Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #64

[Betty P]

I lean towards believing the 744 people who have died today. Double the deaths of yesterday. That is exactly the wrong direction.

Some are also overlooking the permanent damage done to the health of many COVID 19 survivors. Those who have it in their lungs find they are damaged and scarred afterwards. That scarring of the lungs doesn't heal and only worsens as you get older.

That article didn't say 'there were no medical experts.' There were several on each panel, and it saids they reviewed each step of the proposed reopening phases.

"Industry officials said they drew their reopening recommendations from state and federal guidelines as well as restrictions in other states, in order to ensure safety and consistency.

He stressed that officials from the governor’s office and the Ohio Department of Health were involved in approving the guidelines."


Did anyone think there weren't going to be any new cases when we began opening up again?

The death totals have stayed very low in Ohio, even though the cases are rising. The new cases are mostly very young patients, and hopefully they will recover quickly.

People who can quarantine--- while living on social security or pensions or work from home jobs ---seem very dismissive of those who own businesses or rely upon daily jobs to support their families. MANY people are grateful that there were business experts on the board, when they made the plans to reopen.

People who are comfortably hibernating and ordering food and feeling all cozy may not understand that IF the economy totally collapses, they will not be able to live so comfortably anymore.

Someone has to protect the supply chains and the transportation hubs and the manufacturing plants, in order for the rest of us to be able to order our instacart supplies each week. JMO

Since the departure of Dr Acton from the Ohio Dept of health, there is no health care professional in charge. The interim head of ODH is an attorney who also served in the job for most of the previous governors term. So it seems unlikely there were any health care professionals who had a vote on the matter. It's how Ohio rolls, though.

The state is now seeing a big resurgence in cases, no surprise. BTW it's possible for all types of important businesses to operate safely, and many have been doing it with no problems. Sadly the least save businesses are far way because they choose to cut corners and disregard sound advice from experts. That's partly the state's fault as they approved certain activities that are unsafe.

 

[KALI]

More new closures for California. Through our July 4th weekend.
I get it. Independence Day in America involves big parties.

What I do not get, is that our cases have gone up dramatically with 27 to 35 year olds, yet no media is connecting the dots, that, hey, maybe this is linked to tens of thousands protesters and rioters closely spaced, yelling and chanting at the top of their lungs for hours and hours?
Nope.
Media and leaders will not go "there, to the obvious".
Yet, they'll shut down our businesses that our working our hearts out to comply with CDC guidelines.
If, California orders us, to shut down our restaurant, which is mostly outside dining, again...
We will not comply.
I guess saying "We're all Protesters" is the magic word.



REALLY?

 

[JerseyGirl]

Which DIY or commercial non-medical mask tested best?

Researchers at Florida Atlantic University have experimented with different materials and styles of non-medical masks and found that a well-fitted stitched mask made from two layers of quilting fabric was the most effective in stopping the spread of droplets from emulated coughs and sneezes. They also compared a loosely folded homemade face mask, such as one you could make with a handkerchief or T-shirt, a bandana-style face covering and a cone-style non-sterile commercial mask that is usually available at pharmacies.
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They found that droplets from a simulated uncovered cough were able to travel more than 8 feet; with a bandana they traveled 3 feet, with a folded cotton handkerchief, they traveled 1 foot, 3 inches; and with the cone-style mask, droplets traveled about 8 inches. With the stitched-quilting fabric mask, they traveled 2.5 inches.

The best DIY face mask material and fit? Quilting cotton beats bandana, new study says - CNN

Droplet results:

Uncovered: Droplets traveled more than 8 feet. By 12 feet, most droplets had fallen to the ground.

Bandana covering the nose and mouth but loose at the bottom: 3 feet.

Handkerchief or square from a T-shirt, loosely folded and secured over the ears with rubber bands: 15 inches.

Cone-style non-sterile commercial mask: 8 inches.

Stitched mask, closely fitted, with two layers of quilting fabric and elastic loops or cloth ties: 2½ inches.

Mask test: Which type works best at stopping droplets?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Is it possible for the virus to enter your body thru your eyes no matter what kind of mask you are wearing?

Yes, the virus can enter through your eyes.

Why you should consider protecting your eyes against COVID-19

 

[JerseyGirl]

Is it possible for the virus to enter your body thru your eyes no matter what kind of mask you are wearing?

Can You Catch COVID-19 Through Your Eyes?

Some research has begun pointing in that direction, according to Elia Duh, MD, a researcher and professor of ophthalmology at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine in Baltimore.

The clear tissue that covers the white of the eye and lines the inside of the eyelid, known as the conjunctiva, “can be infected by other viruses, such as adenoviruses associated with the common cold and the herpes simplex virus,” he says.

There’s the same chance of infection with SARS-CoV-2, says Duh. “If there are droplets that an infected individual is producing by coughing or sneezing or even speaking, then the front of the eyes are directly exposed, just like the nasal passages are exposed. In addition, people rub and touch their eyes a lot. So there’s certainly already the vulnerability.”

Can You Catch COVID-19 Through Your Eyes?

 

[passionflower]

What do you think about the I phones having covid19 tracking?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

It sure didn't take long for a few states to go from slowly re-opening back to crisis response mode.

 

[BeckyF]

Would it be stupid of me to say that I wish I’d get the virus just to get it over with? Since so many people say most people will get it eventually anyway? I am high risk anyway due to age and I have a lung condition.

 

[Yesiamapirate]

Note, that 2nd shot is a dosey! You might get a fever the 2nd day. I had one last month. 1st shot, no problem. 2nd one.. I wondered if I had Covid. Just FYI.

