Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #66

[CSIDreamer]

The observation about type A came out of china all the way back in March.
Relationship between the ABO Blood Group and the COVID-19 Susceptibility

Others, including Americans, have looked into it and are not impressed that it has any relevance.
The Truth About Blood Types and the Coronavirus

I wouldn't worry about it. jmo

I vividly remember freaking out back in March. A- here.

 

[SA55]

Personal rant/worry. Please tell me if I'm over reacting here. I seem to be the only one in my family following any sort of "rules"...brother flies in from Dallas, another brother flies in from Orlando (all hot spots) one sister has a lake house, everyone gathers including college age nephews with girlfriends, I see photos on facebook of them all on the pontoon boat....text my sister that it looks like grand central station there...she says "we are distancing and wearing masks" of course I see none of that in photos inside and outside of house...then the two brothers go over to my 89 year old fathers house...then I see more photos of one of my brother's wives has gone home to her family and her and her sisters are all posing for photos side by side with mom and dad and she is the mother of the two nephews...smh...what the ???
Young nephews and their girlfriends come and go to the lakehouse by the way the others are staying there.
I try to explain that even though my sister who owns the lake house has been working from home, only shops a few times a month with a mask...that she has no idea all the people everyone else has been in contact with and so on and so on...we are all over 50 too...not exactly young, (except for the 2 nephews and thier gfs) I just think that monkey see...monkey do...we have really gotten so complacent in our country.

I can so relate to you - perhaps one of the worst personal losses I've experienced during this pandemic is the distance (figuratively) that it has put between me and my family. I try so hard to listen and not respond, but that isn't my strong attribute. Sometimes, a response just bursts out. A couple weeks back, my 85 yr old Mother and I had a very emotional disagreement. According to her, it's all political, she doesn't believe anything "they" say, it's only old people who have already lived their lives, she is "ready to go" and stated she is only taking up space and air for a younger person. It broke my heart and I didn't argue with her, but broke down in tears and told her I couldn't listen to that and I was hanging up. That is what I did - I told her I love her dearly and in tears I hung up on my Moma because I just couldn't stand to listen any longer. Heartbroken that obviously she's so scared and won't acknowledge it and have a calm conversation, heartbroken that she can't think about her children and grandchildren and great grandchildren and all of us that love her so very much. Most of all, heartbroken that she doesn't value her own life and doesn't feel as if she has anything left to give to others. That is hard for me to explain - but that is who I am, I think we all have so much to give to others needing us and our help.
My two sisters, an RN and a school teacher are in denial - this is where she gets her information. One sister repeatedly has stated to me " I wouldn't break the law" - meaning they stay just barely under any mandates. None of them wear a mask, practice social distancing or are being cautious. My nephew sent me a wedding invitation this week for end of the month (July) to an outdoor wedding, which seems to have already morphed into a large wedding although started out with immediate family and closest of friends. All the nieces and nephew and even my oldest daughter, along with 2 of my grandchildren, have already had trips to the beach in the past month. They all continue and have the entire time, to visit each other and not take precautions. I dearly love my family, even if I don't understand them and hate the thought of them becoming a statistic in this deadly pandemic simply by being careless.
My rant this morning - and I don't think it's even helped me any by putting it out there.
But I do understand you and share your concerns for your family - I'm right there with you.

 

[mickey2942]

I don't believe it is productive to victim blame, shame and name those who have caught CV19. MOO.

How about it is a Public Health issue? It is not "victim blaming". People have a right to know when they have been exposed to Covid.

 

[SouthAussie]

Is the US testing more people than anywhere else?

This is a fact checking article that is old but probably still valid. I am looking to find something to support the statement made that 40 million tests have been done in the states.

Total COVID-19 tests

The US currently ranks about 8th for the amount of tests conducted per 1,000.000 people.


COVID-19 testing rate by country | Statista

 

[CharlestonGal]

Is the US testing more people than anywhere else?

This is a fact checking article that is old but probably still valid. I am looking to find something to support the statement made that 40 million tests have been done in the states. I see that there are nearly 3 million positive cases at present.

The information is easy to find. USA is #26 in the world in tests/million.

Coronavirus Update (Live): 11,420,317 Cases and 534,387 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

 

[mickey2942]

RSBM.

Just think about how the jet setters are suffering throughout this. They probably had a massive villa or private yacht waiting for them.

I have a cousin who travels constantly for work, Bangkok, Hong Kong, Macau. Staying at home, it is like he is on withdrawal from heroin.

His business is doing okay. He is running everything from home. Which means, that things CAN get done over phone, e-mail.

