Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #65

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  • #601
Our air conditioner was installed: it went fairly smoothly. the guys wore masks when they were outside and on our first floor. one of the guys couldn't stand it on for too long in the basement so he took it off and i understand that. I was upstairs most of the time but i came down to check on my husband (to make sure he was doing things the right way)- he had his mask on and was socially distancing. None of the guys used the restroom (thank God)- one of the guys did sit at the kitchen table to get payment and such: i disinfected the table and chair with alcohol. these guys brought a couple dogs along and they were adorable. All in all i think it went well and we did it safely- and Voila! we have air conditioning-- Thank you for all your suggestions- they were all good ones---- it is just too bad something we used to take for granted without much fuss has become a source of stress.
 
  • #602
Yes. That is a challenge in this country. It’s sad that witnessing devastation is what it takes for some to finally take measure to protect people. Many have died and will die as a result and we can’t reverse that.

However, I am confident that this pandemic is going to recede and we will get back to normal. Changed, but mostly normal. And I truly don’t think it’s going to be years. Just looking at other epidemics and pandemics sort of shows us that.

I actually don't agree with that assessment. There are far more people now, then there were during previous pandemics. That excess population is what will keep this pandemic swirling around until there is a vaccine.

The other issue is travel. Even now, we have flights going back and forth internationally. That was not an issue in previous pandemics.

I have a very dark, pessimistic view. The economy is floating now, and prepare for the free fall after the summer. The job market is going to crash as well. I will say that I hope that I am wrong.
 
  • #603
I actually don't agree with that assessment. There are far more people now, then there were during previous pandemics. That excess population is what will keep this pandemic swirling around until there is a vaccine.

The other issue is travel. Even now, we have flights going back and forth internationally. That was not an issue in previous pandemics.

I have a very dark, pessimistic view. The economy is floating now, and prepare for the free fall after the summer. The job market is going to crash as well. I will say that I hope that I am wrong.

I am really concerned about the so called 2nd wave this fall and we are not even out of the first wave. This virus is supposed to do not so much damage in the heat of the summer and supposedly is even more efficient in cold weather and then of course the flu will be coming a long in the fall. None of this bodes well . I try not to think dark thoughts about this pandemic but with the virus surging lately and people doing whatever they feel like doing without thought for the well being of others, it is depressing.
 
  • #604
He attended without a mask and he knew he was taking a chance.

***for anyone who has read my posts through this...
My 84 year old daddy has FINALLY conceded!!!
He is afraid now and he isn't going to leave the house until further notice!!!
(Little party in my heart)
And... my mother in law's cancer is BACK! She is 85 and has beaten cancer 4 times, but the PET scan showed 3 new tumors on her collar bone and both lungs...
Not real sure how the doctors are gonna handle it this time.
I'm really worried about her having to go to multiple appointments for chemo/radiation etc...
The doctor kinda sounded like due to COVID, he wasn't going to do anything for her at this time because the danger of COVID is more likely to kill her before the cancer can.
Stressing a lil bit for her and my husband.
Moo

Glad about your father deciding to take care of himself but so sad about your mother-in-law.

It is surreal to realize how glad I am that neither my partner nor I have living parents or grandparents.
 
  • #605
Trump Is Throwing a Mount Rushmore Fireworks Show. What Could Go Wrong?

There will be no social distancing at the gathering, for which 7,500 tickets have been distributed.
Former superintendent Cheryl Schreier wrote that the ceremony is a bad idea:

Thanks to an extremely dry summer, South Dakota faces a higher than usual risk of wildfires. A former fire management officer for Mount Rushmore and numerous national parks warned that the fireworks show would be “ill-advised” given the dry conditions. The National Park Service has heeded similar warnings in previous years, canceling the fireworks in 2002 and 2010 at least in part because of high fire danger. And the park service has continued to cite concern over devastating wildfires as a reason for discontinuing the event until now.

She also notes that, in the event of some kind of catastrophe, evacuating the large crowd would be highly difficult, writing, “The anticipated traffic congestion and gridlock could last for hours before and after the event, compounded by visitors who are not familiar with the area.”

The wildfire danger posed in this particular moment was made clear earlier this week when a blaze erupted about six miles away from the monument. It took 117 fire fighters from three states to get the fire, which burned 60 acres, under control. And that one started without fireworks.

Earlier this year, Trump dismissed concerns about wildfires at Mount Rushmore. “What can burn? It’s stone,” he said.

