Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #61

[sloane7777]

California restaurant uses shower curtains to separate tables

interesting concept - after our latest outbreak from people going to a bar and testing positive - I'm not considering eating out anytime soon now
16 friends test positive for coronavirus after an outing at a Florida bar

sigh , I just don't have any desire to eat out

 

[ilovewings]

Never thought of that happening. I spray lysol like there is no tomorrow (I managed to get my hands on some from amazon prime). I don't have any reaction to it.

Unless someone has allergies to these types of products they don't think about it which is understandable. Those types of products includes essential oils that are scented, scented candles, scented soaps, etc.

 

[10ofRods]

Great! The 1st drug to show any indication of promise I am allergic to.

I just couldn't click "like" on your post. There's nothing to like about that. Of course, your doctors will be able to work around your allergies (depending on how severe they are). But naturally, it's hard not to be in the group of people who might feel more hopeful.

I have a gene now associated with a more severe outcome from CoVid (worse than being Type A blood) and even though I know a 20% increase in my chance of mortality (which is statistically otherwise about 3-4% if I get Covid) isn't that much, none of this makes me at all happy or at peace with CoVid).

{{{hugs}}}

 

[ilovewings]

I just couldn't click "like" on your post. There's nothing to like about that. Of course, your doctors will be able to work around your allergies (depending on how severe they are). But naturally, it's hard not to be in the group of people who might feel more hopeful.

I have a gene now associated with a more severe outcome from CoVid (worse than being Type A blood) and even though I know a 20% increase in my chance of mortality (which is statistically otherwise about 3-4% if I get Covid) isn't that much, none of this makes me at all happy or at peace with CoVid).

{{{hugs}}}

How did you find out this info?

 

[justbeachy]

Best of luck and I hope he is okay.

Thank you! Appt went well. Dr said that it is a lymph node and nothing to be worried about. Of course my son is loving the fact that he was "right" and I was overreacting. I told him that I would rather overreact and be wrong than have it be something important that I ignored.

We entered through a back door, stopped for him to be weighed and temp checked, then directly to the exam room. We didn't see any other patients, only medical staff.

 

[10ofRods]

This sentence jumped out at me in your excellent post @10ofRods. I am 74. This is my life. I am officially a shut-in, only going out when it’s unavoidable. I have been out of our apartment three times since I decided it was best to stay at home: March 13 (finishing up second round of stay-at-home shopping), May 18 (long overdue injections for pain) and June 16 (lab tests at the hospital in preparation for telehealth doctor appointment next week). No haircut since March 10 except for me trimming the parts in front I can reach. Pretty soon I’ll have a gray mullet!

I would love to go to our two favorite restaurants and sit outside, but I’m not going to risk it because I don’t trust or expect that others will be as careful as I am. I wouldn’t feel as afraid to go out if everyone was wearing masks and social distancing. But it’s a minority. The bars are full, despite state regulations.

Many people in my area in Southern Oregon commenting on news stories about coronavirus have the attitude “If you’re afraid of it just stay home. I’m going to live my life.” “The Governor can’t deny my rights.” “She’s a Nazi.” “It’s just glorified flu.” “The people dying have died from their other conditions.” “The fake news is trying to create panic.” “The only reason cases are increasing is because testing is increasing”...where have I heard that before? And on and on. The willful and and stubborn ignorance and selfishness is mind-blowing! Meanwhile a Church further north held a crowded service and have been slammed with cases, while our congregation does everything on zoom and stays healthy. One can make sacrifices for the sake of others, you know...Golden Rule and all that.

So yes, I’m a shut-in, and except for his walks, so is my 75 year old husband. We’ll get used to the expectation that it will be long-term. We have to. We choose to live and not infect others.

I may be facing the same life. We're spending almost all our conversational time (DH and I) doing various kinds of risk assessment. For what are we willing to up our risk? He's especially worried, since I am higher risk than he is.

I don't want to infect others and I also don't want to be in a hospital fighting this disease. I don't want the rest of my life to be as an invalid, after getting CoVid. I don't want to clog up the local hospitals and keep someone else from getting needed care.

You and I are dealing with the increasingly obvious fact that this is going to be a longterm battle in the US - perhaps endemic. I am hopeful about vaccines, so right now "longterm" means 1-2 years for me. But 1-2 years without hugging the kids or grandkids is the most depressing thing I've ever faced. I guess I've had a pretty lucky life until now.

I guess you and I are, for all intents and purposes, shut-ins. I remember as a child going with my mom on Sundays to run to the door and leave flowers and our church program/devotional pamphlet on the doors of the shut-ins. I remember waving to this one lady, Virginia, through her window and years later, in high school, she was still alive and I'd still wave when I was visiting friends near her house. Back then, there were no vaccines for measles, mumps or rubella, chicken pox was rampant and quite a serious disease for the older people to get. She must have had some immune situation. My grandmother was proud to have lived through all those diseases, but my mom nearly died from some form of measles as a child, and I had damage to my eyes.