 

[Tadpole12]

We'll be seeing more masks worn in our region (N. Ontario) sarting tomorrow. It's very interesting to see how this requirement is being issued. The mandate is not to individuals, but to business establishments. They must ensure that anyone entering their business must be wearing a mask. I think it reduces the potential for a lot of pushback from customers who may want to expound upon their "rights". It reminds me of how our daughter, as a child, wouldn't want to wear her seat belt. I could say, "Fine, you don't need to wear your seat belt, but the car doesn't start until you are fastened in."

So store owners can do sidewalk sales for customers who won't mask up, or just refuse to serve them. And if business owners are reluctant to comply, they will already have received a notice from their liability insurance provider stating that if they don't comply with the Public Health regulations, they are not insured for any outcomes.


"The Medical Officer of Health for Public Health, today is issuing instructions to owners and operators of commercial establishments, as well as public transit, to have policies in place to stop people from entering if they are not wearing a face covering. The instructions are being issued under the authority of the provincial Emergency Management and Civil Protection Act."


https://www.phsd.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Letter_All_Employers_2020-07-02.pdf

Ty for the update mj.
I wonder what religions reasons would prohibit the wearing of a mask.
I can understand if religious garb, costume, restricts a mask from being functional.

For customers seen removing their face masks "a verbal reminder to customers" of the requirement.

 

[squareandrabbet]

I vividly remember freaking out back in March. A- here.

I’m A-neg too and feeling fine

 

[Lilibet]

I can so relate to you - perhaps one of the worst personal losses I've experienced during this pandemic is the distance (figuratively) that it has put between me and my family. I try so hard to listen and not respond, but that isn't my strong attribute. Sometimes, a response just bursts out. A couple weeks back, my 85 yr old Mother and I had a very emotional disagreement. According to her, it's all political, she doesn't believe anything "they" say, it's only old people who have already lived their lives, she is "ready to go" and stated she is only taking up space and air for a younger person. It broke my heart and I didn't argue with her, but broke down in tears and told her I couldn't listen to that and I was hanging up. That is what I did - I told her I love her dearly and in tears I hung up on my Moma because I just couldn't stand to listen any longer. Heartbroken that obviously she's so scared and won't acknowledge it and have a calm conversation, heartbroken that she can't think about her children and grandchildren and great grandchildren and all of us that love her so very much. Most of all, heartbroken that she doesn't value her own life and doesn't feel as if she has anything left to give to others. That is hard for me to explain - but that is who I am, I think we all have so much to give to others needing us and our help.
My two sisters, an RN and a school teacher are in denial - this is where she gets her information. One sister repeatedly has stated to me " I wouldn't break the law" - meaning they stay just barely under any mandates. None of them wear a mask, practice social distancing or are being cautious. My nephew sent me a wedding invitation this week for end of the month (July) to an outdoor wedding, which seems to have already morphed into a large wedding although started out with immediate family and closest of friends. All the nieces and nephew and even my oldest daughter, along with 2 of my grandchildren, have already had trips to the beach in the past month. They all continue and have the entire time, to visit each other and not take precautions. I dearly love my family, even if I don't understand them and hate the thought of them becoming a statistic in this deadly pandemic simply by being careless.
My rant this morning - and I don't think it's even helped me any by putting it out there.
But I do understand you and share your concerns for your family - I'm right there with you.

@SA55 and @tabitha111 You both have my heartfelt sympathy. What you are going through with your family, knowing there is nothing you can do about it, is so painful. Sending hugs. Keep on keeping on...and staying safe. You are setting a good example, even if no one pays heed.

 

[JerseyGirl]

WHO reports record rise in global coronavirus cases

As July Fourth celebrations got into full swing, the U.S. recorded 57,718 daily new cases and 661 deaths on Saturday, taking the total to 2,789,678 cases and 129,305 deaths.

With 11,458 new cases of the virus reported Saturday, Florida shattered its single-day record for new coronavirus cases. It neared New York's highest daily tally of 11,571 set in April.

As the country is grappling with a rising number of cases, some states had to halt their re-openings and hospitals in hot spots are becoming overwhelmed.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump will be stepping back from being the “daily voice” of the coronavirus response. During a speech at Mount Rushmore to celebrate July 4th on Friday, he only briefly mentioned the virus, as the White House readies a new message for the nation on coronavirus: learn to live with it.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Despite lack of leadership, in this case, not only from the very top, but from governors, et al, i believe most people do know the best course of action (masks, distancing and no bars or crowds or large get-togethers especially indoors): however, there are enough
people that are refusing to follow those guidelines, and thereby putting all of us at risk. As long as there is lack of leadership, combined with people who refuse to do what is known to mitigate the damage of this virus, we are in deep---chit.

I know. The fact that most Americans have no trust in the government must be worked around somehow, imo. I don't know that an independent, impartial commission of experts would necessarily work, but what we are doing now is definitely not working. It's seriously time to try something else. Perhaps look to Australia, New Zealand, Vietnam, S Korea and other places that have seemingly conquered this problem? I don't know what the answer is, but the current state of affairs in the US is intolerable and unacceptable. jmo

 

[JerseyGirl]

Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn said it is “too early to tell” whether Florida will be a safe place for the Republican National Convention next month amid a surge in Covid-19 cases there.

