Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #64

[margarita25]

Chris Cuomo CNN/ See FL Governor Clip

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[10ofRods]

But likewise, some factions have very good reason to downplay negative news while broadcasting hearts and flowers about whatever statistic they can manipulate to suit.

Who to believe, who to believe.

Start with doctors, who are on the front lines and besides have sworn to care about you and all others. Look at their research.

Then, scientists. Don't believe any "factions" at all.

 

[10ofRods]

That article didn't say 'there were no medical experts.' There were several on each panel, and it saids they reviewed each step of the proposed reopening phases.

"Industry officials said they drew their reopening recommendations from state and federal guidelines as well as restrictions in other states, in order to ensure safety and consistency.

He stressed that officials from the governor’s office and the Ohio Department of Health were involved in approving the guidelines."


Did anyone think there weren't going to be any new cases when we began opening up again?

The death totals have stayed very low in Ohio, even though the cases are rising. The new cases are mostly very young patients, and hopefully they will recover quickly.

People who can quarantine--- while living on social security or pensions or work from home jobs ---seem very dismissive of those who own businesses or rely upon daily jobs to support their families. MANY people are grateful that there were business experts on the board, when they made the plans to reopen.

People who are comfortably hibernating and ordering food and feeling all cozy may not understand that IF the economy totally collapses, they will not be able to live so comfortably anymore.

Someone has to protect the supply chains and the transportation hubs and the manufacturing plants, in order for the rest of us to be able to order our instacart supplies each week. JMO

Ohio had 40 deaths today (about the same as Arizona). That's 280 deaths a week (and rising, not going down - which is central to understanding viruses). That's not a low rate. Not for a state with half the population of Arizona.

We're protecting all the things you mentioned - but on top of that, people are out in bars and restaurants and beaches partying. We're not talking about essential workers only (take a look at the stats from 4 weeks ago).

Ohio is entering a phase of R-naught of about 1.11 (about the same as California).

That's not the number you would want for a state - and it's not the way to shut this down. A thousand deaths a month (more or less) is not what people usually find acceptable in a state of 10-11 million. It's unprecedented.

 

[Lilibet]

Tears. True love.

After 53 years of marriage, a Texas couple died holding hands from Covid-19 - CNN

 

[passionflower]

Pittsburgh area shut down sales of alcohol in bars and restaurants today. No large indoor venues. They tried and people didn’t listen. Highest jump yesterday in covid19

 

[COSCitizen]

We've been speculating about the relationship between air conditioning and COVID 19. Here is an article from Harvard Gazette:

Air conditioning may be factor in COVID-19 spread in the South

 

[10ofRods]

I don't even entirely trust all the death stats, to be honest.

Both the US and UK are apparently underreporting. Several states are still not including care home deaths, which means the US death figure should be several thousand higher. The UK does include care homes, but has an unexplained excess death rate, as do several other nations. Nobody is reporting in the exact same way as other countries so comparison is inconsistent and some stats seem fantastical. Most countries have a political or financial agenda. The media are using scare tactics to sell newspapers. The business owners are desperate to earn money. The pharma companies are watching their bank balances rise. The politicians are trying to save their skin at any cost. So, who SHOULD we believe?

It's all one big chaotic mess (in my very own personal opinion)

True, but under-reporting in mostly systematic ways, on which there is a good bit of data.

I think the excess death rates show that the US is significantly higher (22% or so) of what they reported. UK is perhaps 35% higher. But other nations are higher than either.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Delaware pauses reopening, beach bars to close ahead of July 4th holiday weekend

“Bars in zip codes which include Lewes, Rehoboth Beach and Dewey Beach will close on Friday due to an uptick in COVID-19, Gov. John Carney said Tuesday.


The bars will close ahead of the July 4th holiday and will remain closed indefinitely, Carney said.

Health officials are now urging anyone who frequents the beach, lives at the beach in a congregate setting, or works at the beach, to get a COVID-19 test.”

