Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #66

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Georgia YMCA camp closes after coronavirus outbreak — CNN

30 test positive at Georgia YMCA camp

Campers age range 7-15 years old
Counselors 17-22 years old

YMCA camp in Georgia closes after campers and staff test positive for coronavirus - CNN

YMCA Camp High Harbour - Overnight Resident Summer Camps

I am surprised that they had overnight campers! Summer day camps are closed around the area.

Our church has camps but those were canceled this summer. Our local homeschool co-ops opened right back up while claiming they are "social distancing". I can not believe all the people sending their kids off to camp here in GA in this summer.
 
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I live on the 28th floor...lol

:eek:..:eek:..:eek:..!

Yeah its frightening. I wear an N95 just for the elevator. I switch when I get out.

28th floor....no wonder you need to wear a N95 mask just to get back and forth to your apartment! I go up 5 steps from my driveway, icy in winter though..LOL...:D
 
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What government can afford the "lockdown until a vaccine" scenario though? And would you expect people like grocery store clerks, etc, to keep working while the lucky ones stay home and ride it out for another year or more. I keep hearing "we're all in this together" and it makes me laugh.

You have a great question there. The grocery store clerks say they are "happy" to "still have a job." But are they? And what happens when the smaller stores start closing? What happens if CoVid wipes out everything but professional instacart shoppers and check-out people (all in hazard suits and with hazard pay)?

We are in together for sure - because everyone who eats food has to now pay for those people to provide it. Somehow. By doing something. That's how the economy works.

But to risk the grocery chain's health merely to get people back into hair salons? Really?

You think we who are locked in our houses are lucky? Then I am going to say that you, too, can work from home - it's a thing and there are jobs, if you think that's right for you.

I do not feel lucky AT ALL to not see my family, I miss my students, I wish I could go to the doctor IRL, and I'm not a happy camper staying home.

Long term, all of us who still have jobs will feel lucky - whether public-facing or not. And trust me, most jobs do not face the public. The vast majority of jobs are not retail or grocery store work or restaurants.
 
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I have visited Turkey several times. It really is a lovely place to visit. This bit is really interesting from your BBC link because of other media I have been reading today.

"Turkey embraces hydroxychloroquine
The country has public health lessons to offer, according to acting head of the World Health Organization (WHO) in Turkey, Dr Irshad Shaikh.

"Initially we were worried," he told the BBC. "They were having 3,500 positive cases per day. But what has worked is testing. And they did not have to wait five or six days for results." He also credits the quarantine, isolation and contract tracing measures but says it's too soon to judge Turkey's treatment protocol for patients.

Controversially that includes the anti-malarial drug, hydroxychloroquine, as standard. It's much touted by President Donald Trump - but has been roundly rejected by the latest international research.

The WHO has temporarily suspended it from their trial of possible treatments for the virus. That followed research published in the Lancet which suggested hydroxychloroquine can cause cardiac problems in Covid-19 patients, and could do more harm than good.

We were given access to a hospital where it has been part of the standard treatment for thousands of patients. The Dr Sehit Ilhan Varank hospital, a two-year old-state hospital, is also state of the art. It's a bright, spacious battlefront against the virus.

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Image captionTurkey has been using the drug hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 patients
Chief doctor Nurettin Yiyit - whose art work is on the hospital walls - says it's key to use hydroxychloroquine early. "Other countries are using this drug too late," he says, "especially the United States. We only use it at the beginning. We have no hesitation about this drug. We believe it's effective because we get the results."

On a tour of the hospital, adding and subtracting protective layers as we go, he explains that Turkey's approach is to "get ahead of the virus", by treating early and treating aggressively. They use hydroxychloroquine and other drugs, along with blood plasma and oxygen in high concentrations.

Dr Yiyit is proud of his hospital's mortality rate of under 1%, and of the empty beds in the intensive care unit. They try to keep patients out of here, and off ventilators.

We meet 40-year old Hakim Sukuk who has left the ICU and is homeward bound, brimming with gratitude.

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Image captionHakim Sukuk is heading home after treatment
"Everyone took care of me so well," he said, sitting up in bed. "It was like being in my mother's arms."

Turkey is currently a dictatorship and therefore not to be trusted on their pandemic handling & statistics, and their government is not laudable by those who value democracy. IMO. I do agree that the country and the people are lovely.
 
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Okay, here's what I need to draw (and color really helps):

DF1d8EN


You can see the two early branches of the CoVid genome - but we didn't know that at first (the right hand side was known earlier and it all had to be figured out).
 
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Okay I give up, but here's a link to another diagram that many of us need to draw on a white board (with color):

Phylogenetic network analysis of SARS-CoV-2 genomes

So...if it's just static, it's too much take in. But if one starts at one point and explains why all the lines...as they draw them...it works. I would need about 10-15 of these diagrams (always current) per lecture.

Anyway, we teachers need to use hand gestures, facial expressions - and our drawings!
 
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I think people climbing stairs are exhaling a lot more than people standing still in an elevator so it's about even imo. If I enter a stairwell I have no idea how many people were there just before me, much the same as an elevator.

That's not exactly true. I think the science says differently, but I'd wear a mask either place. Stairwell still has conditions that make it safer. You can google it (scholar.google.com is nice) and I'm sure there's not a lot of data - because it is not currently a huge topic of study.

But there are video'ed experiments relating to this - perhaps try Youtube.
 
