Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #56

[tresir2012]

Rhode Island
Rhode Island restaurants to offer outdoor dining, but with screenings

Gov. Gina Raimondo announced Monday that the state will allow restaurants to offer limited outdoor dining starting May 18.

The state's strict new guidelines call for dining by reservation only and no more than five people per dining party.

Restaurants will also be limited to 20 outdoor tables spaced at least eight feet apart or separated by barriers, said Raimondo, a Democrat.

They’ll also be required to screen customers for the virus and take down their contact information for the state’s contact tracing efforts

more at link

Ha ha, no contact tracing, no eating in.

 

[weepingangel]

Oops. Not smart. Can’t really trust coworkers not to; at minimum gossip about your secrets OR just straight out throw you under the bus (during a pandemic situation or otherwise really)

Employers opening up will probably have to determine how to deal with the below situation:

An employee chooses to stay on furlough due to "safety concerns". That employee stupidly texts a "back to work" coworker: I'm liking all this extra unemployment, how long do you think I can keep getting this?

Receiver of stupid text forwards it to boss.

 

[tresir2012]

UK furlough scheme extended till October. Employees can also be part furlough and part time employed as needed. So previous full timers could go back as part timers till economy picks up.

See link below.

UK furlough scheme extended by four months

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Children with sickness and diarrhea who also have a fever or history of exposure to coronavirus should be suspected of having COVID-19, concluded the authors of the study. The findings were published May 12 in the journal Frontiers in Pediatrics.

"These children were seeking medical advice in the emergency department for unrelated problems, for example, one had a kidney stone, another a head trauma. All had pneumonia confirmed by chest CT scan before or soon after admission and then confirmed to have COVID-19," said study author Dr. Wenbin Li, from the Department of Pediatrics at Tongji Hospital in Wuhan, China.

"While their initial symptoms may have been unrelated, or their COVID-19 symptoms were initially mild or relatively hidden before their admission to hospital, importantly, four of the five cases had digestive tract symptoms as the first manifestation of this disease," he said in a journal news release.

"Most children are only mildly affected by COVID-19 and the few severe cases often have underlying health issues. It is easy to miss its diagnosis in the early stage, when a child has nonrespiratory symptoms or suffers from another illness," he said.

"Based on our experience of dealing with COVID-19, in regions where this virus is epidemic, children suffebring from digestive tract symptoms, especially with fever and/or a history of exposure to this disease, should be suspected of being infected with this virus," Li said.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...h-ills-may-signal-covid-19-in-kids-study-says

Source: Clinical Characteristics of 5 COVID-19 Cases With Non-respiratory Symptoms as the First Manifestation in Children

 

[CSIDreamer]

Oops. Not smart. Can’t really trust coworkers not to; at minimum gossip about your secrets OR just straight out throw you under the bus (during a pandemic situation or otherwise really)

In this situation, I'm glad she got thrown under the bus. We have a ton of people opting to stay on furlough due to "safety concerns" or picking and choosing what accounts they will cover. The rest of us are running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to keep service to our accounts up to date. If it's legit, that's one thing. But staying on furlough because the government gives you a big bonus? Not so cool. Jmo

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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[tresir2012]

Sweden is at a 100,000 "US equivalent deaths." The only reason their numbers look good to us is because their population is only 10 millions.

Well they are doing better than Belgium and New York (plus 7 other states)and most of Europe.(UK, France, Spain and Italy).

 

[weepingangel]

I have to plow though our state.gov site looking for employment info that I didn’t pay close attention to earlier in all this. Wish me luck lol.

Hopefully they’ll have time and resources to keep on top of UI fraud, and other potential financial fraud type stuff By both individuals and businesses. Maybe they could hire people as investigators/researching case working type of thing
Creating jobs. Why not.

Home Depot is hiring probably Walmart as well. there’s work out there for able bodied youngsters. Cleaning companies,healthcare , retail. Cv tracers. I think people (who can afford it) will be hiring private childcare vs using a center. (Massachusetts)

 

[Trino]

I have to plow though our state.gov site looking for employment info that I didn’t pay close attention to earlier in all this. Wish me luck lol.
Private child care is highly regulated in my state.

