detection of antibodies.

"So we really think that the biology of the disease, somehow involves an unusual immune response to the virus," he said.

However he said there was a vast amount to learn about the reaction, which had only been known about for two to three weeks.

Children appear to be affected up to six weeks after they have been infected with the virus, which could explain the appearance of the new syndrome several weeks after the peak of cases.

There have been similar cases in the US, Spain, Italy, France and the Netherlands.

Child health experts in the UK say it may not be something which just affects children.

They are now working with researchers in the US and across Europe to find out more about what they have called paediatric inflammatory multisystem syndrome or (PIMS-TS)."

How strange most of the children tested negative for coronavirus, but tested positive for detection of antibodies?
 
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Agreed.......This has a good chance to become a very long hot, divided, Virus civil disobedience at the least, Summer, possibly nation wide even.....moo
Agree @cody22 . Our country was polarized before the virus. I think from now until the end of 2020, we will live in a world of "we and them". Sadly, because of my age, I won't be here to see COVID's legacy. I'd give anything to be around 50 years from now to how history defines our nation.
 
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We had a hand written letter arrive in our mailbox early today. Wanting to buy our House??? Claimed to have purchased 11 properties in our area and wanting 3 more. It was a lengthy letter. Will purchase without any kind of tour inside. It went thru the shredder and I washed my hands. Lordy!

what the what the???!
 
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what the what the???!
I know. Bizarre. Even signed his name. If that's even real. Friends of ours Son and Wife bought a new house just before all the pandemic restrictions and were caught up in a mortgage fraud scheme. It all got straightened out thankfully.
 
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I'm curious how long the virus lives on concrete and glass.

We know about paper, plastic, metal, and now there is some preliminary information about cloth. Why were sidewalks and buildings disinfected in Wuhan?
@otto In China, it is perfectly acceptable to spit in the streets. The culture considers expelling expectorant a cleansing routine....and yes, onto the streets and sidewalks. Thus the disinfecting of sidewalks. When I was a child, I recall it was a common practice in the U.S. Both men and women spat on the sidewalks. Then it became unladylike. I don't recall when it became unacceptable for men, if it indeed did.
 
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Public pools often have lanes in them so they could easily only allow use of alternate lanes and limit numbers and time in the pool. Won't help young kids who cannot swim and just want to splash about. Maybe the square idea in a small pool for non swimmers. I am sure they are working it out as we are discussing it. They already have senior hours and/or set times for school kids, early hours for serious swimmers etc. The water is already chlorinated so I don't see a big problem.

GMA had a segment on today, the new CDC guidelines on swimming in pools. Social distancing, reward vs risk with kids at a public pool, disinfecting.

"The CDC issued new guidelines for pool facilities ahead of Memorial Day weekend as many plan to reopen.@drjashton talks about how to protect your family at public pools this summer." https://gma.abc/3fMju7u

video (2:39)

Good Morning America on Twitter
 
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BBM. On your question about Irish ICU bed numbers, the answer is: it's complicated! But yes that IHME figure of 50 you found is totally wrong.
Our pre-Covid number of ICU beds was 257. This was increased in March to 285, plus additional 'surge' capacity that would allow our healthcare system to care for up to 411 critical patients, according to this article.

The IHME site explains how they derived at the number of ICU, Vents, etc. If you look at the notes section.

I understand it to mean, beds, Vents etc to deal with just Covid patients. They would have no way of actually determined the number of ICU or ventilators a state has. It does have available information on the number of hospitalizations by state.

I found to be pretty much on target for Virginia once the Virginia Hospital Association posted the number of total ICU and Ventilators AND separated daily by regular and Covid separately.

MOO...
 
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I know. Bizarre. Even signed his name. If that's even real. Friends of ours Son and Wife bought a new house just before all the pandemic restrictions and were caught up in a mortgage fraud scheme. It all got straightened out thankfully.
A friend of mine, in NC, had someone send her a (typewritten) letter like this. An individual or mortgage company, not sure which, wanted to buy all the houses in their small neighborhood bordering a golf course. Several people sold their homes to him, she and her husband didn't. I had in my mind that he prob wanted to build something commercially there later on, but don't know for sure. Anyway, no problems so far with the homes that were sold.
 
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We had a hand written letter arrive in our mailbox early today. Wanting to buy our House??? Claimed to have purchased 11 properties in our area and wanting 3 more. It was a lengthy letter. Will purchase without any kind of tour inside. It went thru the shredder and I washed my hands. Lordy!