Me too! 101 temp with the second shot. The nurse warned me and said not to panic. I am glad she said something. I still was a wee bit worried I caught covid and pulled out the aftercare paperwork just to make myself feel better.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Would it be stupid of me to say that I wish I’d get the virus just to get it over with? Since so many people say most people will get it eventually anyway? I am high risk anyway due to age and I have a lung condition.

I know it's hard to keep worrying about getting it, but you should avoid it if you can. It's nothing to mess around with.

 

[Betty P]

Non political please / for informative purposes as related to this pandemic going forward and millions of people possibly losing their medical insurance:

June 30, 2020 at 11:55 a.m. MDT

“Two crises are converging in health care that will make life much worse for Americans. As a physician, I see them colliding in my patients — and I am both heartbroken and furious. On Thursday, as the covid-19 pandemic claimed its 122,000th American life, the Trump administration filed a brief to the U.S. Supreme Court, effectively seeking to eliminate the Affordable Care Act, which could take health care away from 23 million people”

[...]

“...more lost their jobs — and for many of them, their employer-provided health insurance — because of a nosediving economy Trump left defenseless against covid-19. His reckless effort to eliminate the ACA now could also take away health care or raise costs for 130 million Americans with preexisting conditions, and the consequences for people during this pandemic will be far-reaching and dire.”

[...]

“Now, in the middle of a pandemic that is killing hundreds of Americans a day, Trump and Republican attorneys general in 18 states want to take away the security and protection of health care from millions of people. Too many will suffer if they succeed.“
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...macare-during-pandemic-that-puts-us-all-risk/

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“The administration’s decision to submit this new brief is the wrong policy at the worst possible time as our nation is in the midst of a pandemic,” Collins said in a statement to The Washington Post. “The Affordable Care Act remains the law of the land, and it is the Department of Justice’s duty to defend it.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-administrations-move-to-end-obamacare-amid-pandemic-reignites-political-fight/2020/06/26/9c1ddb98-b7bf-11ea-9b0f-c797548c1154_story.html

Thanks! Let's keep repeating this. Public officials don't want to discuss it.

 

[Betty P]

Would it be stupid of me to say that I wish I’d get the virus just to get it over with? Since so many people say most people will get it eventually anyway? I am high risk anyway due to age and I have a lung condition.

There will be a vaccine within the next several months, don't worry.

Ignore the fools who say everyone will get it anyway. Your life has value, you are important.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Would it be stupid of me to say that I wish I’d get the virus just to get it over with? Since so many people say most people will get it eventually anyway? I am high risk anyway due to age and I have a lung condition.

I don't think it's stupid to want this situation to be done and gone.

I do hope that you hang in there and protect yourself as best you can until things settle down.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Thanks! Let's keep repeating this. Public officials don't want to discuss it.

Lets not.

 

[MuddyTires]

School-age children are more likely to be hit by lightning than die from COVID-19.
School age children more likely to be hit by lightning than die of coronavirus

According to the CDC, there have been 28 deaths of children aged 14 and under from COVID-19 since February 1st, but 100 deaths (nearly 4x as many) of children aged 14 and under from influenza during that same period.
https://data.cdc.gov/widgets/9bhg-hcku

Schools have been opening back up across Europe without issue.
Reopening schools in Denmark did not worsen outbreak, data shows

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1277933547400167424?s=20

Children and COVID-19 | RIVM

How is lockdown being lifted across Europe?

Study after study shows that school-age children also don't spread COVID-19. Here's an article on one of the latest:
School Children Don’t Spread Coronavirus, French Study Shows

Pediatricians across the US and UK are urging that kids get back to school because of the enormous harm that the lockout of schools does to the mental and physical well-being of children, and that harm far outweighs the risk of going back to school.
Children need back-to-school plan urgently, doctors tell Johnson

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2...ons-return-to-in-person-education-in-schools/

 

[BeckyF]

There will be a vaccine within the next several months, don't worry.

Ignore the fools who say everyone will get it anyway. Your life has value, you are important.

Thank You. I’m so scared every time I go out. Masks are not required in my city, as of today. I get very upset when I see people with no masks and NO social distancing.

 

[BeckyF]

I don't think it's stupid to want this situation to be done and gone.

I do hope that you hang in there and protect yourself as best you can until things settle down.

Thank You. I hope I hang in there.

 

[MuddyTires]

I lean towards believing the 744 people who have died today. Double the deaths of yesterday. That is exactly the wrong direction.

Deaths reported on Tuesday are ALWAYS significantly higher than deaths reported on Mondays because of this thing they call the weekend during which there are fewer people responsible for preparing and processing the reports working.

Deaths reported today are down 18% from last Tuesday, and down 40% from four weeks ago. That's the RIGHT direction!

Last week, there were 1,282 deaths reported Sunday through Tuesday. This week, only 1,180. That's the RIGHT direction!

Last week, there were 3,775 deaths reported, down from 4,187 the week before, and the fewest since the week ending March 28. That's the RIGHT direction!

https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily
https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1278133501980786688/photo/1

 

[mickey2942]

Nick Cordero's Wife Amanda Kloots Says She 'Cried All Day' as He Remains in ICU: 'I Broke Big Time'

Day 89 for Nick Cordero, still in ICU.

 

[KALI]

Thank You!!!
The death numbers decreasing are some important to know.
Thank you.

Deaths reported on Tuesday are ALWAYS significantly higher than deaths reported on Mondays because of this thing they call the weekend during which there are fewer people responsible for preparing and processing the reports working.

Deaths reported today are down 18% from last Tuesday, and down 40% from four weeks ago. That's the RIGHT direction!

Last week, there were 1,282 deaths reported Sunday through Tuesday. This week, only 1,180. That's the RIGHT direction!

Last week, there were 3,775 deaths reported, down from 4,187 the week before, and the fewest since the week ending March 28. That's the RIGHT direction!

https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily
https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1278133501980786688/photo/1