 

[Trino]

Elon Musk opens Tesla California facility, defying local orders on coronavirus spread - CNN

California Virus News....moo

Tesla and Elon Musk receive warm welcome from Texas Governor, Judge and Mayor

California and Texas Virus News.....moo

File all the illegal openings under, "I really don't care."

 

[weepingangel]

Yep. Don’t piss off a working essential Its been a long ten years. Oh wait.
Right.Under.Bus
FWIW dont have a bit of issue with those that deserve it ,getting it AT all

In this situation, I'm glad she got thrown under the bus. We have a ton of people opting to stay on furlough due to "safety concerns" or picking and choosing what accounts they will cover. The rest of us are running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to keep service to our accounts up to date. If it's legit, that's one thing. But staying on furlough because the government gives you a big bonus? Not so cool. Jmo

 

[ilovewings]

More than HALF of COVID-19 patients caught the virus from someone before they showed symptoms | Daily Mail Online

This article describes that more than half of people who contracted the virus, got it from someone who was ASYMPTOMATIC-----

that is kind of scary to me!!!!

 

[tresir2012]

More than HALF of COVID-19 patients caught the virus from someone before they showed symptoms | Daily Mail Online

This article describes that more than half of people who contracted the virus, got it from someone who was ASYMPTOMATIC-----

that is kind of scary to me!!!!

So how does it spread if they are not coughing? Just by breathing and or not washing hands?

This one is a bit contradictory.

6. Wash your clothes regularly

Britons should wash their clothes regularly, according to the guidance, because studies have shown the virus can survive on fabrics for several days - but often dies after a few hours.

?????

So you can catch it doing someone else's laundry.

 

[mickey2942]

The one issue that is really annoying my daughter, who is 28, working full time, is that people who have kids get UI. Because there is no school or daycare.

I tell her that working 60 hours a week, is heaven compared to being home with kids who can't go anywhere. And you have to be a "home school" teacher. She happily agreed with this.

 

[cody22]

Newsom joins 4 governors in seeking $1 trillion in federal relief for all states

National Virus Bail-Out News....moo

Coronavirus: California rodeo attracts thousands despite social distancing orders

Shasta County, California Rodeo Virus News...moo

WHO Says It Cannot Invite Taiwan to Annual Summit after China Says Participation Would ‘Severely Violate the One-China Principle’

WHO Virus News...moo

 

[ilovewings]

So how does it spread if they are not coughing? Just by breathing and or not washing hands?

This one is a bit contradictory.

6. Wash your clothes regularly

Britons should wash their clothes regularly, according to the guidance, because studies have shown the virus can survive on fabrics for several days - but often dies after a few hours.

?????

First of all, let me say that i believe what makes this virus so evil is its ability to transmit disease to others while the person transmitting the disease has no symptoms: with the flu and colds people exhibit symptoms: they know they have it, and others know they have it. This virus is much much nastier than any other for that reason. I suppose if a person does not know they have the disease, and others around them don't know that person has it, they may be in close proximity- getting breathed on- or the asymptomatic contagious person touches a surface, the other person touches that surface and then touches their face, eyes, nose or mouth: perhaps the other person even shares food with an asymptomatic person-- i imagine if you spend a lot of time with a person who is an asymptomatic carrier, you certainly have an increased chance to get the virus.

That is why i think all people should get tested, whether they have symptoms or not.

As far as washing my clothes, I don't believe clothes are a major conduit for transmission-- I am not going to be throwing my clothes in the washer---just like i don't believe surfaces like cardboard are a major conduit for transmission though i do take some precautions in that regard without going overboard.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

What can we learn from Sweden's Covid-19 ICU figures?
(Ireland)
It can be very tricky to compare the Covid-19 experiences of different countries. Populations are not evenly distributed in terms of age, location, ethnicity, social class, or culture. Different groups and regions are not equally susceptible to the virus.

Then there is the fact that countries measure the impact of the coronavirus differently. For instance, Ireland is one of only a very small number of European countries that includes both nursing homes and suspected or probable Covid-19 cases in official numbers.

This doesn't stop people making international comparisons though. With so many people straining at the leash to break out of lockdown, many point to the different experience in Sweden with no lockdown. It raises questions about whether Ireland’s social, travel, and work restrictions needed to be so tough here after all.

