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Step backward: Some Michigan bars ordered closed after coronavirus outbreaks

Brewpubs, distilleries, vineyards can remain open

DETROIT – Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer announced Wednesday she is ordering establishments with on-premises retailer liquor licenses that earn more than 70% of their gross receipts from alcohol sales to shut down their indoor bar services until further notice.

Indoor bar service in six of the state’s eight geographical regions will be shut down, excluding the Upper Peninsula and Traverse City Region -- the only two regions in phase five of reopening...
 
  • #82
I’m so pissed, disappointed and weary of this.
Why can’t the U.S. be proactive vs. reactive to coronavirus?
Everything is so 🤬🤬🤬 backward it’s not even funny.
Instead of sending more military doctors and nurses into ground zero in Texas, or throwing drugs and money at the problem in TX, FL, AZ, why not start with the basics?
Mandate masks across the board! Mandate social distancing across the board. If need be violators can be fined.
What were our leaders thinking would happen after lockdown?
We aren’t learning anything from countries who are also dealing with this and how these clusters rise again.

three words: LACK OF LEADERSHIP
 
  • #83
‘We’re slowly dying’: Indoor dining ban a gut punch to some Sacramento-area restaurants
At least 20 Sacramento-area restaurants have permanently closed since the original shelter-in-place order was issued, and more may fold during the takeout- and outdoor-only regression. Hanke said he thinks closures will start piling up in six months to a year as business owners’ finances and patience wear thin.

Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/food-drink/restaurants/article243944812.html#storylink=cpy
 
  • #84
We will never get tired of saying that the best way out of this pandemic is to take a comprehensive approach.

Find, isolate, test and care for every case, trace and quarantine every contact, equip and train health workers and educate and empower communities to protect themselves and others.

We can only achieve this at the local level.

This message is the same message we hear from CDC. Congress has allotted trillions of dollars to states, local health clinics and localities for Covid.

Each locality has the funds to find , test and isolate. My local government received 4.4 million, chose to do a few upgrades to public buildings and the rest for small business recovery. No amount of begging or pleading could secure funding for testing, hotel rooms for isolation or masks for the community. The rebuttal...its a health dept problem.

We can manage this virus!! We have the tools CDC, Dr. Birx/Fauci, WHO have all provide guidance, Congress gave trillions. Action must be in a local level for those infected, it can't be managed from a national level. It takes community-based action. Local leaders speaking up, encouraging masks, social distancing, providing testing, community education, intense contract tracing, providing isolation. All I'm hearing from local leaders is ...go eat out, shop and support our businesses.

Are others members seeing local responses?

All my opinion and wondering what's happening in other local communities.
 
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@Simply Southern the hypocrisy in my town is epic! On the front page of the newspaper here, is a prominent article about Covid-19, wearing masks, public distancing...and the commissioner in the photo is NOT wearing a mask!

WTH?!
 
  • #86
Good point. Also, tourists flock to beaches, they stay at hotels, they eat at restaurants, they go into bars and shops. So it's not like people show up, socially distance on the beach, then leave (which presumably would be relatively safe). Several beaches emerged as hot spots for covid spread.

Yes I agree. People are also filling up mass transit, parking lots, and sidewalks to get to these open beaches and 4th of July events, such as the big one is Washington DC. where 300,000+ are expected.
 
  • #87
We can only achieve this at the local level.

This message is the same message we hear from CDC. Congress has allotted trillions of dollars to states, local health clinics and localities for Covid.

Each locality has the funds to find , test and isolate. My local government received 4.4 million, chose to do a few upgrades to public buildings and the rest for small business recovery. No amount of begging or pleading could secure funding for testing, hotel rooms for isolation or masks for the community. The rebuttal...its a health dept problem.

We can manage thus virus!! We have the tools, CDC, Dr. Birx/Fauci, WHO have all provide guidance, Congress gave trillions. Action must be in a local level for those infected, it can't be managed from a national level. It takes community-based action. Local leaders speaking up, encouraging masks, social distancing, providing testing, community education, intense contract tracing, providing isolation. All I'm hearing from local leaders is ...go eat out, shop and support our businesses.

Are others members seeing local responses?

All my opinion and wondering what's happening in other local communities.

I read awhile back that Indiana had chosen to carry out tracing on the state level. We have a lot of smaller county health departments that were completely overwhelmed early on trying to trace. Ideally, this allows our health depts to concentrate on other tasks. Jmo
 
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I’m so pissed, disappointed and weary of this.
Why can’t the U.S. be proactive vs. reactive to coronavirus?
Everything is so 🤬🤬🤬 backward it’s not even funny.
Instead of sending more military doctors and nurses into ground zero in Texas, or throwing drugs and money at the problem in TX, FL, AZ, why not start with the basics?
Mandate masks across the board! Mandate social distancing across the board. If need be violators can be fined.
What were our leaders thinking would happen after lockdown?
We aren’t learning anything from countries who are also dealing with this and how these clusters rise again.

I feel the US has been proactive at national level, providing CDC guidance and trillions in funding to states specially to fight Covid. Money from states were rolled down to localities to fight Covid.