We do have Websleuths! I doubt it's just you and me who are going to be "shut-in" (boy, do I dislike thinking about that term, but that's what it is).

I also think that without us older people out in public, life changes in ways that may not be very obvious at first.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Employee at T-Rex Cafe in Disney Springs Reportedly Tests Positive for COVID-19 - WDW News Today

 

[sloane7777]

From this morning's Tulsa World--this answers your question.
"Trump supporters, who were gathering outside of the BOK Center on Tuesday, said they had no fear of the virus. James Massery said he did not worry about COVID-19, a sentiment shared among others there.

“Whether or not I get it, it doesn’t bother me in the least,” said Massery, who is from Preston, a small community about 30 miles from Tulsa. “If I get it, I’ll deal with it ... if it takes me out, it’s just going to make me mad that I can’t vote for Trump in this coming election.” "
COVID-19: Spike in new cases continues Tuesday, as Oklahoma reports another new high

That's insane I love WEBSLEUTH'S too but I don't want us to meet up at a convention, mainly because I don't wish harm on any of you AND I'm not an idiot! Apparently those attendees are, WOW that's a lot of Stupid people in one place just sayin!

 

[mickey2942]

We are having a work training session on FMLA today from HR. I wonder if this has anything to do with Coronavirus...the HR people are screamingly funny when they are tripping over "flu", like apparently this training was written pre-Covid.

Example of not serious illness: "flu"...yeah, whatever.

 

[10ofRods]

My 15 yr old son has a doctor's appointment today and while I'm sure they have implemented significant safety measures, I'm still nervous about going. We are to text them when we arrive and they will text us when we can enter the building through a rear door. Of course we will wear masks.

He has a lump on his neck that needs to be looked at in person or I would have opted for a virtual appointment. I am praying this is nothing serious and just a swollen lymph node, but it has been there for a few months (I just noticed it last week when he turned his head a certain way, but he has said it has been there for months...gee, thanks, son, for telling me! ). Even if it is a lymph node, something has to be causing it to be swollen, and the fact that it has been there so long is concerning also. Maybe it is a lipoma, and from my absolutely-no-medical-background-whatsoever I think that would mean it is harmless.

The thought of going into a dr's office has me very anxious, but I feel like this needs to be looked at.

Of course you have to go - and I hope it all goes well. I just wish that we had a sensible larger society wherein people who had true needs to go out, went out - for at least another month, and then we open up all the party places. But apparently, we want to do it in the opposite way.

 

[10ofRods]

How did you find out this info?

23andme.

Then, about 6 weeks ago, there was a paper that confirmed that people who have APOE-4 suffer more severe cases of CoVid. Two copies of the gene makes for a very high rate of mortality via CoVid. The gene is more common in the African-American population (my great great grandmother was African).

It causes high cholesterol (my dad's whole family has it) and heart disease. So naturally, I've made lifestyle modifications and take statins. It's also associated with a higher amount of late onset dementia. So I do all the things people are supposed to do for that (like exercise my memory every day). It's also associated with weight gain (via a different way that the body handles fats). Yay.

At any rate, my younger daughter and I both have it. And now, it's CoVid. It's weird because I was teaching and showing movies about this gene long, long before I knew I had it. I used the issue to discuss the ethics of genetic testing (doctors will not order this test for you unless you ask, and even then, my doctor - who I am currently replacing - resisted me having the test).

"You can't un-know the results, once you know them," she said. I knew that. I still wanted to know. Right now, I'm actually very glad that I know, because I am a slight risk-taker by nature. Now, I'm probably overly cautious, if that's possible.

 

[LadyL]

I've just seen TP and paper towel for the first time in stores (AZ) this week (not the brands/type I want...like full sheet Bounty!) but I've seen masks and sanitizer now multiple times at more than one Walmart here (but never online). And CVS I've seen masks regularly as well.

Definitely seems like some things are being placed on in store stock more regularly than online (whereas I was finding TP online over a month ago regularly, but never in stores; Lysol and Microban spray, as well, I've seen online regularly at Walmart but not in stores)

I just do not want to go into a store. Sigh.

 

[Bravo]

I just couldn't click "like" on your post. There's nothing to like about that. Of course, your doctors will be able to work around your allergies (depending on how severe they are). But naturally, it's hard not to be in the group of people who might feel more hopeful.

I have a gene now associated with a more severe outcome from CoVid (worse than being Type A blood) and even though I know a 20% increase in my chance of mortality (which is statistically otherwise about 3-4% if I get Covid) isn't that much, none of this makes me at all happy or at peace with CoVid).