There is also some concern about fireworks contaminating the water supply at the monument.

SMH and praying there will not be any fires---
 
  • #606
Trump's Mt. Rushmore 4th of July Event Will Have No Social Distancing

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This is what a coronavirus spread looks like in its preliminary stages ... chairs crammed into the same area together, inches apart for the folks who will be celebrating tonight.

The site is Mt. Rushmore in South Dakota, where the Governor has proudly proclaimed there will be NO social distancing and optional masks at tonight's event with President Trump.

The closer they cram the chairs together, the better the publicity shots are for how popular the event is.
 
  • #607
There are unfortunately some people who are so hard headed and/or just don't get it / think it's a hoax, they won't comply otherwise. They asked for it, now we got it.
Like the people who are gleefully posting on NextDoor about how they aren’t wearing masks and how crowded the grocery store is today.
 
  • #608
Like the people who are gleefully posting on NextDoor about how they aren’t wearing masks and how crowded the grocery store is today.
I know, right? SMH
The more people wearing masks, the more crowded the store, the better to stay away from them and stay home.
 
  • #609
He attended without a mask and he knew he was taking a chance.

***for anyone who has read my posts through this...
My 84 year old daddy has FINALLY conceded!!!
He is afraid now and he isn't going to leave the house until further notice!!!
(Little party in my heart)
And... my mother in law's cancer is BACK! She is 85 and has beaten cancer 4 times, but the PET scan showed 3 new tumors on her collar bone and both lungs...
Not real sure how the doctors are gonna handle it this time.
I'm really worried about her having to go to multiple appointments for chemo/radiation etc...
The doctor kinda sounded like due to COVID, he wasn't going to do anything for her at this time because the danger of COVID is more likely to kill her before the cancer can.
Stressing a lil bit for her and my husband.
Moo
Sounds like your dad is on board now! It’s stressful with parents, I worry more about them than I do myself. I’m sorry to hear about your MIL’s cancer, hopefully they come up with a plan in the midst of everything going on.
 
  • #610
I don't think that's any kind of constant, reliable formula. It may have been true in mid-March, when there was very little testing and it was spreading rapidly in some places like New York. In Mexico, because there's a high death toll and hardly any testing, officials have cited 17 to 1.

It really depends on how much testing, and how active the spread is, as detected through hospital admissions. It means the testing can't possibly keep up with the cases, and has ceased to be a tool that can be used.

Absolutely
There's an opinion and statistic for all sorts of things
With COVID-19 they change rapidly

I was providing a source to negate that it was a rumor
I have not heard of that stat. If no link it is considered rumour.

Nothing more, nothing less
 
  • #611
My long story about singing with the church choir during COVID (TL/DR)

Last Sunday about 8:45 a.m., about 16 of our church choir members--including my husband and me-- gathered in a parking deck near the church. The purpose was to record the group singing two songs, and the recording could be inserted into one or more of the online worship services. Also present were the choir director, a person recording the event with a phone, and an associate pastor.

It was a very warm and humid day, even that early, but we had a roof overhead so were not in the sun. We were spread out at least 6 feet apart and we all were wearing masks. There was air moving through the space.

Unfortunately, the heat, humidity, standing, and trying to sing through a mask were too much for my DH. After a while, he had to sit down and pull his mask down so he could breathe. But instead of getting better, he got worse, vomited, and passed out. Various choir members rushed to help him... bless them, they forgot about distancing, and so did I. By then our pastor had already called for an ambulance. (My memory of this time is a blur but I have recollections from others to fill in blanks.)

I followed the ambulance in our car and was able to park at the entrance to the ER after going through a screening tent in the parking lot. I was allowed to join him in the ER, thank God! The medical center had changed their visiting rules only a week before. The ER wasn't busy at all, and we were told COVID or potential COVID patients were in a separate part of the ER.

The ER doctor eventually told us that DH apparently had vasovagal syncope, triggered by heat, humidity, standing, and trying to sing with a mask on.* (see more info below)

He had a heart rhythm problem, which was thought to be due to an antiemetic drug given to him in the ambulance. But he has a history of heart disease and a prosthetic valve, and he needed to be monitored. So, in mid afternoon DH was admitted to an observation floor in the hospital and put in a nice large room by himself with curtained sliding doors. He seemed to be doing pretty well so I eventually went home to eat something and get some sleep. I was exhausted and very worried.

