Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #56
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If they are given the go-ahead, the following eight ships will resume cruising: Carnival Dream, Carnival Freedom and Carnival Vista from Galveston; Carnival Horizon, Carnival Magic and Carnival Sensation from Miami; and Carnival Breeze and Carnival Elation from Port Canaveral.
“Please note that these select number of voyages are not guaranteed to operate as a variety of contingencies must be in place in advance of any potential sailing,” the spokesperson continued, noting that the August 1 date may be pushed back if they feel there are any risks.
All other North American Carnival cruises have been canceled through at least August 31, while the company continues to “engage experts, government officials and stakeholders on additional protocols and procedures" to keep guests and crew safe.
Currently, the CDC order is set to expire on July 24, if it is not extended.
Carnival Cruises May Set Sail as Early as August 1, While Norwegian Expects to Return ‘in 2020’
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I am really stunned at the number of people who dined in restaurants today in my area. It’s the first day they were allowed to be opened, 50% capacity, employees must wear masks.
On our NextDoor site so many people are posting about where their families dined tonight. Fast food restaurants, expensive restaurants, casual dine restaurants. Gleefully commenting on how wonderful it felt to be going out to eat again.
On our NextDoor site so many people are posting about where their families dined tonight. Fast food restaurants, expensive restaurants, casual dine restaurants. Gleefully commenting on how wonderful it felt to be going out to eat again.
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I know how you feel - but no one needs to have a beach body to go to the beach! All of us former beach bunnies get older and NO ONE CARES. And if they do, they need to stay home and self-isolate.
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Something I don't understand about contact tracing:
I understand keeping people's identity private.
But how is the contact tracing happening? Is it all based on the ill person's memory, and perhaps that of their family, as to who they saw?
I've seen multiple reports saying "recent contacts have been notified" when a positive case is confirmed, but nothing, or very rarely, about situations where specific contacts cannot be determined -- let's say, a person used a specific gas pump or ATM machine or went into a specific store. I suppose cameras could ID other pump or ATM customers, but what about places without cameras? They never say "anyone who went through the McDonald's drive-thru on Thursday morning" and yet there are claims that all contacts have been notified. So either the patient is forgetting they used the drive-thru, or the tracers just don't think fellow drive-thru'ers are considered contacts?
Am I making any sense? I mean, I keep detailed notes of where I go each day, including who I am near. And in a tiny town I know most folks. But even so there are people who pass by me in the post office or hardware store I don't know. If I were sick, the only way to inform those people would be to make a public notice of appeal to everyone who was at X place at Y time. But I don't see that happening.
I understand keeping people's identity private.
But how is the contact tracing happening? Is it all based on the ill person's memory, and perhaps that of their family, as to who they saw?
I've seen multiple reports saying "recent contacts have been notified" when a positive case is confirmed, but nothing, or very rarely, about situations where specific contacts cannot be determined -- let's say, a person used a specific gas pump or ATM machine or went into a specific store. I suppose cameras could ID other pump or ATM customers, but what about places without cameras? They never say "anyone who went through the McDonald's drive-thru on Thursday morning" and yet there are claims that all contacts have been notified. So either the patient is forgetting they used the drive-thru, or the tracers just don't think fellow drive-thru'ers are considered contacts?
Am I making any sense? I mean, I keep detailed notes of where I go each day, including who I am near. And in a tiny town I know most folks. But even so there are people who pass by me in the post office or hardware store I don't know. If I were sick, the only way to inform those people would be to make a public notice of appeal to everyone who was at X place at Y time. But I don't see that happening.
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I have to admit that I am looking forward to it. Our part of NY is ready for the next phase starting May 15, and though that doesn't include restaurants, I'm feeling cautiously exuberant (?
). I know it's really just Pollyanna-ism - our national, state, and local economy is in big trouble, any way you slice it. I just want to feel normal and believe that by going to dinner, it won't be, and that I'm doing my part to help. But it's a band-aid, for sure.
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HOOOOOORAY !!!!!!!....moo
Awesome! So happy for you.
Opinion - They all just may be "virused out" or out "partying down" and "running the streets.".....moo
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Were you hoping for the negative? I'd like to take one and love it if I receive a positive result, since that would mean I got through the infection alright.
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Wouldn’t that be bad news? Don’t you want a positive so you likely have immunity for the foreseeable future. I didn’t see your story so sorry if I misinterpreted.
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Either they're going to be able to all say "See.....everybody was overreacting, and we can do this now." Or, many will get sick from the virus, and deal with the consequences.
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LASD believes inmates tried to contract COVID-19 at Castaic jail
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department suspects inmates at the North County Correctional Facility in Castaic tried to get infected with the coronavirus under the false belief that an outbreak will force the agency to make additional cuts on the jail population.
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The Sheriff’s Department showed video from the module, a common area that held about 50 inmates, at the news conference.
The footage showed inmates huddling close together. Villanueva explained they were drinking from the same cup of hot water, trying to elevate their temperatures while increasing their chances of contracting COVID-19. They were also passing around a mask to sniff, Villanueva said.
When asked about the cases linked to the incident, Villanueva said, “We had zero positives up until that spike, but that now, also, that has impacted our staffing as well.”
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The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department suspects inmates at the North County Correctional Facility in Castaic tried to get infected with the coronavirus under the false belief that an outbreak will force the agency to make additional cuts on the jail population.
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The Sheriff’s Department showed video from the module, a common area that held about 50 inmates, at the news conference.
The footage showed inmates huddling close together. Villanueva explained they were drinking from the same cup of hot water, trying to elevate their temperatures while increasing their chances of contracting COVID-19. They were also passing around a mask to sniff, Villanueva said.
When asked about the cases linked to the incident, Villanueva said, “We had zero positives up until that spike, but that now, also, that has impacted our staffing as well.”
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Thank you for saying this so nicely. I too was puzzled, as I'd like nothing better than to be positive for Antibodies - my whole life would change.
My daughter and husband were very very sick in the third week of January. So far, they can't get antibody tests unless they pay $135, which we are currently trying to arrange. If she's positive, then so is he, as they laid in bed, deathly ill, together for 10 days in January. It would be great if they are immune. I'd be dancing around the house.
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"Virused out" describes me perfectly. Been watching a lot of movies lately. Today I watched Air Force One and Guess who's coming to dinner. I have never been a couch potato until now.
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