{{{hugs}}}

Hugs to you too. It is severe. Anaphalactic. So as long as the epi is ready...... I cant spell today. My Dr. wanted to put me in ICU and give me a bit of ant inflammatory to see if it was that or the Codeine. Hospital said NO.She doesn't need either med presently so it was a no go. I was taking a short stint about every 5 years for an ongoing knee issue. Never bothered me before. Until it did.

 

[LadyL]

Great! The 1st drug to show any indication of promise I am allergic to.

crap

 

[tmar]

Which coronavirus vaccine will win the race? The clues are in the vial


Which coronavirus vaccine will win the race? The clues are in the vial

By Annika Blau, Ben Spraggon, Joshua Byrd and Catherine Hanrahan
2 hrs ago
...
The old-school, the slow and the silver bullet: three options for a vaccine to free the world.
Dr Ross Jennens has devoted his career to saving lives — and now he's on the coronavirus frontline.
But not in the way you might expect.

Dr Jennens has put his hand up, or rather his arm, and become one of the first people in the world to receive a vaccine that could protect him from coronavirus.

If it works, he'll be able to treat his cancer patients at Epworth Hospital without worrying that he poses a risk to the very lives he's trying to save.

But you don't need to work in a hospital to be hanging out for a coronavirus vaccine. Without one, Australia could remain a hermit kingdom at the end of the Earth, cut off from the global community.

 

[tmar]

Coronavirus update: China raises emergency warning level, cancels flights over Beijing outbreak, Sweden holds memorial service



Coronavirus update: China raises emergency warning level, cancels flights over Beijing outbreak, Sweden holds memorial service

5 hrs ago
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China raises emergency level over Beijing outbreak
China has raised its emergency warning to its second-highest level and cancelled more than 60 per cent of flights to Beijing amid a new coronavirus outbreak in the capital.

It's a sharp pullback for China, which declared victory over the virus in March, and stands as a warning to the rest of the world about how tenacious the virus is.

Chinese officials described the situation in Beijing as "extremely grave."

"This has truly rung an alarm bell for us," Party Secretary Cai Qi told a meeting of Beijing's Communist Party Standing Committee.

The party's Global Times newspaper said 1,255 flights to and from the capital's two major airports were scrapped by Wednesday morning, about two-thirds of those scheduled.

 

[Bravo]

Off we go for a swim at our Son's and DIL's. YEAH!!! I get to talk to 2 other people.

 

[ilovewings]

23andme.

Then, about 6 weeks ago, there was a paper that confirmed that people who have APOE-4 suffer more severe cases of CoVid. Two copies of the gene makes for a very high rate of mortality via CoVid. The gene is more common in the African-American population (my great great grandmother was African).

It causes high cholesterol (my dad's whole family has it) and heart disease. So naturally, I've made lifestyle modifications and take statins. It's also associated with a higher amount of late onset dementia. So I do all the things people are supposed to do for that (like exercise my memory every day). It's also associated with weight gain (via a different way that the body handles fats). Yay.

At any rate, my younger daughter and I both have it. And now, it's CoVid. It's weird because I was teaching and showing movies about this gene long, long before I knew I had it. I used the issue to discuss the ethics of genetic testing (doctors will not order this test for you unless you ask, and even then, my doctor - who I am currently replacing - resisted me having the test).

"You can't un-know the results, once you know them," she said. I knew that. I still wanted to know. Right now, I'm actually very glad that I know, because I am a slight risk-taker by nature. Now, I'm probably overly cautious, if that's possible.

 

[StarrChance]

I have anaphylactic like intolerance to foods and chemicals. Just had one ending up in er from taking voltaren. Specialist told me many people are having more reactions due to the covid chemicals being used everywhere. Zyrtec is my friend!

 

[weepingangel]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/health/healthcare-workers-death-coronavirus/

Much more at link

A group of nurses take their spots on a sidewalk in late April a little before sunset. They’re holding candles. When 136 people from around the world have joined the vigil by video conference, they light their flames for Celia and touch them to a wick.

Two days earlier, Celia Yap-Banago died alone in her bedroom weeks after caring for a patient suspected of having covid-19 at Research Medical Center in Kansas City, Mo. Celia wasn’t just a registered nurse who would have celebrated 40 years in the profession that month. At 69, she was the plain-spoken, slightly inappropriate, kind-of-nosy mother figure of 4 North, the cardiac telemetry unit that had become an overflow ward for patients with covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

“I just wish …” Jenn Caldwell, a nurse at Research who spent years working alongside Celia, says after the vigil starts. “I wish things would’ve went a lot differently.”