Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #66

[CharlestonGal]

Smh. It's a slow motion trainwreck. And my state is #3.

Soaring U.S. coronavirus cases, hospitalizations overshadow July 4 celebrations

In addition to rising cases, an alarming percentage of tests are coming back positive. The World Health Organization considers a positivity rate above 5% to be cause for concern because it suggests there are more cases in the community that have yet to be uncovered.

Ten states averaged double-digit positivity rates over the past week – Arizona (26%), Florida (18%), South Carolina (17%), Nevada (14%), Alabama (14%), Texas (14%), Mississippi (13%), Georgia (13%), Idaho (11%) and Kansas (10%), according to The COVID Tracking Project here a volunteer-run effort to track the outbreak.

 

[Satchie]

Agreed. 1st step is travel bans from states >5%. Keep them out until they get it together. jmo

IMO 1st step is don't get complacent and think it's over and you can all go back to life as it was before.

 

[155etta]

#IamSA55's mother (No I'm not, but I GET IT! I feel the same way many days)

I vent and I'm very very depressed and have so many feelings as she does. I live alone, and I'm very depressed. I need help and support.

PLEASE Let's all pick up the phone and support folks like "mother"... please please please please please. I beg of you all!

I've been diagnosed with seasonal affective disorder (SAD). I use light therapy and take antidepressants from about Thanksgiving til Easter. When the sun comes back out again and things start greening up I can start tapering off of them for late spring, summer, and fall. Not this year. Still on them. Hate to think of where I'd be at without them. The struggle is real. MOO.

 

[Victoria Chambers]

What can they do tho Victoria? That looks like a street in Soho. The bar managers cant stop people coming thro. People have got to take responsibility themselves. But after a few drinks, they wont

The bar managers need to stick to the guidelines that have been set in place. With customers and tables so far apart. Since we are still in the grips of a Pandemic, hand on heart, if that were my pub I would've pulled the shutters! My children lost their Great Grandfather to this in April so perhaps I take it a tad more personally, have more respect and whatnot. But it doesn't have to be that way,. For everybody to lose somebody in order to take it serious. Or does it? X

 

[Victoria Chambers]

IMO 1st step is don't get complacent and think it's over and you can all go back to life as it was before.

You're right about the complacency. I find myself using that word more and more often lately X

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Kate Garraway's husband has opened his eyes after three months in coma

Great news! Kate Garraways husband Derek Draper has woken from his coma. Hopefully he will make a full recovery.

''Good Morning Britain presenter Kate Garraway has revealed her husband Derek Draper has opened his eyes after spending three months in a coma.

Kate says Derek, 52, has emerged from a deeper coma into a 'minimum state of consciousness' and in a recent breakthrough he has opened his eyes.''

Brilliant news, fingers crossed. He has a long road to recovery ahead of him but hopefully it is one he can finally start to travel. Kate's updates have been heartbreaking.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

'I accept full responsibility:' Calvary Chapel pastor talks church's COVID-19 outbreak

"I accept full responsibility. I'm the leader of the church,” said Pastor Arbaugh.

When the church reopened its doors they implemented all COVID-19 required precautions.

"We kept all of the rules to the letter of the law,” said Pastor Arbaugh.

Last Wednesday the church immediately closed and was thoroughly cleaned after Paster Arbaugh and other leaders of the church found out some in the congregation had tested positive for COVID-19.

"We've had a lot of people, mostly staff is where it started and then it kind of spread out,” said Pastor Arbaugh.

Now at least one person is on a ventilator. However, Pastor Arbaugh said that member was already in the hospital. At least 50 others have tested positive for the virus, including Pastor Arbaugh and his wife although he said they have both since recovered. He said the majority have reported mild symptoms and he has been in constant communication with people within the church.

"If I could have done it all over again I would have said 'no hugging’,” said Pastor Arbaugh.

Pastor Arbaugh said when they initially reopened many people were happy to be back and were giving one another hugs.