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Night all. Be safe. Be kind.
 
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Broadway Star Nick Cordero Dies

Over the course of 13 weeks, the Tony Award-nominated star woke up from a medically-induced coma and underwent a leg amputation due to COVID-19 complications.

Broadway star Nick Cordero has died after a months-long battle with the coronavirus. He was 41.

He is survived by his wife Amanda Kloots, whom he wed in September 2017, and their 1-year-old son Elvis Eduardo.

"God has another angel in heaven now. My darling husband passed away this morning. He was surrounded in love by his family, singing and praying as he gently left this earth. ⠀ I am in disbelief and hurting everywhere. My heart is broken as I cannot imagine our lives without him. Nick was such a bright light. He was everyone’s friend, loved to listen, help and especially talk. He was an incredible actor and musician. He loved his family and loved being a father and husband. Elvis and I will miss him in everything we do, everyday," she wrote on Instagram Sunday.


"To Nicks extraordinary doctor, Dr. David Ng, you were my positive doctor! There are not many doctors like you. Kind, smart, compassionate, assertive and always eager to listen to my crazy ideas or call yet another doctor for me for a second opinion. You’re a diamond in the rough," Kloots continued.

"I cannot begin to thank everyone enough for the outpour of love , support and help we’ve received these last 95 days. You have no idea how much you lifted my spirits at 3pm everyday as the world sang Nicks song, Live Your Life. We sang it to him today, holding his hands. As I sang the last line to him, 'they'll give you hell but don’t you light them kill your light not without a fight. Live your life,' I smiled because he definitely put up a fight. I will love you forever and always my sweet man," she concluded.
 
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Turkey is currently a dictatorship and therefore not to be trusted on their pandemic handling & statistics, and their government is not laudable by those who value democracy. IMO. I do agree that the country and the people are lovely.

I don't see the relevance as we accept reports coming out of China. Turkey is a US ally, also part of NATO and hosts a USAF base, so they are trusted in that regard. The initial speaker in the article is the Acting Turkish WHO head also.
 
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Turkey is currently a dictatorship and therefore not to be trusted on their pandemic handling & statistics, and their government is not laudable by those who value democracy. IMO. I do agree that the country and the people are lovely.
Reminds me of China.
 
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I'm thinking that MOST vulnerable people, especially here in the USA, sat out the weekend celebrations for our Independence day yesterday.
We certainly did.
Cases will definitely keep spiking as we expand testing.
The big question for me, is, will deaths?
Hope you all had an enjoyable weekend.
P.S. I am very appreciative for how much my mate and I love and like each other.
I cannot even imagine going through all of this without a patient, loving partner.
I will always feel horrible for those that have had to go through this without.
 
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Smh. It's a slow motion trainwreck. And my state is #3.:confused:

Soaring U.S. coronavirus cases, hospitalizations overshadow July 4 celebrations

In addition to rising cases, an alarming percentage of tests are coming back positive. The World Health Organization considers a positivity rate above 5% to be cause for concern because it suggests there are more cases in the community that have yet to be uncovered.

Ten states averaged double-digit positivity rates over the past week – Arizona (26%), Florida (18%), South Carolina (17%), Nevada (14%), Alabama (14%), Texas (14%), Mississippi (13%), Georgia (13%), Idaho (11%) and Kansas (10%), according to The COVID Tracking Project here a volunteer-run effort to track the outbreak.
But, don't you know that that 99% of coronavirus cases in America are "totally harmless." Quotation: Donald Trump
You have a great question there. The grocery store clerks say they are "happy" to "still have a job." But are they? And what happens when the smaller stores start closing? What happens if CoVid wipes out everything but professional instacart shoppers and check-out people (all in hazard suits and with hazard pay)?

We are in together for sure - because everyone who eats food has to now pay for those people to provide it. Somehow. By doing something. That's how the economy works.

But to risk the grocery chain's health merely to get people back into hair salons? Really?

You think we who are locked in our houses are lucky? Then I am going to say that you, too, can work from home - it's a thing and there are jobs, if you think that's right for you.

I do not feel lucky AT ALL to not see my family, I miss my students, I wish I could go to the doctor IRL, and I'm not a happy camper staying home.

Long term, all of us who still have jobs will feel lucky - whether public-facing or not. And trust me, most jobs do not face the public. The vast majority of jobs are not retail or grocery store work or restaurants.
I see life as we knew it changing toward technology before our very eyes, brought along by COVID-19. It's going to affect a ton of jobs. Many restaurants will close, especially fine dining, most likely many boutique type stores will disappear, more grocery shopping online, fewer gyms, more Amazon. I wonder about church and bar attendance. (Friends of mine really like online church services.) Major league sports and college sports? And, most of all, schools. (Many parents are now concerned with regular school days.)
 
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That is a public street in Soho and the police were there. What more do you think should be done? Sorry for your loss. Have you written to your MP if you are unhappy? That is what I did and I got a resolution.
What more do I think should be done?? -. I think people should act accordingly in the way that the Scientists and Health Workers are urging us to act. I think people should have more respect for those who have lost their lives. I think people should get it into their thick heads that wether they care about catching this virus or not, mask wearing isn't about them-. It's about the wider population and saving their fellow countrymen. I wish people would accept that now is not the time to behave in this way and that they have their whole lives ahead of them.. well for this week at least, we can say they have their whole lives.. X
 
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