For anyone who asks that question of Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan, he has a very sharp and succinct answer: "Have you seen the intensive care admissions figures for Sweden?"

Well actually, no, not really. We haven’t seen those figures. Sweden’s ICU caseload is hardly headline news here. Perhaps it should be. Because there is something important that Sweden’s critical care experience can tell us. It is this: there never was any realistic alternative strategy that Ireland could have pursued.

Our healthcare system simply could not have coped with the more relaxed approach taken by Sweden. This graph showing the number of people treated in intensive care in Ireland and in Sweden shows why.

There are two striking observations about the graph. The first is that the underlying level of Covid-19 disease in Sweden, as evidenced by the numbers in intensive care, is running very significantly above the levels of disease in Ireland and has been doing so since the start.

In fact, the level of disease in Sweden is three times higher than in Ireland if the ICU occupancy rates are any guide. If anything, the gap between both countries appears to be widening, as Ireland continues to strangle the spread of the virus by retaining the lockdown while Sweden pursues its more relaxed approach.

The second striking observation is that while the number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in intensive care in Ireland was down to 72 by 10 May, on a like-for-like basis the number for Sweden was 233. That is more than three times the level of disease in Ireland.

This is a huge gap. It suggests that if Ireland had followed the Swedish more relaxed approach to social distancing, we would have required at least another 161 beds in intensive care for confirmed Covid-19 patients alone.

Add to that the additional beds required for three times as many "presumed or suspected" Covid-19 cases - which have always been a significant and constant feature in intensive care. The number of extra beds required for Covid-19 patients would then be above 200 by now.

We just do not have that capacity in intensive care. Notwithstanding the issue about where in the country those vacant beds might have been required, by 10 May we could accommodate, at a push, about 150 additional patients in fully-staffed ICU beds nationwide.

Before this crisis began, Ireland only had about 225 intensive care beds nationally. By 10 May, including non-Covid-19 patients, there were 257 people receiving critical care in Irish hospitals. That means even with the lockdown, if the HSE had not scrambled to expand critical care capacity, hospitals in Ireland would have been in serious trouble by now with medics having to make torturous decisions about who to allow into critical care units and who to turn away.

Our health system could not have coped. Fortunately, that did not happen because of the extra critical care capacity that was put in place.

But what if our National Public Health Emergency Team had advised the Government to follow the Swedes? What if the level of Covid-19 illness was more than three times as high in Ireland as it is now? Because that is precisely what the Swedish intensive care numbers tell us would have happened.

It would have been a disaster. It would have put Ireland right up there with Italy and Spain, in terms of the horrific scenes and experiences that we would have had to endure and witness. The European Centre for Disease Control highlighted that Ireland started into the crisis with the lowest number of intensive care beds per capita in Europe.

Our healthcare system was simply never strong enough to endure the journey that the Swedes embarked on. It just could not have coped and it is hard to imagine how Irish society would have coped.

[More at link]

What can we learn from Sweden's Covid-19 ICU figures?

 

[weepingangel]

June 29 reopening for daycare centers limits options for parents, straining providers


As Massachusetts officials work to devise a plan to at least partially reopen sectors of the economy, there are some businesses still charging customers during Gov. Charlie Baker’s mandated closure; namely, daycares.

Yet many providers are having to cope with added uncertainty: as it stands now, childcare companies will have wait until at least June 29 to resume operations — a time when many parents may be back to work and in need of childcare options.

But many providers, particularly those that are privately owned, don’t have the luxury to bear the financial shortfalls until reopening and have been charging parents and families during the outbreak. Unlike publicly funded schools, the cost to private daycares has been acutely felt, and many owners have felt the move necessary.

The situation has prompted more than 85 complaints filed with Attorney General Maura Healey, her office says.

Childcare costs in Massachusetts are not cheap. In Greater Boston, the average family annually pays just over $35,000 for at-home care and $14,960 for center-based care, according to 2018 data from Care.com. Central Massachusetts families near Worcester pay just over $30,000 on average for at-home care and $12,146 for center-based care, and Springfield families pay about $30,000 annually for in-home care and just under a thousand dollars a month for center-based care.

