Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #64

[jjenny]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...119ce2-b654-11ea-a8da-693df3d7674a_story.html

If this isn't scary, i don't know what is-- this woman states she did everything you are supposed to do but still got the virus--- the only thing i can think of is that there must have been a breach somewhere, or else how do you explain it--- it scares me because i think i do everything right (with an occasional mistake that so far hasn't cost me). Sigh

Her symptoms were extremely mild and only lasted one day. To me that suggests she got a tiny amount. Presumably either from one of the packages (even if they were sanitizing them, you still have to bring them in, and so on), or from one of her walks (she says she tried to maintain distance, but 6 feet is not necessarily enough, as covid is airborne). But obviously most people would not even figure out they had it, with symptoms that mild. So I am assuming her trying to follow guidelines still worked in her favor, because amount of covid she got infected with was likely super tiny.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I am having a deja vu.... that "no way it'll come here" kind of feeling......that I had back in January.
BBC, NYT, CNN API..... everyone is reporting on this now.

I don't know why the media has decided to make a big deal out of this now. G4 has been circulating in swine for years. It is not new.

 

[SouthAussie]

Her symptoms were extremely mild and only lasted one day. To me that suggests she got a tiny amount. Presumably either from one of the packages (even if they were sanitizing them, you still have to bring them in, and so on), or from one of her walks (she says she tried to maintain distance, but 6 feet is not necessarily enough, as covid is airborne). But obviously most people would not even figure out they had it, with symptoms that mild. So I am assuming her trying to follow guidelines still worked in her favor, because amount of covid she got infected with was likely super tiny.

I think you are probably correct. Melbourne has security guards who tested positive even though they were socially distancing. They suspect that sharing a cigarette lighter was their downfall.

 

[tabitha111]

what this article does not say is, I’m sure this is being a nightmare for anyone with a speaking part, as well as their producers, lawyers, etc.; because as/if LA filming comes back in a big way, people are going to be clamoring to be released from their contracts so that they can go somewhere and make money; which in turn will have a ripple effect as these Broadway shows will have to then decide whether or not they recast these roles or cancel the show outright, in turn putting everyone down to the theater security guards out of their jobs.

Contrary to popular belief, creatives are paid well only when they are paid. In dry spells, your creative could have a year making 18,000; and the next year have a career where they have made 180,000. Whenever the screenwriters guild strikes, there is some figure aired like ‘80 percent of WGA members make 25,000/year or less from writing’.

I have known "creatives" 2 in my family (Broadway actress & symphony orchestra member) ...2 TV producers one in LA one in NYC...and for as long as I have known them...(many years) in between projects they always go on unemployment..its a regular cycle and one that they are used to. Unemployment for 6 months til the next contract and so on and so on. It's just the way that industry is.

 

[tresir2012]

Any idea when your 5 mile restriction is going to be loosened?

I think next week but not sure.

 

[tresir2012]

why do you hope they succeed?

Because I agree with them.

 

[musicaljoke]

<rsbm> Unfortunately, the messaging from the top about coronavirus in the U.S. has contradicted and not supported the scientists. The states are left to do the best they can, but frequently that has been undermined from the top and the states disagree. Coronavirus is a dangerous enemy and we are in a war. Imagine if WWII had been fought individually by the states with no central organized plan and authority in Washington, cooperating with other countries! That’s what’s going on here and why it probably will be impossible to win this war anytime soon. JMO

Even though I'm in Canada, I used to get a lot of American, "Support our Veterans" type of messages coming across my fb, telling of housing needs, health care, loneliness, etc, so when it was clear that CoVid was attacking seniors, I fully expected to see lots of ads with, "They sacrificed for you, what will you do for them?" type of messages. But I don't see any references to veterans anymore. I'm puzzled by that.

 

[tresir2012]

They won't. At least not using this avenue. Texas state law expressly allows the governor to take these actions during a declared state of emergency. He is acting within Texas law and taking him to court is useless.

What they can do is ask the legislature to change/amend Title 4 of the Texas Government Code to strip Texas governors of their authority in these matters, which is not only unlikely to succeed but would probably take forever.

Maybe they want to get it bumped up to a higher court?