He said not stopping that is something he accepts responsibility for and stricter rules will be in place when they eventually reopen.

Good for him for accepting responsibility.... though, to me, every adult should take responsibility for their own actions.

Let's hope none of his congregation die, he will feel even worse.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

The bar managers need to stick to the guidelines that have been set in place. With customers and tables so far apart. Since we are still in the grips of a Pandemic, hand on heart, if that were my pub I would've pulled the shutters! My children lost their Great Grandfather to this in April so perhaps I take it a tad more personally, have more respect and whatnot. But it doesn't have to be that way,. For everybody to lose somebody in order to take it serious. Or does it? X

You've probably noticed as I bang on about it enough, I am absolutely sure that I had it late March (along with 7 colleagues, and my son) and feel I havent got quite over it still yet. I wasnt in hospital but was v unwell indeed and do not want to get it again. I would shout to the world, avoid this thing, do not get it!!

Sorry to hear you lost Great Grandad, it's tragic - it's not the way things should have been for him.

I just think when you look at mobbed Soho streets, it's almost a crowd control issue. Those bars inside may have been 100% compliant. Outside tables are going to be magnets to people. The fact is (sad fact), the owners cannot afford to close up again. They are on a precipice right now. Hopefully the decision wont be out of their hands if we have spikes.

Mr HKP just home from London, by train. He said trains are much quieter today and no one was misbehaving!

 

[tabitha111]

Michigan garage sale may have exposed attendees to virus

People who attended garage sale should monitor themselves for symptoms of virus

CHARLOTTE, Mich. – Health officials in Michigan on Thursday said that people who went to a garage sale near the community of Charlotte last weekend may have been exposed to the coronavirus.

The Lansing State Journal reported that the Barry-Eaton Health District said in a news release that a person who was working at the garage sale on the West Kalamo Highway from June 26 until June 28 reported having symptoms of the virus...

Hosting a garage sale and attending a garage sale during a pandemic? You can't fix stupid

My opinion is that we will never end this pandemic, until a vaccine is available.
I see all manner of folks trying hard to live like its 2019 again...every single day in my fb feed someone is planning birthday parties, a trip out of state, garage sales galore, bbqs, pool parties....and just today there was this post-


ATTENTION: Chesapeake Parents of School Aged Kids, as well as Chesapeake Teachers, Staff, Bus Drivers, and PTA

* VERY IMPORTANT CPS SCHOOL BOARD MEETING!
*Tomorrow, July 6, 6pm
*School Admin Building, 312 Cedar Road
*The Responsive Return-To-School Presentation for the 2020-21 school year will address how the 2020-21 school year will look.
*Speakers must sign up before 4pm, Monday. Call: 757-547-xxxx
*Meeting will be aired on Cox channel 46 and Verizon channel 42
*Please share this post.

This is your chance to speak up about how your kids will be educated this year, and/or how you and your job may be impacted.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
hello???? does anyone follow the news???
https://www.usnews.com/news/educati...ter-coronavirus-exposure-at-in-person-meeting


More than 40 School Principals Exposed to Coronavirus at In-Person Meeting
The San Francisco Bay Area school officials were meeting to discuss reopening schools and are now in quarantine.
By Lauren Camera, Senior Education Writer July 2, 2020

 

[MimosaMornings]

'I accept full responsibility:' Calvary Chapel pastor talks church's COVID-19 outbreak

"I accept full responsibility. I'm the leader of the church,” said Pastor Arbaugh.

When the church reopened its doors they implemented all COVID-19 required precautions.

"We kept all of the rules to the letter of the law,” said Pastor Arbaugh.

Last Wednesday the church immediately closed and was thoroughly cleaned after Paster Arbaugh and other leaders of the church found out some in the congregation had tested positive for COVID-19.

"We've had a lot of people, mostly staff is where it started and then it kind of spread out,” said Pastor Arbaugh.

