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Indians walk away from family pets amid rumours dogs can spread coronavirus
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Indians walk away from family pets amid rumours dogs can spread coronavirus

By South Asia correspondent James Oaten and Som Patidar in New Delhi
3 hrs ago
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On a warm evening in Delhi's southern suburbs, a white van driving along the near-empty streets is causing a commotion.

The vehicle has attracted a small pack of street dogs, which are bounding beside the vehicle, barking and wagging their tails frantically.

It pulls over, and animal feeder Sonya Ghosh and two other volunteers get to work, serving large piles of chicken, dried dog food and rice into bowls for the hungry animals.

Within minutes the dogs have had their fill and the team drives off to the next location to repeat the process again and again.

"People call me a dog mother," Ms Ghosh says, laughing.

"They also call me Kutte Wali Aunty, which means aunty to all the dogs."
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A high number of pets have also been abandoned in recent weeks over fears the animals could spread coronavirus.

"We are working approximately double the time because of the number of dogs that have come out on the road," Ms Ghosh says.
 
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Train union threatens strike as Londoners pack tubes and buses after coronavirus lockdown loosens

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Train union threatens strike as Londoners pack tubes and buses after coronavirus lockdown loosens

By Jack Hawke in London, wires
2 hrs ago
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Rail unions in England have threatened to stop train services in order to protect workers and passengers after commuters crammed into public transport across London on the first day of eased coronavirus measures.
On the day the UK's coronavirus death toll topped 33,000 people, those unable to work from home were urged to return to work but avoid public transport where possible in an effort to boost the country's stagnant economy.
 
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Mexico sees 353 deaths in most lethal coronavirus day: health ministry

Mexico sees 353 deaths in most lethal coronavirus day: health ministry

21 hrs ago
Mexico's health ministry confirmed 1,997 new cases of coronavirus infections today, along with 353 additional deaths, the most deadly day since the pandemic began.

The new infections brought confirmed coronavirus cases to 38,324 and 3,926 deaths in total, according to the official tally.
 
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Train union threatens strike as Londoners pack tubes and buses after coronavirus lockdown loosens

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Train union threatens strike as Londoners pack tubes and buses after coronavirus lockdown loosens

By Jack Hawke in London, wires
2 hrs ago
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Rail unions in England have threatened to stop train services in order to protect workers and passengers after commuters crammed into public transport across London on the first day of eased coronavirus measures.
On the day the UK's coronavirus death toll topped 33,000 people, those unable to work from home were urged to return to work but avoid public transport where possible in an effort to boost the country's stagnant economy.
What the heck?!? Where was everyone going?
 
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What the heck?!? Where was everyone going?
Back to work :(. New guidelines are if you cannot work from home and the business can now open, return to work.

Guidelines are avoid public transport, walk or cycle... in London that's going to be v hard. You wouldn't drive within London and not many will afford to live near enough to cycle. Or walk!

Its not good tbh.
 
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What's being applied, as the death toll mounts, what we are seeing and hearing via the many forms of media, what now is being, and will be, peddled, is a virulent strain of that old Soviet notion that “a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic,” as Joseph Stalin said.

Forget no one, remember them all. Speak truth to power.
 
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Germany Sees New Coronavirus Cases Nearly Triple as Lockdown Is Eased

Germany Sees New Coronavirus Cases Nearly Triple as Lockdown Is Eased

Jason Lemon
13 hrs ago
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Germany has seen a dramatic surge in new cases of the coronavirus between Monday and Tuesday, with the number nearly tripling as the European nation has experienced an increase in its infection rate while easing lockdown restrictions.
On Monday, the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), a German federal government agency and research institute, reported just 357 new confirmed cases. One day later, the institute reported 933, a significant jump in 24 hours. However, that number is still lower than highs of more than 1,200 reported for three days last week.

"The rise of the [reproduction rate] makes it necessary to carefully observe the developments in the coming days," the RKI wrote in its daily brief included with the data. But the institute noted that it was still too soon to determine whether the virus was once again spreading rapidly. Newsweek reached out to the RKI for further comment but did not hear back before publication.

The number of cases and deaths in Germany drops every Monday and goes back up on Tuesday. Every week. Same as most countries who underreport at weekends including the UK.

Germany Coronavirus: 174,098 Cases and 7,859 Deaths - Worldometer
 
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I am really surprised at the numbers who died from Swine Flu. H1N1. Anyone recall that?

