Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #61

[tresir2012]

No not open for inside service. Patio only.

You're lucky. Still dry where I live both inside or out doesn't matter. R = 0.8 as well.

 

[tresir2012]

This doesn’t relate to what you implied/said about protestors wearing masks to avoid being identified. A balaclava covering most of the face is not what most protestors were wearing.

And again, you ignored the point of my original post. Mask-wearing by many, many protestors was not my point.

That article I provided gives you an example of the view on masked protesters (hunt saboteurs) in the UK doing it to avoid recognition. That is what you asked for. I can ignore provocative points I disagree with and if I think answering will be political or OT.

 

[margarita25]

Great. Now they’re throwing away PPE!!

“In the hours before the rally, cloth masks were being handed out to supporters as they filed into a designated area, but wearing them was not enforced. Some people threw masks out immediately after being handed to them, and few wore them at the outdoor concert happening next to the arena.“

Live Updates on Trump Rally: 6 Campaign Workers Test Positive for Virus

DEAR GOD.

Pass the heart medication....

 

[Cubby]

This may be old news for some, but I just learned of this today:

Fact check: Medicare pays hospitals more money for COVID-19 patients

Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

Jensen clarified in the video that he doesn't think physicians are "gaming the system" so much as other "players," such as hospital administrators, who he said may pressure physicians to cite all diagnoses, including "probable" COVID-19, on discharge papers or death certificates to get the higher Medicare allocation allowed under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act. Past practice, Jensen said, did not include probabilities.

Hmmm.....

 

[ilovewings]

Beautiful win for Tiz The Law

 

[Deleted member 158085]

From what I understand Fauci and Birx have been strongly urged not to appear on any media platform.
MOO

Hmm. Where else did we see doctors “urged” not to speak to the media?

 

[margarita25]

Can someone please tweet or Tik Tok or something NOt TO THrOW AWAY PPE—-For the love of GOD

Donate it to the WHO! - Oh wait, Who? WHO? Oh that’s right....

please please don’t throw away fresh masks!!!!! There is a Global shortage of PPE!!!!!

Stabbing us in the heart right now!!!

 

[tresir2012]

Crowds gather for Trump rally despite virus fears

I found a pic of 2 people wearing masks at the rally in this article and 2 policeman also wearing them. This says 100,000 are going to be there as there are a lot of areas set up outside the arena also.

"There will be no social distancing at the rally. And although face masks will be given out to those attending, the president will not be wearing one.

Image copyrightREUTERS
Image captionPeople will have to pass temperature checks before they can enter the venue
Attendees will have to accept a disclaimer that they "voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to Covid-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc." liable for any illness or injury.

In a Facebook post, Tulsa Mayor GT Bynum acknowledged that Tulsa's residents were divided over it being the first city to host such an event.

"We do this as our positive Covid-19 cases are rising, but while our hospital capacity remains strong. Some think it is great, some think it is reckless. Regardless of where each of us falls on that spectrum, we will go through it as a community," he wrote.

Political rallies are a source of inspiration as well as invigoration for Donald Trump. He draws energy from arenas filled with enthusiastic supporters, and uses their responses to the various riffs in his sometimes long, free-form speeches to sense what issues resonate with his loyal base.

For more than three months, as Covid-19 has spread across the US, the president has had to do without these emotional and strategic sounding boards. Now, the rallies are coming back, even though cases of the virus are reaching new record peaks in many states and public health officials continue to warn of the dangers of large gatherings.

With less than five months until election day, the president is billing this as the beginning of his re-election bid. Given that he held his official campaign kick-off in Orlando almost exactly a year ago, it perhaps is better seen as a re-boot of a campaign that has struggled to gain its footing as the nation has been beset by the pandemic and mass demonstrations against institutional racism and excessive force by police.

The president is now billing his campaign around the slogan "the Great American Comeback". Given the recent turmoil, and Mr Trump's sagging poll numbers, he is clearly hoping the Tulsa rally is the beginning of his own political revival."

 

[oviedo]

Can someone please tweet or Tik Tok or something NOt TO THrOW AWAY PPE—-For the love of GOD

Donate it to the WHO! - Oh wait, Who? WHO? Oh that’s right....

please please don’t throw away fresh masks!!!!! There is a Global shortage of PPE!!!!!

