Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #59

[Cool Cats]

But, you don't know who is actually infected, until they all are ..that is why the virus runs like wildfire in LTC.

In order to minimize the impact, you would need to use standard precautions with every single patient. For example, bath day in LTC, runs like an assembly line, one aid gets all of the patients in bath chairs, one CNA does the showers for all patients, two CNA get patients dressed. It takes two to three hours. From breakfast to lunch. Moving every single minute.

The CNA'S are not changing out for every patient. The goal is just to get it done.

If they were to minimize spread in LTC, one patient at a time. Then, change all PPE, next patient, sterilize bath area, change PPE, next patient. X 20. There is no way baths would get done, with all of the other work that needs to get done. Unless they hired 10 more CNA's. Never happen.

This can't help:

MAY 20, 2020 — 11:45AM
Minnesota nursing homes, already the site of 81% of COVID-19 deaths, continue taking in infected patients

(L) Jeff Johnson, (inside) Michael Johnson, (R) Kathy Johnson

Jeff Johnson of Maple Grove said his 71-year-old father has been a patient at North Ridge since he suffered severe injuries in a car crash in March. He was surprised when a staff member at the facility informed him that COVID-19 patients were being admitted to the facility from area hospitals. While his father remains symptom-free, Johnson said he is concerned that staff might carry the virus from the newly admitted patients.

“I was absolutely shocked that [North Ridge] would risk exposing workers and everyone else in a facility without asking for our input,” said Johnson, a gymnastics instructor. “It seemed that we should have had some say in the matter.”

 

[anneg]

I quit taking it two days ago because I just can't cope with my hair falling out at this time. And I'm wondering if it's causing some weird muscle issues for me. Two weeks ought to be tolerable for most of these people, though.

How long did you take it? Was it as a COVID preventive? Perhaps I missed a post that explained this.

My hair seems to be falling out more than usual lately, but I have made no changes in medication. Probably just aging...

Reading about the COVID-19 PEP study made me think that it probably was a factor in Trump taking hydroxychloroquine for two weeks. It sounds like he would have qualified to be in the study.

 

[mickey2942]

Exactly. Because almost all LTC facilities are also listed as "Rehabilitation Centers", to qualify for the 90 day Medicare benefit amount for Rehabilitation, which is significantly higher rate than LTC.

What consumers don't know is that they really should only go to CARF Accredited Rehabilitation centers. They will have significantly more rights in regards to information. That being said, everything is "protected" information.

COVID19 is one new thing, what I have been working on for years is the "right to know" about other residents who have criminal history, including rape, or assault. What people don't know about long term care is scary.

 

[10ofRods]

Greece clarifies policy, to allow tourists from all nations

Greek officials said Saturday that the country will not limit arriving airline passengers next month to people coming from 29 countries but that travelers who departed from places that aren't on the initial list will be subject to mandatory testing for the coronavirus upon arrival and a quarantine period of one or two weeks.

The two-tiered policy, which revised information the Greek government issued Friday, will be applied during June 15-30, although officials left open the possibility of maintaining entry restrictions after the end of June.

High-ranking tourism ministry officials said the government needed to clarify the purpose of the 29-country list during the coronavirus pandemic, pointing to a statement posted on the Foreign Ministry's website. The officials spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the issue was politically sensitive.

According to the officials and the foreign ministry document, a limited number of international flights will continue only being allowed to land at Athens International Airport until June 15. Per European Union policy, every arriving passenger must be tested for the virus and stay overnight at a designated hotel.

Visitors who test negative are required to self-quarantine for 7 days, while the ones who test positive must spend 14 days under a supervised quarantine.

Greece is taking steps to welcome more visitors in time for the summer vacation season. Starting June 15, international flights also can land in Thessaloniki, the country's second-largest city. Those from the 29 designated countries, the majority of them in Europe, will be subject to random tests.

Passengers from all other countries will have to continue getting tested, staying overnight at specific hotels, and quarantining for either seven or 14 days.

The 29 countries announced Friday are: Albania, Australia, Austria, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Germany, Denmark, Switzerland, Estonia, Japan, Israel, China, Croatia, Cyprus, Latvia, Lebanon, New Zealand, Lithuania, Malta, Montenegro, Norway, South Korea, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Czech Republic and Finland.

[More at link]

Greece clarifies policy, to allow tourists from all nations | Kathimerini

Thank you for this! The idea of spending 7 days of one's vacation locked into a quarantine hotel (if one is not from the 29 nations) is still going to have a strong dampening effect on tourism. It sounds as if, in theory, even people from the US could go to Greece (if we were willing to quarantine for a week). There are hotels in Athens that I wouldn't mind spending a week in, but it would use up most of our available travel time.

I'm glad they clarified. I wonder if other nations will take the same approach.

 

[mickey2942]

Right now, so many countries are making a 14 day mandatory quarantine when people come from the United States. In a government quarantine area. This is serious stuff.

Which makes me think that Las Vegas opening up the casinos this week is insanity. They won't be getting any international tourists. And with the riots on the strip, aside from the COVID19 risk, I don't see how these hotels are going to be making any money.

 

[Cool Cats]

Exactly. Because almost all LTC facilities are also listed as "Rehabilitation Centers", to qualify for the 90 day Medicare benefit amount for Rehabilitation, which is significantly higher rate than LTC.

What consumers don't know is that they really should only go to CARF Accredited Rehabilitation centers. They will have significantly more rights in regards to information. That being said, everything is "protected" information.