 

[katydid23]

Ohio had 40 deaths today (about the same as Arizona). That's 280 deaths a week (and rising, not going down - which is central to understanding viruses). That's not a low rate. Not for a state with half the population of Arizona.

We're protecting all the things you mentioned - but on top of that, people are out in bars and restaurants and beaches partying. We're not talking about essential workers only (take a look at the stats from 4 weeks ago).

Ohio is entering a phase of R-naught of about 1.11 (about the same as California).

That's not the number you would want for a state - and it's not the way to shut this down. A thousand deaths a month (more or less) is not what people usually find acceptable in a state of 10-11 million. It's unprecedented.

The graph I am looking at showed :
17 deaths for June 26th
16 deaths for June 27th
3 deaths for June 28th
11 deaths for June 29th


So 40 deaths on the 30th is a surprise. I didn't see that in the graph I was viewing.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Serious coronavirus-linked condition hit 285 US children

At least 285 U.S. children have developed a serious inflammatory condition linked to the coronavirus and while most recovered, the potential for long-term or permanent damage is unknown, two new studies suggest.

The papers, published Monday in the New England Journal of Medicine, provide the fullest report yet on the condition.

The condition is known as multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children. It is considered uncommon and deaths are rare; six children died among the 285 in the new studies.

 

[jjenny]

The graph I am looking at showed :
17 deaths for June 26th
16 deaths for June 27th
3 deaths for June 28th
11 deaths for June 29th


So 40 deaths on the 30th is a surprise. I didn't see that in the graph I was viewing.

It's actually 45 deaths today. Cases are rising, hospitalizations are rising.
"Deaths across Ohio increased by 45, bringing the statewide total to 2,863."
Coronavirus cases remain elevated; new hospitalizations reach highest point in 3 weeks

 

[Lilibet]

Which DIY or commercial non-medical mask tested best?

Researchers at Florida Atlantic University have experimented with different materials and styles of non-medical masks and found that a well-fitted stitched mask made from two layers of quilting fabric was the most effective in stopping the spread of droplets from emulated coughs and sneezes. They also compared a loosely folded homemade face mask, such as one you could make with a handkerchief or T-shirt, a bandana-style face covering and a cone-style non-sterile commercial mask that is usually available at pharmacies.
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They found that droplets from a simulated uncovered cough were able to travel more than 8 feet; with a bandana they traveled 3 feet, with a folded cotton handkerchief, they traveled 1 foot, 3 inches; and with the cone-style mask, droplets traveled about 8 inches. With the stitched-quilting fabric mask, they traveled 2.5 inches.

The best DIY face mask material and fit? Quilting cotton beats bandana, new study says - CNN

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Becker's ASC Review surveyed 15 administrators to hear best practices around restarting elective procedures and solicit predictions on the effects of a potential second wave.

15 ASC administrators on patient volumes, effects of a 2nd wave

 

[JerseyGirl]

[URL="https://www.google.com/amp/s/6abc.com/amp/philadelphia-travel-advisory-nj-covid-19-cases/6286413/"]Travel advisories expand in Philadelphia, New Jersey as COVID-19 cases spike
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As Philadelphia is pumping the brakes on reopening plans, the Kenney Administration issued a travel advisory Tuesday, stating anyone traveling to and from 15 states where coronavirus cases are skyrocketing should self-quarantine for 14 days.

While things are much slower at Philadelphia International Airport, dozens of travelers are still arriving from hot spots like Georgia, California and Florida.

"By the time you're halfway through the flight, people have the mask under their nose or under their chin so it's like it's not really doing anything," said Mark McCannon, who flew into Philadelphia from Los Angeles.

Jalil Jones of Allentown arrived from Miami and said he thinks the travel advisory is "dumb." "Safe to say I'm not going to quarantine: I have no cough, I can smell, I can taste, yeah , I seem perfectly fine," said Jones.