More at link

 

[The Night Watchman]

What can we learn from Sweden's Covid-19 ICU figures?
(Ireland)
It can be very tricky to compare the Covid-19 experiences of different countries. Populations are not evenly distributed in terms of age, location, ethnicity, social class, or culture. Different groups and regions are not equally susceptible to the virus.

Then there is the fact that countries measure the impact of the coronavirus differently. For instance, Ireland is one of only a very small number of European countries that includes both nursing homes and suspected or probable Covid-19 cases in official numbers.

This doesn't stop people making international comparisons though. With so many people straining at the leash to break out of lockdown, many point to the different experience in Sweden with no lockdown. It raises questions about whether Ireland’s social, travel, and work restrictions needed to be so tough here after all.

For anyone who asks that question of Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan, he has a very sharp and succinct answer: "Have you seen the intensive care admissions figures for Sweden?"

Well actually, no, not really. We haven’t seen those figures. Sweden’s ICU caseload is hardly headline news here. Perhaps it should be. Because there is something important that Sweden’s critical care experience can tell us. It is this: there never was any realistic alternative strategy that Ireland could have pursued.

Our healthcare system simply could not have coped with the more relaxed approach taken by Sweden. This graph showing the number of people treated in intensive care in Ireland and in Sweden shows why.

There are two striking observations about the graph. The first is that the underlying level of Covid-19 disease in Sweden, as evidenced by the numbers in intensive care, is running very significantly above the levels of disease in Ireland and has been doing so since the start.

In fact, the level of disease in Sweden is three times higher than in Ireland if the ICU occupancy rates are any guide. If anything, the gap between both countries appears to be widening, as Ireland continues to strangle the spread of the virus by retaining the lockdown while Sweden pursues its more relaxed approach.

The second striking observation is that while the number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in intensive care in Ireland was down to 72 by 10 May, on a like-for-like basis the number for Sweden was 233. That is more than three times the level of disease in Ireland.

This is a huge gap. It suggests that if Ireland had followed the Swedish more relaxed approach to social distancing, we would have required at least another 161 beds in intensive care for confirmed Covid-19 patients alone.

Add to that the additional beds required for three times as many "presumed or suspected" Covid-19 cases - which have always been a significant and constant feature in intensive care. The number of extra beds required for Covid-19 patients would then be above 200 by now.

We just do not have that capacity in intensive care. Notwithstanding the issue about where in the country those vacant beds might have been required, by 10 May we could accommodate, at a push, about 150 additional patients in fully-staffed ICU beds nationwide.

Before this crisis began, Ireland only had about 225 intensive care beds nationally. By 10 May, including non-Covid-19 patients, there were 257 people receiving critical care in Irish hospitals. That means even with the lockdown, if the HSE had not scrambled to expand critical care capacity, hospitals in Ireland would have been in serious trouble by now with medics having to make torturous decisions about who to allow into critical care units and who to turn away.

Our health system could not have coped. Fortunately, that did not happen because of the extra critical care capacity that was put in place.

But what if our National Public Health Emergency Team had advised the Government to follow the Swedes? What if the level of Covid-19 illness was more than three times as high in Ireland as it is now? Because that is precisely what the Swedish intensive care numbers tell us would have happened.

It would have been a disaster. It would have put Ireland right up there with Italy and Spain, in terms of the horrific scenes and experiences that we would have had to endure and witness. The European Centre for Disease Control highlighted that Ireland started into the crisis with the lowest number of intensive care beds per capita in Europe.

Our healthcare system was simply never strong enough to endure the journey that the Swedes embarked on. It just could not have coped and it is hard to imagine how Irish society would have coped.

[More at link]

What can we learn from Sweden's Covid-19 ICU figures?

Convincing analysis. The other thing is it is not just total numbers of beds in Ireland, but where are they? Can a patient get transferred to ICU before they succumb to the virus.

But then there is the other thing...why are Sweden's ICU numbers tailing down? I would really like to know. They are nowhere near herd immunity. From what we are told this number should just keep climbing up and the infections multiply non-linearly. For all the advice epidemiologists hand out, there are some things that they just have little to say about.

 

[cody22]

Are masks the next front in the coronavirus culture war?

National Mask Virus News....moo