Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #64

[mickey2942]

I saw some statistics that really hit home to me:

Over age 80, with additional health problems, 100 x more chance of dying from Covid-19, than someone who is 25 years old. That pretty much means, if my husband gets Covid, he is dead.

I don't need to go to the gym anymore. Or get my haircut.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

And I am not selling it.

And there's that - LOL

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I think basically the governor had no choice. Whatever they are claiming, it's clear to me the hospitals in a city like Houston were running out of room to put all the covid patients in.

That’s false news.
'We were getting panicked calls': After 100% capacity debacle, Houston hospitals make reporting changes
“We were getting panicked calls from elected officials and members of the media saying, ‘You all are out of ICU beds, what are we going to do?’ No, that’s not right. We were not doing a very good job with our slides and portraying how we manage our capacity,” said Dr. David Callender, President & CEO, Memorial Hermann Hospital. “We want to be very clear. We’re not close to running out of capacity.”

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I saw some statistics that really hit home to me:

Over age 80, with additional health problems, 100 x more chance of dying from Covid-19, than someone who is 25 years old. That pretty much means, if my husband gets Covid, he is dead.

I don't need to go to the gym anymore. Or get my haircut.

Sadly, it's a scary reality.

 

[CharlestonGal]

All fireworks shows cancelled in Bay Area

The skies are forecast to be clear in the Bay Area on Saturday, even in San Francisco that has a reputation for being socked in with fog on July 4.

Despite the fireworks-friendly forecast, there won't be any dazzling displays of color lighting up San Francisco Bay.

Fireworks shows across the region are cancelled to discourage large gatherings amid the coronavirus pandemic. None of the big annual shows at the Berkeley Marina, Marin County Fair, Sausalito waterfront and San Francisco's Aquatic Park will take place.

Small-town celebrations—including fireworks, parades and festivals—have also been cancelled.

 

[tresir2012]

Ok, so why not sign up to be infected with a tiny bit of covid? I'm not buying it.

That's called a vaccine.

This is the CDC estimating up to 55k deaths from the flu in the 2019-20 season. I guess this is on top of the Coronavirus deaths.

Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates

 

[MimosaMornings]

Antibody testing? Once they finally get reliable tests going.

Yes, I would go if there were reliable tests. I asked my doctor and she wasn’t keen on the ones out there available to the public.

 

[10ofRods]

Oh, my gosh, that's brutal. I've struggled since January with being able to think too far ahead on how this pans out. Couple this with the inevitable economic disaster looming and this is seriously overwhelming and depressing.

Yes, it is. And it's really hard to come to terms with it. I do think there will be a vaccine (well, there *are* vaccines but how that will roll out here in the US, I don't know.

We're basically putting all our eggs in the vaccine basket if we want to avoid longterm, devastating health and economic consequences.

There will be a vaccine. IMO. But a lot of Americans won't take it, so they will remain at risk (and a very small number of the vaccinated will likely still acquire a mild case of CoVid-19).

The Oxford virus is going into testing in UK and Brazil (and one other nation). They're looking for a city in the US with rising rates to do another trial. They have to do very large numbers of people. They'll know by end of August (if they choose the right places) whether the vaccine is actually working against Sars-coronavirus-2 but they won't know until much later if the vaccine confers any sort of longterm immunity.

India is asking to be part of this trial.

By September, Oxford researchers believe they'll have data to get early approval to widen the group who gets the vaccine - which they hope to do by October.

Vaccine won't be generally available until after that. We're very lucky that the weakened virus formulation of the vaccine is working so well to produce antibodies identical to the ones in convalescent plasma.

The upcoming studies will show how long it takes for the vaccine to really kick in, and by the middle of next year, we should know whether booster shots will be necessary (or whether other delivery forms, such as nasal sprays, might also be viable).

 

[Tippy Lynn]

That's called a vaccine.

This is the CDC estimating up to 55k deaths from the flu in the 2019-20 season. I guess this is on top of the Coronavirus deaths.

Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates

Right!

 

[jjenny]

That’s false news.
'We were getting panicked calls': After 100% capacity debacle, Houston hospitals make reporting changes
“We were getting panicked calls from elected officials and members of the media saying, ‘You all are out of ICU beds, what are we going to do?’ No, that’s not right. We were not doing a very good job with our slides and portraying how we manage our capacity,” said Dr. David Callender, President & CEO, Memorial Hermann Hospital. “We want to be very clear. We’re not close to running out of capacity.”

They hospitals reported they were reaching 100 % capacity, got panicked calls, and changed how they were reporting it. But I absolutely believe what they were initially reporting are the right numbers.

 

[Tate123]

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[musicaljoke]

Americans, by and large, are poorly educated in matters of science and medicine, and particularly ignorant about the phenomenon of exponential spread of contagion. Then, rather than look to medical and research experts in infectious disease response and follow scientific guidance, we decided to listen to ill-informed politicians and Facebook.

It's too late to go back now. Life could have returned to relative normalcy by now as it has in other parts of the world, but it's not to be. Things are getting worse rather than better, which is a shame. It didn't have to be this way.

It's certainly an idea that warrants further study. I suspect that you are correct, that the quality of education plays a significant role in how well the countries manage this pandemic.

If you look at the top 10 countries with the highest student science performance in the PISA international comparison testing, all top ten countries are included in the list of countries whose citizens can travel to into the EU.