"People are kind of over quarantining in general and I don't know, I think a lot of jobs aren't going to allow you to wait for two weeks," said Saleena Khamamkar of Los Angeles.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

The St. Louis Metropolitan Pandemic Task Force will no longer combine confirmed admissions and suspected COVID-19 cases after the commission found several of the suspected cases turned out to be negative, according to a local NBC affiliate.

The task force's hospital data will now only include confirmed COVID-19 admissions with the additional affected data points to include total hospitalizations, daily ICU patients and the number of patients on ventilators, according to the report.

St. Louis pandemic task force to stop reporting suspected cases due to many negative tests: The St. Louis Metropolitan Pandemic Task Force will no longer combine confirmed admissions and suspected COVID-19 cases after the commission found several of the suspected cases turned out to be negative, according to a local NBC affiliate.

 

[10ofRods]

Which DIY or commercial non-medical mask tested best?

Researchers at Florida Atlantic University have experimented with different materials and styles of non-medical masks and found that a well-fitted stitched mask made from two layers of quilting fabric was the most effective in stopping the spread of droplets from emulated coughs and sneezes. They also compared a loosely folded homemade face mask, such as one you could make with a handkerchief or T-shirt, a bandana-style face covering and a cone-style non-sterile commercial mask that is usually available at pharmacies.
<snip>

They found that droplets from a simulated uncovered cough were able to travel more than 8 feet; with a bandana they traveled 3 feet, with a folded cotton handkerchief, they traveled 1 foot, 3 inches; and with the cone-style mask, droplets traveled about 8 inches. With the stitched-quilting fabric mask, they traveled 2.5 inches.

The best DIY face mask material and fit? Quilting cotton beats bandana, new study says - CNN

So a bandana is not much protection during an ordinary conversation. But works "okay" for circumstances where a person can be sure no one is within 8 feet.

Stitched masks with layers are clearly better. The opposite test (how far do particles travel *through* the mask when expelled by someone else?) needs to be tested, too.

I am quite certain that people wearing masks are protecting others. What I want to know is if they, themselves (the altruistic ones) are protected from the non-mask wearers.

 

[Lilibet]

So a bandana is not much protection during an ordinary conversation. But works "okay" for circumstances where a person can be sure no one is within 8 feet.

Stitched masks with layers are clearly better. The opposite test (how far do particles travel *through* the mask when expelled by someone else?) needs to be tested, too.

I am quite certain that people wearing masks are protecting others. What I want to know is if they, themselves (the altruistic ones) are protected from the non-mask wearers.

Yes, I’d like to know how protected I am. My mask is the type they recommend, with a coffee filter pocket sewn in for added protection. Not that I go out much!

A friend in Montana is attaching bandanas to cloth masks so they hang down for a “cowboy look.” She’s sending a red one to my husband.

 

[margarita25]

Interview with a vaccine volunteer: wow what a hero!

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[JerseyGirl]

New York Public Library Lions Don Face Masks As City Reopens

The iconic lion statues that stand guard outside the New York Public Library’s 42nd Street branch have been outfitted with face masks.

“Patience and Fortitude are the perfect symbols for the strengths our city and our nation need now even more. Like them, New Yorkers are strong and resilient and can weather any storm. We will get to the other side of this public health crisis together,” library President Anthony W. Marx said in a statement.

“But to do so, we must remain vigilant, we must have patience and fortitude, and we must follow what experts tell us, especially as we continue to reopen our cities. The lions, protectors of knowledge and truth who have seen 109 years worth of history, are setting that example.”

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Yes, I’d like to know how protected I am. My mask is the type they recommend, with a coffee filter pocket sewn in for added protection. Not that I go out much!

A friend in Montana is attaching bandanas to cloth masks so they hang down for a “cowboy look.” She’s sending a red one to my husband.

Is it possible for the virus to enter your body thru your eyes no matter what kind of mask you are wearing?