I am getting calls from mortgage companies because of the lower interest rates to refinance, or take a home equity loan and the same phone calls as the letter you received, to buy my home, sight unseen.
My cell phone reads "scam" with each of these calls.
Good move with the shredder
 
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CIA Believes China Tried to Stop WHO Declaring Public Emergency

CIA Believes China Tried to Stop WHO Declaring Public Emergency

Tom O'Connor
8 hrs ago
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The CIA believes China tried to prevent the World Health Organization from sounding the alarm on the coronavirus outbreak in January—a time when Beijing was stockpiling medical supplies from around the world. A CIA report, the contents of which were confirmed to Newsweek by two U.S. intelligence officials, said China threatened the WHO that the country would stop cooperating with the agency's coronavirus investigation if the organization declared a global health emergency.

It was the second such report from a Western intelligence service and is likely to further inflame tensions between the United States and China over a pandemic that has killed 280,000 people worldwide—more than a quarter of them American.

The first report, a German intelligence assessment published by Der Spiegel last week, accused Chinese President Xi Jinping of personally applying pressure on WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on January 21.
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<modsnip: removed political commentary> This was not an unsafe, untested drug by the sound of it.

<modsnip: quoted post was modsnipped> I still believe there was hope that it was the "great hope". It was just painful to see that patients who depended on it could not get it.
 
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Not unsafe for those who need it, quite unsafe for people with heart issues and other issues (which is the problem). Can you cite any studies that show that HCQ by itself is effective? I do not think you can.

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No. Not exactly.

However, there is a little research that shows that people who've had recent immunizations may have more of the "alert" immune cells that help the body get on the fast track to forming antibodies. All vaccinations have risks, but it would seem that for healthy older people (under 80 but over 50), getting a vaccine just before they contract CoVid might help them fall into the mild or moderate case group. I'm not including gamma globulin vaccinations, because there's no research into that. There's even a theory that children are less symptomatic because they are still in the process of getting vaccinations - and then are spontaneously challenged/vaccinated by the average 6-10 viruses that sweep through most classrooms.

I plan to go get my measles/mumps booster first (for just this reason), when I can - it's not easy to get for an adult where I live. Then, there was some other vaccination my doctor wanted me to get, I've forgotten. I will probably do this before and during my first ventures back into the real world.
wow...very interesting. So is it hard to get the measles/mumps because of not being covered by insurance to be paid for, or is there something that says adults simply cannot have it.
 
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Not unsafe for those who need it, quite unsafe for people with heart issues and other issues (which is the problem). Can you cite any studies that show that HCQ by itself is effective? I do not think you can.

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No. Not exactly.

However, there is a little research that shows that people who've had recent immunizations may have more of the "alert" immune cells that help the body get on the fast track to forming antibodies. All vaccinations have risks, but it would seem that for healthy older people (under 80 but over 50), getting a vaccine just before they contract CoVid might help them fall into the mild or moderate case group. I'm not including gamma globulin vaccinations, because there's no research into that. There's even a theory that children are less symptomatic because they are still in the process of getting vaccinations - and then are spontaneously challenged/vaccinated by the average 6-10 viruses that sweep through most classrooms.

I plan to go get my measles/mumps booster first (for just this reason), when I can - it's not easy to get for an adult where I live. Then, there was some other vaccination my doctor wanted me to get, I've forgotten. I will probably do this before and during my first ventures back into the real world.
Also... what you mention about getting the pneumonia vaccine as it relates to already formed antibodies is interesting. So some data suggests that those vaccines do not "prevent" getting covid, but do they help build antibodies that can fight it better.
 
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Germany Sees New Coronavirus Cases Nearly Triple as Lockdown Is Eased

Germany Sees New Coronavirus Cases Nearly Triple as Lockdown Is Eased

Jason Lemon
13 hrs ago
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Germany has seen a dramatic surge in new cases of the coronavirus between Monday and Tuesday, with the number nearly tripling as the European nation has experienced an increase in its infection rate while easing lockdown restrictions.
On Monday, the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), a German federal government agency and research institute, reported just 357 new confirmed cases. One day later, the institute reported 933, a significant jump in 24 hours. However, that number is still lower than highs of more than 1,200 reported for three days last week.

"The rise of the [reproduction rate] makes it necessary to carefully observe the developments in the coming days," the RKI wrote in its daily brief included with the data. But the institute noted that it was still too soon to determine whether the virus was once again spreading rapidly. Newsweek reached out to the RKI for further comment but did not hear back before publication.
 
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