I would love to see a national mask mandate, but do not see it enforceable in the current state of LE, or cities and states making it political, it would wind up in the US Supreme Court for sure.

Moo...until local governments understand and acccept they are the front line in controlling the pandemic and OWN it. I'm not sure we can get a handle on this. Mask can only be controlled/enforced at a local level. Testing is controlled at a local level. Contract tracing is controlled at a local level. Local levels got millions of dollars. I'm asking where's the money and the answers aren't including any of the CDC control measures. Its all in recovery. We can not recover til we fix this.

Moo....
 
  • #90
Alabama students throwing 'COVID parties' to see who gets infected: Officials

“Students in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 have been attending parties in the city and surrounding area as part of a disturbing contest to see who can catch the virus first, a city council member told ABC News on Wednesday.”

:eek:

He posted his regrets over attending a party in California. The next day, he died of coronavirus — CNN

“A friend who was at the party reached out to Macias to say he had coronavirus, and he was aware of the diagnosis when he attended the gathering but didn't think he could infect anyone because he had no symptoms, Lopez said. “

“Our understanding is that a gentleman had called him and said 'hey I was at the party, I knew I was positive. I didn't tell anybody,'" Lopez said. "I think the gentleman was regretting not telling everybody, and he was calling people who were at the party to recommend they get tested.”
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Knowing that you tested positive and infect your friends, killing one.
:(
If this isn’t proof that masks are a necessity, I don’t know what is....
 
  • #91
It should be a “gut punch” nationwide. Indoor dining and bars are helping breed this virus.

I don’t feel safe at outdoor bars and restaurants either.
I feel sorry for all of the people who will lose their jobs and for all of the business owners whose life savings and retirement funds are gone.
 
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I feel sorry for all of the people who will lose their jobs and for all of the business owners whose life savings and retirement funds are gone.

I do, too. As a small business owner I can tell you I work harder than any company employee. It's just a fact. And to have your business yanked away from you, through no fault of your own, has got to be soul crushing. Jmo
 
  • #94
Party Guests Won’t Talk After 9 Test Positive. Now They Face Subpoenas.

On June 17, a crowd of up to 100 people, most of them in their early 20s, attended a party at a home in Rockland County, N.Y.

The event violated a state order in effect at the time that capped gatherings at 10 people in an effort to slow the coronavirus’s spread.

For local officials, that was just the start of the problem.

The party’s host, who was showing signs of being sick at the time, later tested positive for the virus. So did eight guests.

County officials, eager to keep the cluster from growing, dispatched disease tracers to try to learn who else might have been exposed to the virus at the party.

The tracers hit a wall.

“My staff has been told that a person does not wish to, or have to, speak to my disease investigators,” Dr. Patricia Schnabel Ruppert, the county’s health commissioner said. Of those being contacted about the party, she added: “They hang up. They deny being at the party even though we have their names from another party attendee.”

Frustrated by the response, county officials took the unusual step of issuing subpoenas to eight people who they believe were at the June 17 party. Those who do not comply and share what they know by Thursday will face fines of $2,000 a day, officials said.


I commend this community!! They seemed determined to control this outbreak. It will be interesting see if this lands in the court system.
 
  • #95
There's an interesting graph in this article that indicates arrests from protests were way higher in Harris County than other areas which could indicate why the CV cases are higher in Harris now also.

Texas Black Lives Matter Protesters Were Largely Local and Nonviolent, According to Arrest Data




Austin: Austin Police Department; Dallas: Dallas Police Department; El Paso: El Paso Police Department; Houston: Harris County District Attorney’s Office; San Antonio: San Antonio Police Department



Abbott Suspends Elective Surgeries in 4 More Texas Counties Due to COVID-19

This article lists the 4 Texas counties that have suspended elective surgery plus 4 more that are joining them. Haven't heard anything about temporary hospitals so they must think they can cope with just that measure.

"The suspension of elective surgeries includes Cameron, Hidalgo, Nueces and Webb counties. That's on top of Harris, Bexar, Travis and Dallas counties, which Abbott announced Friday.

The goal is to make more room for COVID-19 patients. According to the Texas Department of State Health Services, on Tuesday around 6,533 Texans had been hospitalized for COVID-19, which was another record-breaking number."

More info at link.
 
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I feel sorry for all of the people who will lose their jobs and for all of the business owners whose life savings and retirement funds are gone.

We are all suffering, financially and emotionally, while trying to stay healthy.

Also, the restaurant sector is not the only business losing money right now.
 
  • #97
We are all suffering, financially and emotionally, while trying to stay healthy.

Also, the restaurant sector is not the only business losing money right now.

I didn't realize you lost your business. I'm sorry. :(
 
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@Simply Southern the hypocrisy in my town is epic! On the front page of the newspaper here, is a prominent article about Covid-19, wearing masks, public distancing...and the commissioner in the photo is NOT wearing a mask!

WTH?!

Thanks for sharing. Is your locality committed to testing, tracing and mask?
 
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