On Monday I was not allowed to visit him until 1 p.m., but we were able to talk on the phone. Fortunately, the arrhythmia had cleared up, and his echocardiogram looked good. Around 4 p.m. a doctor came by to go through his records and talk with us, and told us my husband could go home! Yippee!

But first they applied a heart monitor patch to his chest that he is supposed to wear for two weeks. If he has any heart related symptoms like shortness of breath, dizziness, chest pain, etc., he is supposed to push a button on the device and write down what is going on. So far he's had no symptoms, so that's good.

Because he was admitted, he was given a COVID test and we got the result 24 hours later: Negative.

He had given blood at Red Cross about 2 weeks ago, and they tested his blood for COVID antibodies: Negative.

That's a rather abbreviated version of what all went on, but I wanted to share it. I had so hoped we could avoid having to go to the ER or to the hospital during this pandemic, but it seems to have turned out OK. The hospital staff know what they are doing and I felt he was in good hands throughout. I was so happy to bring him home!! :) He saw his doctor yesterday, and he's doing well. :):) :)
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*From MayoClinic.com: "The vasovagal syncope trigger causes your heart rate and blood pressure to drop suddenly. That leads to reduced blood flow to your brain, causing you to briefly lose consciousness." ... "Vasovagal syncope occurs when the part of your nervous system that regulates heart rate and blood pressure malfunctions in response to a trigger, such as the sight of blood.

Your heart rate slows, and the blood vessels in your legs widen (dilate.) This allows blood to pool in your legs, which lowers your blood pressure. Combined, the drop in blood pressure and slowed heart rate quickly reduce blood flow to your brain, and you faint."
 
  • #612
The closer they cram the chairs together, the better the publicity shots are for how popular the event is.
I wonder if it has occurred to the party leaders that they are quite possibly killing off their voters right before an election?
 
  • #613
Trump's Mt. Rushmore 4th of July Event Will Have No Social Distancing

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This is what a coronavirus spread looks like in its preliminary stages ... chairs crammed into the same area together, inches apart for the folks who will be celebrating tonight.

The site is Mt. Rushmore in South Dakota, where the Governor has proudly proclaimed there will be NO social distancing and optional masks at tonight's event with President Trump.

That is criminal.

(jmo, but possibly also a fact)
 
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  • #614
That is criminal.
If people want to attend and have the governor's approval, that's hardly criminal. Other states can only dream of having Covid-19 under control like Kristi Noem and SD.
 
  • #615
That is criminal.

I find it absolutely delusional on so many levels. But, hey, people are already chomping at the bit to pack into Disney world, in Orlando, in July, while wearing a mask. There isn't enough Dole Whip to cure that type of insanity.
 
  • #616
I am...I get my little cookie monster for his first overnight at 5pm! He is 17 mos old!!! Pammaw is so excited. My heart is happy.
Moo

Have fun!
 
  • #617
Dallas County reports more than 1,000 new COVID-19 cases, setting single-day record

DALLAS - Dallas County reported more than 1,000 new COVID-19 cases on Friday, a stunning number showing a serious outbreak is taking place in one of Texas’ most populous areas.

Health officials reported 1,085 new cases and six deaths. It’s the second day in a row a new record was set for new cases reported in a single day – Thursday there were 708 new cases.

“We are entering into a very critical time in the fight against COVID-19 and are seeing an explosive surge in community spread,” said Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins.
 
  • #618
If people want to attend and have the governor's approval, that's hardly criminal. Other states can only dream of having Covid-19 under control like Kristi Noem and SD.

This is a far bigger issue than doing something counter-indicated during a pandemic with the governor's approval. The whole world is sacrificing their personal pleasures to get CoVid eradicated, to save lives, and to protect health care workers. It is the governor's duty to all Americans and all humanity to make selfless, sound judgements, and not trifle with people's lives. This is not the time for reckless behaviour, especially not from our leaders.
 
  • #619
So much for this “going away in July”.
 
  • #620
Trump's Mt. Rushmore 4th of July Event Will Have No Social Distancing

46ceabef248a4ebd81adbee9ee3e2171_md.jpg


This is what a coronavirus spread looks like in its preliminary stages ... chairs crammed into the same area together, inches apart for the folks who will be celebrating tonight.

The site is Mt. Rushmore in South Dakota, where the Governor has proudly proclaimed there will be NO social distancing and optional masks at tonight's event with President Trump.

omg.

Stop this madness! Freaking insane.

This is soo unfair to everyone. :(
 
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