Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #66

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Pubs close after drinkers test positive for virus

A number of pubs in England have closed after customers tested positive for coronavirus.

At least three establishments announced they had shut their doors again just days after reopening at the weekend.

They were among hundreds of venues that welcomed customers for the first time in three months as lockdown measures were eased.

Crowds descended in some towns and cities, prompting fears social distancing was being disregarded.

The affected pubs announced their closures via Facebook.
 
  • #742
Bolsonaro experiencing Covid-19 symptoms, says CNN Brazil

Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro has Covid-19 symptoms, including a 38 degree fever, according to CNN Brazil. The controversial right-wing leader, who has been criticised over his handling of the pandemic in Brazil, has said he is taking hydroxychloroquine.

Results from Mr Bolsonaro’s Covid-19 test, administered at the Hospital das Forças Armadas in Brasília, are expected on Tuesday.

Mr Bolsonaro told supporters outside the presidential palace that he had just visited the hospital and been tested for the virus, adding that an exam had shown his lungs “clean”.

CNN Brasil and newspaper Estado de S Paulo reported that he had symptoms of the disease. The president’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
 
  • #743
Fort Carson medical troops head to Texas to help battle coronavirus

Fort Carson will deploy 50 medical troops to San Antonio to help battle coronavirus, U.S. Northern Command announced Monday.

The soldiers will embed in civilian medical facilities to help doctors and nurses combat a spike that included 548 new cases in the San Antonio area reported Monday by Texas health officials.

“The medical personnel include emergency room and critical care nurses, respiratory specialists and support personnel,” stated Northern Command, a Peterson Air Force Base headquarters that has led military efforts to assist local governments amid the pandemic.
 
  • #744
Our NSW police spent 45 minutes searching for a hotel quarantine 'escapee' last night. They found her, and slapped her with a $1,000 fine.

She told them that she was just getting away to have a smoke (after breaking a tackle when security tried to physically stop her). Apparently she also damaged the sprinkler system in her hotel room.

But she told social media something else ..... (she is a known 'social media influencer').



“I am strong, but after facing months of confinement in Paris, I just want to run to the ocean, eat Sydney Thai (nothing beats it), and a huge plate of oysters."

She has now become the first person in mandatory quarantine in NSW to be issued a public infringement notice.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/heal...-causing-significant-damage-to-room-c-1148548

^^^This is why other countries have managed their Covid rates. Yes, "draconian" methods, keeping people in quarantine.

And here in the United States, it is a complete free for all disaster. This weekend, our town was inundated by cars, people, all had out of state plates. Nevada, Utah, California, Florida, Washington, Arizona....

I am sure that the Covid rate will quadruple by the end of the month in Montana.
 
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Miami Mayor Francis Suarez said there should be a national and state mandate requiring people to wear masks outside the home.

"It is no different, for me, then mandating a seat belt," said Suarez, a Republican. "I understand that there are people that get upset about it, that they think it is taking away their liberty and freedom. But the fact of the matter is, there's all kinds of rules that we implement for people's safety, whether it's stopping at a stop sign, or stopping at a red light, or wearing your seat belt. And those are things that we agree upon as a society so we can have order."

July's early coronavirus numbers grim news for U.S.
 
  • #747
Fort Carson medical troops head to Texas to help battle coronavirus

Fort Carson will deploy 50 medical troops to San Antonio to help battle coronavirus, U.S. Northern Command announced Monday.

The soldiers will embed in civilian medical facilities to help doctors and nurses combat a spike that included 548 new cases in the San Antonio area reported Monday by Texas health officials.

“The medical personnel include emergency room and critical care nurses, respiratory specialists and support personnel,” stated Northern Command, a Peterson Air Force Base headquarters that has led military efforts to assist local governments amid the pandemic.

Well overdue. We pay for the highly trained defence force personnel in war times or not. It is good to have them assist wherever possible. imo Take some of the load off the over-stretched civilian med staff.
 
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CA having a rough go.

Hospitalizations jump 50% in California as coronavirus infections soar

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - New coronavirus cases soared in California over the July Fourth weekend, stressing some hospital systems and leading to the temporary closure of the state capitol building in Sacramento for deep cleaning, officials said on Monday.

The number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 has increased by 50% over the past two weeks to about 5,800, Governor Gavin Newsom said at a briefing.

About a third of those hospitalized were in Los Angeles County, state and local records showed, with about 630 confirmed and suspected coronavirus patients requiring intensive care.

And 25% of the hospitalizations in the county in July were among patients aged 18 to 40, health officials said, as new cases increasingly hit a younger population that may have been lax about safety precautions in recent weeks.
 
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The virus is transmitted primarily by respiration, not hands. While you are personally comfortable with your mailman's germs (I understand that you live someplace where CoVid is rare), the topic isn't just about each one of us and our individual habits. If I lived someplace where the positivity rate was 27% (it's 6% where I live), I would think about mail more.

So I'm typing this out in hopes it will make people in those places either step up their game or feel comfortable with what they're doing.

If someone mails me something here in town (such as legal documents), it's typically 12 hours between leaving that place and arriving at my door. How much CoVid has to be on the mail before it could be infectious?

Most mail goes through conveyor belts. How often are they sanitized? I just asked our post office about it (by phone) and the answer was "we are not sanitizing the conveyor belts." I asked about the storage bins - they aren't sanitizing those either. They are short-handed right now and there is no mandate.

So while I believe mail is not a usual source of infection, the fact that people who say they are "doing everything" and have never left their house are getting CoVid is an interest of mine.

The virus lasts on surfaces like conveyor belts for "hours to days" according to the research. Average is 24 hours for a carton and conveyor belts could be reinfected continuously (so hard to study and no one has attempted it, AFAIK - just one study saying 72 hours for a conveyor belt in a closed system).