And maybe they are allowed to stay open while challenging it. I don't know but I am just guessing.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Her symptoms were extremely mild and only lasted one day. To me that suggests she got a tiny amount. Presumably either from one of the packages (even if they were sanitizing them, you still have to bring them in, and so on), or from one of her walks (she says she tried to maintain distance, but 6 feet is not necessarily enough, as covid is airborne). But obviously most people would not even figure out they had it, with symptoms that mild. So I am assuming her trying to follow guidelines still worked in her favor, because amount of covid she got infected with was likely super tiny.

S&BBM -because amount of covid she got infected with was likely super tiny.

The amount doesn't matter. If your infected with covid your infected with covid. It's how your body responds to it that makes the difference.

 

[tresir2012]

Even though I'm in Canada, I used to get a lot of American, "Support our Veterans" type of messages coming across my fb, telling of housing needs, health care, loneliness, etc, so when it was clear that CoVid was attacking seniors, I fully expected to see lots of ads with, "They sacrificed for you, what will you do for them?" type of messages. But I don't see any references to veterans anymore. I'm puzzled by that.

Most pushes to peoples computers are based on trends so all I see now is adverts for masks and sanitizers.

 

[tresir2012]

Hey Muddy!! Are you a plant by the US government...????

Why the heck are you asking that? The site posted is good info.

 

[JerseyGirl]

In Canada, the mayor of Toronto is asking the city council to make masks mandatory in public indoor spaces.

“You have told us you don’t want to see a repeat of what you see when you turn on your TV and see reports from the United States,” mayor John Tory said. Tory believes the vast majority of councillors will support it. The bylaw will come into effect July 7, if passed.

Dr. Eileen de Villa, Toronto’s Medical Officer of Health, said there is growing evidence that shows non medical masks can help prevent the spread of COVID-19 and noted many cities in the U.S. are seeing a resurgence in cases since reopening.

Coronavirus live updates: India warns citizens against 'negligence'; Spain prepares to open borders

 

[anneg]

Actually SARS-Coronavirus-1 is a good analogue. Comparatively speaking.

And I don't think anyone here has posted a single thing about corona viruses in general, from a scientific point of view. The people who make those kinds of comparisons are out there - but they're not posting here.

But we don't have to "stick to" one pandemic to understand human behavior under stress. Or when faced with epidemics/pandemics.

I highly recommend A Distant Mirror by Barbara Tuchman, which shows how similar our own society is to the societies that experienced Bubonic Plague and how similar the divisions and behaviors are.

I used to have that excellent book, but unfortunately it didn't make it here after our last move. I'd like to read it again.

 

[CharlestonGal]

https://www.newsweek.com/houston-ma...ame-covid-19-non-compliance-1514225?piano_t=1

On Monday afternoon, Democratic Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner announced on Twitter that his city has started a "Wall of Shame" for local businesses that do not comply with Republican Governor Greg Abbott's June 26 executive order closing all bars and reducing restaurant capacity to 50 percent.

"Today, we are announcing the first three businesses for our city's wall of shame," Sylvester wrote in his tweet. "The three businesses include Spire Club, Prospect Park, and Pour Behavior."

Spire Club is a reception hall that came under criticism after weekend photos showed patrons crowding the venue without wearing face masks or observing social distancing.

Prospect Park and Pour Behavior are sports bars that both had their licenses suspended for 30 days on Friday after allegedly failing to comply with regulations designed to slow the spread of COVID-19.

 

[tresir2012]

https://www.newsweek.com/houston-ma...ame-covid-19-non-compliance-1514225?piano_t=1

On Monday afternoon, Democratic Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner announced on Twitter that his city has started a "Wall of Shame" for local businesses that do not comply with Republican Governor Greg Abbott's June 26 executive order closing all bars and reducing restaurant capacity to 50 percent.

"Today, we are announcing the first three businesses for our city's wall of shame," Sylvester wrote in his tweet. "The three businesses include Spire Club, Prospect Park, and Pour Behavior."

Spire Club is a reception hall that came under criticism after weekend photos showed patrons crowding the venue without wearing face masks or observing social distancing.

Prospect Park and Pour Behavior are sports bars that both had their licenses suspended for 30 days on Friday after allegedly failing to comply with regulations designed to slow the spread of COVID-19.

That is ridiculous. I don't see that going down well at all.

 

[jjenny]

S&BBM -because amount of covid she got infected with was likely super tiny.