COVID19 is one new thing, what I have been working on for years is the "right to know" about other residents who have criminal history, including rape, or assault. What people don't know about long term care is scary.

The people finder sites say they list criminal records.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

How long did you take it? Was it as a COVID preventive? Perhaps I missed a post that explained this.

My hair seems to be falling out more than usual lately, but I have made no changes in medication. Probably just aging...

Reading about the COVID-19 PEP study made me think that it probably was a factor in Trump taking hydroxychloroquine for two weeks. It sounds like he would have qualified to be in the study.

I took it for years for an autoimmune disease, was off it for several months, then went back to it 2 or 3 weeks ago.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I quit taking it two days ago because I just can't cope with my hair falling out at this time. And I'm wondering if it's causing some weird muscle issues for me. Two weeks ought to be tolerable for most of these people, though.

The stress of 2020 probably isn't helping. My hair falls out twice as quick when I'm stressed. I'm surprised I'm not bald right now. Jmo

 

[I'm Just Here]

Got some lysol spray on amazon prime. My house smells like lysol again!

I bring my Lysol with me on trips like my security and my husband just laughs because he knows I won't go in any public places without it. We both bring extra shoes and I spray the public ones, lol!

 

[PommyMommy]

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1267655797531705346
CNN: 1.8 million people in the United States have tested positive for coronavirus.
8:14 PM · Jun 1, 2020

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1267804857924308992
CNN: The World Health Organization says that 133 potential coronavirus vaccines are in development worldwide.
6:06 AM · Jun 2, 2020

 

[tresir2012]

Vaccination - BBC News

Some vaccine news.

In the past week volunteers in Bristol have been taking part in a trial for a coronavirus vaccine.

It's been led by researchers at North Bristol NHS Trust, University Hospitals Bristol and Weston NHS Foundation Trust and the University of Bristol.

And now, from today, NHS staff in Bristol will also be taking part.

Professor Adam Finn is helping to lead the research.

He said: "What we need to do is first of all find people who have not had the infection so they all have a blood test first to make sure they don't have antibodies as a small minority do have antibodies and shouldn't be involved.

"We've also tried to select people who are slightly more likely to get the infection because we need infections to occur in the study in order to be able to see a difference between the vaccine and the control.

"We don't ask them to change what they do in any way and clearly we can't increase their risk of getting the infection."

 

[I'm Just Here]

I thought about the vaccine volunteers and am thankful for the Covid19 trials but I am not sure I would sign up for that. Probably won't get a vaccine if there is a public one in the next few months either. There are too many unkowns and mutations with the virus that my opinion is it needs more understanding. My mind wants to be the first in line for a shot but yet my thoughts get doubtful with fear of it too soon, how are your thoughts?

 

[24Roses]

Iowa numbers today: Iowa COVID-19 Information Total of 19,956 confirmed cases and 560 passed away with 11,604 recovered. For some reason all the local news stations update the numbers before the official 24 hr. state count so their news articles are almost always different numbers. IMO-the increase is 268 new confirmed cases and 22 more have passed away. IMO-according to the graphs on here Iowa COVID-19 Information, this is not 24 hr. deaths but over a period of several days with some very late reports.
Here is a news report with a difference of confirmed cases of 4 and 2 less who have passed away. 264 more confirmed cases and 20 more COVID-19 deaths reported

 

[mickey2942]

I thought about the vaccine volunteers and am thankful for the Covid19 trials but I am not sure I would sign up for that. Probably won't get a vaccine if there is a public one in the next few months either. There are too many unkowns and mutations with the virus that my opinion is it needs more understanding. My mind wants to be the first in line for a shot but yet my thoughts get doubtful with fear of it too soon, how are your thoughts?

I read that the soonest they could even think about having a vaccine, and this was extremely optimistic, was Fall, 2021.

Other, more pessimistic reports, state that it took 30 odd years or more to develop vaccines for many of the current viruses. And that because of the nature of the Coronavirus, COVID19 being different from other Coronavirus, like SARS, that it could be decades before a vaccine is produced.

The literature is all of the map. I won't bother to cite sources. Even peer reviewed studies and articles conflict each other. Who knows what to think any longer.

 

[Tadpole12]

There was one lonely plastic canister of walmart brand wipes on the shelf today. It was smashed and the lid was off and it was over five dollars but I picked up the lid, rolled the sides of the canister back out, put the lid on and bought it anyway.

Right on 155etta!
You made me smile, with your practicality.

 

[jjenny]

"New research published in Lancet supports what public health officials have been advising since the pandemic began: To reduce the risk of transmitting COVID-19, cover your face and stay 3 to 6 feet away from other people."

Physical distancing, masks can dramatically reduce COVID-19 transmission: Study

 

[ilovewings]

Coronavirus is a blood vessel disease, study suggests | Daily Mail Online

study shows Covid is a disease of the respiratory tract and blood vessels

 

[Tadpole12]

Coronavirus outbreak traced to German hookah bar | DW | 01.06.2020

 

[Chelly]

For time being, protests and politics are taking over COVID concerns. However, disease is not taking a pause. I think in a few weeks, the positive virus numbers and deaths will rise substantially resulting from Memorial weekend partying and this past weeks' group protests. Add in the opening up of restaurants, retailers, etc. Additionally, I think people in general are becoming weary of social distancing and masks. IMO...

 

[anneg]

Coronavirus outbreak traced to German hookah bar | DW | 01.06.2020

I wonder why this article is popping up now? If the date on the article is correct... maybe it isn't. JMO