Now at least one person is on a ventilator. However, Pastor Arbaugh said that member was already in the hospital. At least 50 others have tested positive for the virus, including Pastor Arbaugh and his wife although he said they have both since recovered. He said the majority have reported mild symptoms and he has been in constant communication with people within the church.

"If I could have done it all over again I would have said 'no hugging’,” said Pastor Arbaugh.

Pastor Arbaugh said when they initially reopened many people were happy to be back and were giving one another hugs.

He said not stopping that is something he accepts responsibility for and stricter rules will be in place when they eventually reopen.

Thet kept all of the rules except the big one about social distancing. But it’s ok, the majority only have mild symptoms. And no one is going to spread it.

Mostly staff is where it started - then spread out.

“The church also has a local clinic they help run that had to be shut down temporarily out of an abundance of caution as Pastor Arbaugh said those who work there also attend Calvery Chapel.”

Yeah, good idea to shut down that clinic.

 

[10ofRods]

I am on the admin side, so I’m not in the field like our glaziers. They really did such a great job during the chaos and panic at the beginning of all of this. They did a lot of work at the hospital to make space for covid patients.

I would assume your school has a good team of electricians, plumbers, and glaziers on contract who could make it work. But that costs money, so I could understand why the school would be hesitant to pull the trigger. I’m amazed at some of the stuff our guys can make work.

eta- also, unless it’s a smart board, a whiteboard is just a piece of white glass. Peanuts to cut and install a piece.

Some of our classrooms now have boards on three walls (but most do not). Unfortunately, the seats are fixed in many classrooms, so reorienting the classroom is difficult. And each one is different.

We do have people on contract - but with the 10% budget cuts, administrators are terrified about spending money (even though ultimately, all money comes from the number of students we serve).

A huge number of our newest classrooms do have moveable furniture, so all we'd need is a whiteboard at the opposite end of the room. And the projector and wiring for the computer would have to be changed. Just that last thing (getting IT to rewire a classroom) has been on about a 6 month lag. We could have portable projectors (but the school won't buy them for us right now - we'd have to supply them ourselves).

But the main problem is that the break-even point for most colleges and universities in the California public system is 35 students. Classrooms set up for 35 would have to go down to about 15-17 and those set up for 60 (the majority) would have to go to 30. It's just not doable unless they increase our funding (which is not going to happen).

So I'm wondering how we could (maybe) take out some tables, have students use clipboards for notetaking (like they really take notes with pen and pencil anyway) or issue tablets to them...

I don't know. I just want the vaccine already.

 

[CSIDreamer]

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I need to say this because it bothers me every time I see it. The continued stressing of "they would have died in 5 or 6 months anyway" strikes *me* as flippant and callous. Well, maybe they would have died peacefully in their sleep, but instead they died a horrible death, ventilator or no. <modsnip: quoted post was removed>

My mother is almost 94. And while we have a very rocky relationship, I'd just as soon she not die from Covid19.

Thanks for listening.

 

[Bravo]

Yes and just to add CSIDreamer they die alone. Nobody should die without a loved one by their side.

 

[10ofRods]

Seriously! When it comes down to it, certain retrofits might be quite cost-effective in the long run. But it's more tempting to have a young, desperate TA do it all for peanuts (and no health insurance).

That would work, if only such a person could be found to teach nursing or other subjects that absolutely require the person already have a doctorate and be fully licensed.

USC is struggling with how to proceed with first two years of medical school and the entire dental program. All universities with medical schools are struggling and giving classroom space to those programs above others (half the students per class, streaming lectures from a secluded professor - which, frankly, is absolutely no different than a regular large lecture class for most medical schools).

And colleges still have to pay those full time tenured faculty - whether they teach or not. Naturally, they'll want to put them online to at least wring a little revenue out.