The amount doesn't matter. If your infected with covid your infected with covid. It's how your body responds to it that makes the difference.

NOT TRUE AT ALL! The dose you are exposed to can make a huge difference in how your body responds and if your immune system is able to fight it off.

"Infectious respiratory diseases spread when a healthy person comes in contact with virus particles expelled by someone who is sick — usually through a cough or sneeze. The amount of particles a person is exposed to can affect how likely they are to become infected and, once infected, how severe the symptoms become."
How much of the coronavirus does it take to make you sick? - STAT

 

[SouthAussie]

https://www.newsweek.com/houston-ma...ame-covid-19-non-compliance-1514225?piano_t=1

On Monday afternoon, Democratic Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner announced on Twitter that his city has started a "Wall of Shame" for local businesses that do not comply with Republican Governor Greg Abbott's June 26 executive order closing all bars and reducing restaurant capacity to 50 percent.

"Today, we are announcing the first three businesses for our city's wall of shame," Sylvester wrote in his tweet. "The three businesses include Spire Club, Prospect Park, and Pour Behavior."

Spire Club is a reception hall that came under criticism after weekend photos showed patrons crowding the venue without wearing face masks or observing social distancing.

Prospect Park and Pour Behavior are sports bars that both had their licenses suspended for 30 days on Friday after allegedly failing to comply with regulations designed to slow the spread of COVID-19.

Good to see that someone is actually doing something about these non-compliant venues.

Suspending liquor licenses is one way to make them start thinking about what they are doing, and will give the police the authority to make sure that they are complying.

Alcohol can be such a danger to compliance. I remember when our restrictions were very first eased, we were allowed to have a (socially distanced) meal in a cafe but they were not allowed to serve alcohol (yet).

 

[CSIDreamer]

https://www.newsweek.com/houston-ma...ame-covid-19-non-compliance-1514225?piano_t=1

On Monday afternoon, Democratic Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner announced on Twitter that his city has started a "Wall of Shame" for local businesses that do not comply with Republican Governor Greg Abbott's June 26 executive order closing all bars and reducing restaurant capacity to 50 percent.

"Today, we are announcing the first three businesses for our city's wall of shame," Sylvester wrote in his tweet. "The three businesses include Spire Club, Prospect Park, and Pour Behavior."

Spire Club is a reception hall that came under criticism after weekend photos showed patrons crowding the venue without wearing face masks or observing social distancing.

Prospect Park and Pour Behavior are sports bars that both had their licenses suspended for 30 days on Friday after allegedly failing to comply with regulations designed to slow the spread of COVID-19.

Welcome to 2020, the year of shaming. Goodness. jmo

 

[CharlestonGal]

That is ridiculous. I don't see that going down well at all.

It'll be fine. It's Texas.

 

[JerseyGirl]

https://www.newsweek.com/houston-ma...ame-covid-19-non-compliance-1514225?piano_t=1

On Monday afternoon, Democratic Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner announced on Twitter that his city has started a "Wall of Shame" for local businesses that do not comply with Republican Governor Greg Abbott's June 26 executive order closing all bars and reducing restaurant capacity to 50 percent.

"Today, we are announcing the first three businesses for our city's wall of shame," Sylvester wrote in his tweet. "The three businesses include Spire Club, Prospect Park, and Pour Behavior."

Spire Club is a reception hall that came under criticism after weekend photos showed patrons crowding the venue without wearing face masks or observing social distancing.

Prospect Park and Pour Behavior are sports bars that both had their licenses suspended for 30 days on Friday after allegedly failing to comply with regulations designed to slow the spread of COVID-19.

Seven Texas bars, including two in the Houston area, had their alcohol permits suspended for 30 days after the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission said the establishments did not comply with an executive order from Gov. Greg Abbott that required bars to shut down to limit the spread of COVID-19.

Houston bar refuses to close under new executive order: TABC

In addition to Spire Club and Pour Behavior bars, also banned were:

• Prospect Park, Houston
• Bokeeters Cocktail Bar, New Caney
• Black Stone USA, Fredericksburg
• The Park @ The Domain, Austin
• The Venue Private Club, Wills Point

Two other locations’ permits were suspended June 26:

• Whiskey Girl, Abilene
• Outlaws Longview, Longview