“I think it’s too early to tell,” Hahn said on CNN’s “State of the Union. “We’ll have to see how this unfolds in Florida and around the country.”
Hahn is a member of the White House Coronoavirus Task Force.

Coronavirus live updates from around the world

 

[squareandrabbet]

I've been wondering where Drs Birx, Fauci and Redfield have been. I would really like to hear from them about the best way to move forward in this quickly deteriorating situation in the US.

IMO, it's time to form a completely independent body of experts to tackle this problem and inform the public as to the best course of action. jmo

dr. Fauci testified before Congress just this past week, and I believe at least part of it was covered by media.

NBC is reporting that Dr. Birx will brief the President before, well, tomorrow.

VP Pence has also been querying state governors. I think it sounds like they are on top of the situation; though it is tough to keep straight from day to day, with constant new weird articles on ‘oceans sneezing’, ‘COVID toothbrushes’ from toilet splash back (haven’t we known this about regular toothbrushes and toilets for awhile - even with lid shut, droplets spray about?), and I don’t know what-all.

 

[JerseyGirl]

He said there has been 40 million tests. So if that is correct, then 3 million have been positive (cases). 3 out of 40 is 7.5% positive. Then out of 3 million positives, 132k have died. That's 44 per 1000 so a case fatality rate of 4.4%.

To me it looks like that is how he came up with the 99% statistic but please check my numbers.

This is me working it out with what we know. Obviously POTUS is going to have his own statisticians and he will know the whole world will be analysing this today.

The states and what they count as a test is what is the variable in this but to immediately accuse him of lying is outrageous IMO.

FDA commissioner does not defend Trump's claim that 99% of Covid-19 cases are "harmless"

Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn declined to defend President Trump’s claim from his July 4 speech that 99% of Covid-19 cases are “harmless."

Hahn repeatedly refused to say whether the Trump's claim is true or false.

When Hahn was presented Centers for Disease Control and Prevention figures showing only a third of Covid-19 cases are asymptomatic, Hahn did not defend the President’s claim about how many coronavirus cases go unnoticed by the infected.

“What I’ll say is that we have data in the White House Task Force. Those data show us that this is a serious problem. People need to take it seriously,” Hahn said.

Coronavirus live updates from around the world

 

[SouthAussie]

He said there has been 40 million tests. So if that is correct, then 3 million have been positive (cases). 3 out of 40 is 7.5% positive. Then out of 3 million positives, 132k have died. That's 44 per 1000 so a case fatality rate of 4.4%.

To me it looks like that is how he came up with the 99% statistic but please check my numbers.

This is me working it out with what we know. Obviously POTUS is going to have his own statisticians and he will know the whole world will be analysing this today.

The states and what they count as a test is what is the variable in this but to immediately accuse him of lying is outrageous IMO.

I think that you may be missing the point. What was said is that 99% of cases are totally harmless.

I don't know about you, but many of us see a whole lot of harm going on, as a couple of us have tried to explain.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I think that you may be missing the point. What was said is that 99% of cases are totally harmless.

I don't know about you, but many of us see a whole lot of harm going on, as a couple of us have tried to explain.

Thank you for saying that all the way from Australia. It's nice to see such support and concern from halfway around the world. Those of you down under have done such a fantastic job with this. Much love from America.

 

[tresir2012]

The JHU link I posted states that WHO does not recommend reopening if more than a 5% positivity rate is achieved so that is an indicator of where they stand on the issue.

 

[SouthAussie]

<RSBM>
...... as the White House readies a new message for the nation on coronavirus: learn to live with it.

I see some horrible times ahead. Just read a few details in the following article. The message is going to be high survival rates, and a study they will reveal shows good therapeutics ...... doesn't sound as if any health promotion is going to happen. And the President will be distancing himself from any of the conversation about it.

'We need to live with it': White House readies new message for the nation on coronavirus

 

[ilovewings]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed> -- it is a fact that too many people are being irresponsible by not wearing masks, not social distancing, attending crowded places such as bars, restaurants, or any type of large gathering. These people are preventing the virus from being contained and in fact causing spread of this horrible virus. Worst yet, if they don't have symptoms, they spread the disease to others.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Is the US testing more people than anywhere else?

This is a fact checking article that is old but probably still valid. I am looking to find something to support the statement made that 40 million tests have been done in the states. I see that there are nearly 3 million positive cases at present.

Worldmeters has us at roughly 37 million tests.

China shows 90 million tests.
The US at roughly 37 million.
Russia follows us with 21 million roughly.

United States Coronavirus: 2,936,904 Cases and 132,335 Deaths - Worldometer