Where I teach, 50-60% of the instruction is already provided by poorly paid adjunct professors (not TA's) who have no health insurance. Some of them have valiantly leapt to the front and said they'll teach in the real world (they are called freeway fliers - they can barely make a living if they can pick up enough classes here and there). It'll be really sad if they are the ones who are now put in the front lines of this.

At this point, due to my age, I'm not allowed on campus until we get new marching orders in September (the earliest I would have to be there is January - but I know they aren't going to let me come in).

 

[beatrixpotter]

lol, you are preaching to the choir. Every.single.day. I take a bouquet of flowers to my 130+ neighbors, I started a FB garden club for the neighborhood, every single day I reach out to someone less fortunate to me... I have given flowers every day to brighten up others since March 1st. I pick them and I call others.

I am doing it. I get up every day and cut flowers, put in a vase, and walk the hood to meet or just drop off at doorstep. I am really a big garderner with cut flowers to share which is the ONE thing that gives me joy.

Just saying...

I am doing it, every single thing you stated dear, and still very very depressed.

Even though folks help me, shop for me, talk with me...etc.

But thanks for the pointers...your support

That is so incredibly sweet of you that you take a bouquet to people every day, Dixie! I'm sorry you are struggling so. I've gone back and forth with being depressed here myself. I am very busy and I have a house full of people to interact with. But the world wide situation is just mentally overwhelming. It's so much to take in looking at the length of time and repercussions of this. (((hugs)))

 

[CharlestonGal]

Yes and just to add CSIDreamer they die alone. Nobody should die without a loved one by their side.

My father died in hospice in November. In retrospect, I'm glad it happened then because he too would have died alone.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Yes and just to add CSIDreamer they die alone. Nobody should die without a loved one by their side.

My friend is a nurse on a coronavirus ward (yes, she caught it) and while they've been fortunate not to be overwhelmed with cases and fortunate not to have too many deaths, she said the hardest thing by far is sitting with people taking their dying breaths knowing their families never got to say goodbye.

 

[Lavender Moon]

It's not out of control where I am except one city that is still in lockdown (whack a mole mode till 19th July). So in the states, those with more than 5% positive tests need to be taking action, not everyone.

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I think it soon will be out of control just about everywhere.

 

[Knitty]

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I need to say this because it bothers me every time I see it. The continued stressing of "they would have died in 5 or 6 months anyway" strikes *me* as flippant and callous. Well, maybe they would have died peacefully in their sleep, but instead they died a horrible death, ventilator or no. <modsnip: quoted post was removed>

My mother is almost 94. And while we have a very rocky relationship, I'd just as soon she not die from Covid19.

Thanks for listening.

My mother is 10 years younger than yours. And I've about had it with people who are so cavalier about elderly deaths, or any deaths, or elderly suffering, or any suffering. Good grief.

5-6 months isn't correct, anyway:

The average age of participants when they moved to a nursing home was about 83. The average length of stay before death was 13.7 months, while the median was five months. Fifty-three percent of nursing home residents in the study died within six months.

Social Support is Key to Nursing Home Length of Stay Before Death

In addition to that misuse of the stats, the "deaths in nursing homes" from COVID-19 numbers are actually deaths in both nursing homes and assisted living facilities. The average length of stay = 13.7 months is for only nursing homes. Those in assisted living are usually in better physical condition.

ETA to make the point I didn't quite manage to before the E.

 

[COSCitizen]

My father died in hospice in November. In retrospect, I'm glad it happened then because he too would have died alone.

My mother-in-law had twelve children, of which my partner is the oldest. All of them visited her when we knew the end was imminent. One of my brothers-in-law is a physician and he had arranged for hospice care in his house. Some of his siblings had to return home due to work obligations. However, my partner, three of his brothers, and two of his sisters were there. She died around 1:00 am on my partner's 65th birthday. I had kissed her goodbye and headed back to our hotel room around 10:00 pm because I was fairly certain I would not see her again based on the last time I saw my mother. As hard as it was, it would have been far harder if we couldn't have been there for her.