Which 14 countries are expected to be allowed to travel to the EU?

International Comparison of Math, Reading, and Science Skills Among 15-Year-Olds
PISA - PISA

 

[oviedo]

Florida coronavirus: Another 6,000-plus COVID-19 cases reported

we are doomed...
JMO

 

[jjenny]

So here is the story in TX. Houston hospitals did report they were going to exceed capacity by July 6 in ICUs. Of course they got panicked calls, and then they changed the way they report their ICU capacity. But did the capacity just magically increased? I believe they are just going to claim they still have the capacity by the supposed ability to change regular beds into ICU beds.
"The institutions — which together constitute the world’s largest medical complex — reported Thursday that their base intensive care capacity had hit 100 percent for the first time during the pandemic and was on pace to exceed an “unsustainable surge capacity” of intensive care beds by July 6."
Houston hospitals hit 100% base ICU capacity. Then they stopped reporting data.

 

[tresir2012]

Sudden shutdown of Texas bars leaves owners, employees (and patrons) uncertain about the future

HOUSTON – Ed Noyes was trying to get some shut-eye when he woke up to seven different texts Friday morning.

Three of the five bartenders at his Fort Worth establishment — plus his girlfriend — delivered the news: Malone’s Pub had to shutter immediately under the governor’s orders. His employees wanted reassurances: Would the business survive? Should they file for unemployment? What were his next steps?

“We were just all in shock,” Noyes said.

On Friday morning, Gov. Greg Abbottdelivered another economic blow to bars and other places that receive more than 51% of their gross receipts from selling alcohol. The establishments had to shut down by noon after a statewide surge in coronavirus infections officials said was largely driven by activities like congregating bars. There’s no immediate plan for when they’ll be able to reopen.

“The announcement just came out of nowhere,” Noyes said. “When I went to bed last night I thought we’d be open for the weekend, so this really blindsided me.”

Restaurants were ordered to scale back their operations to 50% capacity. And Abbott also banned river-rafting trips. They were his most drastic actions yetto respond to the post-reopening coronavirus surge in Texas.

Continued at link

 

[musicaljoke]

That’s false news.
'We were getting panicked calls': After 100% capacity debacle, Houston hospitals make reporting changes
“We were getting panicked calls from elected officials and members of the media saying, ‘You all are out of ICU beds, what are we going to do?’ No, that’s not right. We were not doing a very good job with our slides and portraying how we manage our capacity,” said Dr. David Callender, President & CEO, Memorial Hermann Hospital. “We want to be very clear. We’re not close to running out of capacity.”

Wanna know how they don't run out of capacity? They send home patients who are not dying. As long as there are enough health care workers to care for the sick in their homes, it will provide a relief to the hospitals and may have good outcomes for the patients.

Hospitals make room for coronavirus patients by trying to treat people at home

 

[Tippy Lynn]

They hospitals reported they were reaching 100 % capacity, got panicked calls, and changed how they were reporting it. But I absolutely believe what they were initially reporting are the right numbers.

Part of the problem is everyone is reporting differently and changing how they report as they go. It's ridiculous and absolutely absurd this is going on during a pandemic.

As the days go on I'm having a harder and harder time believing anything anyone is saying.

jmo

 

[squareandrabbet]

I have known "creatives" 2 in my family (Broadway actress & symphony orchestra member) ...2 TV producers one in LA one in NYC...and for as long as I have known them...(many years) in between projects they always go on unemployment..its a regular cycle and one that they are used to. Unemployment for 6 months til the next contract and so on and so on. It's just the way that industry is.

wow, well I’m certainly glad to hear I’m apparently the only person in NYC who has money worries at this point in time ... as maximum unemployment per week in NYS is $504, and that would about cover an average month of rent. I’m guessing your Broadway actress relation must be a principal, and thus paid accordingly? Of course, last time I checked scale for the lowest paid Equity actor was more per week than I made as a legal assistant, which must be nice.

 

[musicaljoke]

Sudden shutdown of Texas bars leaves owners, employees (and patrons) uncertain about the future

HOUSTON – Ed Noyes was trying to get some shut-eye when he woke up to seven different texts Friday morning.

Three of the five bartenders at his Fort Worth establishment — plus his girlfriend — delivered the news: Malone’s Pub had to shutter immediately under the governor’s orders. His employees wanted reassurances: Would the business survive? Should they file for unemployment? What were his next steps?

“We were just all in shock,” Noyes said.

On Friday morning, Gov. Greg Abbottdelivered another economic blow to bars and other places that receive more than 51% of their gross receipts from selling alcohol. The establishments had to shut down by noon after a statewide surge in coronavirus infections officials said was largely driven by activities like congregating bars. There’s no immediate plan for when they’ll be able to reopen.

“The announcement just came out of nowhere,” Noyes said. “When I went to bed last night I thought we’d be open for the weekend, so this really blindsided me.”

Restaurants were ordered to scale back their operations to 50% capacity. And Abbott also banned river-rafting trips. They were his most drastic actions yetto respond to the post-reopening coronavirus surge in Texas.

Continued at link

This is really sad, but it was both predictable and preventable.

 

[tresir2012]

Taking a high road doesn't always work, does it?

Neither does the low road either. People have to make their own mind up about most things, including smoking, drinking, going to protests, parties, etc.