2009 H1N1 Pandemic

From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

Disease Burden of the H1N1pdm09 Flu Virus, 2009-2018
Since the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, the (H1N1)pdm09 flu virus has circulated seasonally in the U.S. causing significant illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths.

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Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age. This differs greatly from typical seasonal influenza epidemics, during which about 70 percent to 90 percent of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years and older.

Yes, in February 2009 I got H1N1, had a very high fever and started having difficulty breathing, and I was hospitalized briefly with pneumonia. I was 11 years younger, but I got very sick.
 
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Just curious...there a a number of parents here...with a couple of universities opening in the fall, how would you feel about sending your child off to college during these covid times?
 
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Yes, in February 2009 I got H1N1, had a very high fever and started having difficulty breathing, and I was hospitalized briefly with pneumonia. I was 11 years younger, but I got very sick.
I just was not aware of it. I vaguely remember SARS but that is all.
 
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I don’t have a problem with not going to a pool. It’s going to be difficult to tell 3 of the grands they can sit on their back porch and watch the other kids splash in it and they can’t go. I anticipate the melt downs to increase.
Can the coronavirus disease spread through swimming pools?
There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...There is no evidence that,virus in the water.
Water and COVID-19 FAQs

So maybe grandkids could go ins pool when there aren't other kids there?
 
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Wouldn't that be mid August instead of July if it's an additional 3 months? Jmo
Oh yah, thank you. That's even worse.

I live in Los Angeles County, although a far away suburb. I cannot imagine having a total lockdown for everyone through August. My hubby and I obviously, will stay home for many months. if not years.

But I do think the phased reopening of the colleges and schools and businesses can safely begin.
 
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Can the coronavirus disease spread through swimming pools?
There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water.
Water and COVID-19 FAQs

So maybe grandkids could go ins pool when there aren't other kids there?

So it can’t be spread by touching the gate to get in, punching the code, using handrails to get into the pool, the bathrooms or other common areas?
And all of those areas will be cleaned after each group?

I’m just thinking if it’s not safe in a grocery store for children, what is different about a swimming pool everyone has been in previously that day? IDK
Lots to think about.
Heck I cringe when I see kids spit out water in the swimming pool.
 
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Just curious...there a a number of parents here...with a couple of universities opening in the fall, how would you feel about sending your child off to college during these covid times?

Mine is sort of a "Catch-22". My daughter is almost done, but 2 classes with labs. More than 1/2 the semester was over, but they gave her an Incomplete. She has to do the labs. She won't have to pay tuition, but I will have to pay housing. Seriously annoyed.

Shrug. She will be fine. I am not worried about her getting COVID19, if it happens, it happens. She is young, healthy, I am not worried. She has been working full time since this started.

I was going to do an online program paid for by my employer. That money is gone. So, I think universities are going to be hurting.
 
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So it can’t be spread by touching the gate to get in, punching the code, using handrails to get into the pool, the bathrooms or other common areas?
And all of those areas will be cleaned after each group?

I’m just thinking if it’s not safe in a grocery store for children, what is different about a swimming pool everyone has been in previously that day? IDK
Lots to think about.
Heck I cringe when I see kids spit out water in the swimming pool.

Possibly it could be spread that way. I suppose a parent could wear gloves and open the gate. And they could sanitize the hand rail the same way we sanitize the shopping cart.

But I think the sunlight and the chemicals in the pool would clear most of the virus from the hand rail and the common areas. the bathroom would be an issue and I would avoid those areas.

Most kids can go at home before going to the pool though.
 
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Mine is sort of a "Catch-22". My daughter is almost done, but 2 classes with labs. More than 1/2 the semester was over, but they gave her an Incomplete. She has to do the labs. She won't have to pay tuition, but I will have to pay housing. Seriously annoyed.

Shrug. She will be fine. I am not worried about her getting COVID19, if it happens, it happens. She is young, healthy, I am not worried. She has been working full time since this started.

I was going to do an online program paid for by my employer. That money is gone. So, I think universities are going to be hurting.

Same boat here, not worried. That age will be hard to avoid infection over the next six months, assuming she didn't already have it.
 
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Just curious...there a a number of parents here...with a couple of universities opening in the fall, how would you feel about sending your child off to college during these covid times?

My daughter is scheduled to be a freshman at a state university this fall. We have already discussed that we may hold off her entering until spring. We will continue to monitor how our state (Wisconsin) fares over the next few months
 
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