Stabbing us in the heart right now!!!

This just makes me sad ... I have a family of LE as first responders -and this??? Sigh

 

[margarita25]

This just makes me sad ... I have a family of LE as first responders -and this??? Sigh

Guys can someone please tweet someone. Get a mask donation bin going.

damnit!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Huh? Why bleach?

It was suggested as a means of keeping coronavirus at bay.

Trump’s Suggestion That Disinfectants Could Be Used to Treat Coronavirus Prompts Aggressive Pushback

 

[margarita25]

Dbm consolidate

 

[tresir2012]

Spain to allow UK tourists without quarantine

Spain's foreign affairs minister has told the BBC that British citizens will be allowed to enter the country freely, without the need to self-isolate.

She said the decision had been made "out of respect" for the 400,000 Britons who have second homes in Spain.

But current rules state that anyone returning to - or entering - the UK still has to self-isolate for 14 days.

It is understood the UK's quarantine restrictions will be reviewed on 29 June.

The UK Foreign Office is still warning against all but essential international travel.

• Quarantine rules for some countries set to be relaxed
• When can I go on holiday?

Spain's foreign affairs minister Arancha González Laya said UK visitors will go through a "triple check" upon arrival to Spain.

They will be asked for their country of origin and to register "so we know we have a contact point to trace them", she said. They will also undergo a temperature check.

 

[oviedo]

Guys can someone please tweet someone. Get a mask donation bin going.

damnit!

Any reporters covering it ?

 

[margarita25]

This just makes me sad ... I have a family of LE as first responders -and this??? Sigh

Disgusting!!!!!!!! Unacceptable!!!!!!

Someone, get the word out to someone, this can NOT HAPPEN.

Any reporters covering it ?

jinx


That’s what I’m sayin. We have a little time maybe to get the word out. I can think of a million outlets that need this right now!!!!!!!!! I gave my Own friend who is a health worker my masks!!!!! Someone, tweet NYT or WP or WHO or Red Cross or FEMA or someone!!! Fast!!!!!!! Who’s reporting on the ground that can help us.

Tweet the mayor or health dept or someone Jesus.

Can someone tweet Anderson Cooper? Or Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon ot Sanjay Gupta or someone pleeeeeeaaaze HURRY

Send this:


Now they’re throwing away PPE!!

“In the hours before the rally, cloth masks were being handed out to supporters as they filed into a designated area, but wearing them was not enforced. Some people threw masks out immediately after being handed to them, and few wore them at the outdoor concert happening next to the arena.“

Live Updates on Trump Rally: 6 Campaign Workers Test Positive for Virus

 

[margarita25]

Dbm consolidate

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Can someone please tweet or Tik Tok or something NOt TO THrOW AWAY PPE—-For the love of GOD

Donate it to the WHO! - Oh wait, Who? WHO? Oh that’s right....

please please don’t throw away fresh masks!!!!! There is a Global shortage of PPE!!!!!

Stabbing us in the heart right now!!!

I wouldn’t watch it. I’m not going to get wound up about stupid people doing stupid things. It’s to be expected. It’s one set of PPE. That’s it. Governments lost or threw out much more than this in the recent past. Watching this makes as much sense as the people who continually watched live video of the looting while absolutely freaking out about it. Just shake your head and move on. You’ll have a much more pleasant night.

 

[tresir2012]

OT breaking news

'Three dead' after park stabbing incident

 

[tresir2012]

Delete

 

[Deleted member 158085]

This may be old news for some, but I just learned of this today:

Fact check: Medicare pays hospitals more money for COVID-19 patients

Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

Jensen clarified in the video that he doesn't think physicians are "gaming the system" so much as other "players," such as hospital administrators, who he said may pressure physicians to cite all diagnoses, including "probable" COVID-19, on discharge papers or death certificates to get the higher Medicare allocation allowed under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act. Past practice, Jensen said, did not include probabilities.

Hmmm.....

Yes, we talked about this quite a while back. I think 10ofrods had some good info/perspective on it at the time. It was several threads back, though.