The virus doesn't "dissipate." It deactivates after a time (different in varying circumstances). It can still be located even if deactivated. Where would it "dissipate" to, I wonder? It's a physical object. The amount of virus found on floors and in sewer water is very large - and is still active for up to a week (no one knows).

At any rate, very little new research on this topic and the early studies were provisional.

One form of the virus lives on paper for up to 5 days - so we can each decide for ourselves. But I'd sure wonder about that particular vector for the "I've never left my house, all groceries sit for 24 hours before I touch them" group. I'd also wonder if people's handwashing actions (most people wet their hands before adding soap) are a factor (inadvertent droplets splashed onto the face?)

Another possible source of CoVid for the "I have no idea where I got it" group is sink drains, traps, shower floors and traps. The study on this is new. We wash our hands in sinks, CoVid is found in the sink's plumbing. Is further water going down the drain capable of creating aerosols? I'm reading some conversations among some lab researchers who are arguing about how to go about recreating this situation in order to study it (different forces of faucet water have to be emulated, etc)

The new more stable form of CoVid (the "G" mutation) lasts longer than the prior version on these surfaces. Still waiting for any sort of coherent research to be done on just how long the more stable form lasts.

100,000 virions exhaled per breath in an active shedder who isn't talking...probably 1 million needed for most people to get infected. No one has estimated the "hand to face" transmission vector (and some scientists think it is super rare - but maybe that's what happens with these also super rare cases of people locked into their homes - and still getting CoVid?)

As someone else said, there has to be some way these people are getting it.

The part about the mail interests me too.
I remember early on that I went out the front door to look at a package that had just been delivered and the UPS driver stopped in the driveway and yelled “spray it and leave it” - which I did since I had the spray in my hand and wasn’t planning on touching it for 3 days. I was outside a few days ago when an Amazon driver brought a package and told me not to touch it.
The local news had just reported an outbreak at the local Amazon distribution center.

I would not have a problem identifying the times I have ventured out of the house and into a store/doctor/etc. - my debit card activity would collaborate my notes that I keep in my Covid notebook.
 
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NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson, wife cope with coronavirus in Aspen

Jimmie Johnson and his family took every precaution to avoid the coronavirus. They washed their hands frequently, diligently followed the face-mask guidelines and even left their home in Charlotte, North Carolina, for the less densely populated Aspen.

And yet both Johnson and his wife still tested positive for the virus this week — knocking the seven-time NASCAR champion out of what was expected to be his final Brickyard 400.

Johnson is the first NASCAR driver to test positive for the virus that causes COVID-19 and it will end his streak of 663 consecutive Cup starts. It’s also temporarily disrupting his family life as he and wife, Chani, attempt to quarantine while still raising their two daughters. Both girls tested negative, Johnson said.

Johnson was in Indianapolis on Wednesday to test on Dallara’s simulator. He then flew back to Aspen and was scheduled to return to Indy for Sunday’s race.

He didn’t have an inkling anything was wrong until Friday.

Chani Johnson had been experiencing seasonal allergy symptoms in the summer mountain air, and the 44-year-old Johnson was using a routine prescription to treat his own seasonal issues.

Chani Johnson, a “rule follower” her husband said, went for a coronavirus test because of the allergies. Her results came back positive Friday morning and Johnson and their daughters immediately went for their own tests.

The good news is doctors believe Johnson’s wife already endured the worst of COVID-19. Johnson said aside from a tickle in his throat, he’s asymptomatic.

But the ramifications reverberate around the racing community.

Johnson said he has spoken with representatives from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as part of a contact tracing initiative and continues to seek out answers to a litany of questions. One thing he’s not certain about is a positive test for antibodies he said he received early in the pandemic.

“I was warned by my physician then that although I did test positive for the antibodies, there’s a 20% chance that it’s incorrect,” Johnson said. “On top of the fact that they don’t know what the antibodies mean. Still today, I don’t know what they mean.

“Once I clear this and go back into life, I assume I still need to be very cautious and I could be re-infected once again. There are just so many questions regarding this virus and what means what. I still don’t have clarity. The longer I get into this and the more issues I deal with, the more questions I have.”

He can’t return to racing unless he’s free of symptoms and has two negative tests in a 24-hour span.

he took every precaution--- but he got on a plane---hmmmm
 
  • #754
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez said there should be a national and state mandate requiring people to wear masks outside the home.

"It is no different, for me, then mandating a seat belt," said Suarez, a Republican. "I understand that there are people that get upset about it, that they think it is taking away their liberty and freedom. But the fact of the matter is, there's all kinds of rules that we implement for people's safety, whether it's stopping at a stop sign, or stopping at a red light, or wearing your seat belt. And those are things that we agree upon as a society so we can have order."

July's early coronavirus numbers grim news for U.S.

I wish mayor Suarez well in this attempt. Just an aside, the article mentions the mayor's preferred political party. Is that normal? I'm in Canada, where the mayors' political party preferences are not published. I have no idea what our Mayor's preferred party is, or even if he votes the same way twice in a row. I know the Deputy Mayor's preference only because he's my husband.

The reason I am asking is because so many aspects of the battle to contain CoVid have become political issues, and there sometimes seems to be a strained relationship between the state governors and the mayors. I'm trying to make sense of it.
 
  • #755
Average age of new Florida COVID-19 cases only 21 as state’s infection rate continues to climb, governor says

THE VILLAGES, Fla. — The average age for those testing positive for COVID-19 in Florida is now only 21, Gov. Ron DeSantis said Monday in an update in The Villages.

He said the younger age of those testing positive is contributing to lower mortality rates from the virus across the state. The fatality rate in Florida is currently less than 2%.

Of course, we know that Governor Desantis is well known for his absolute commitment to honesty and transparency regarding Covid-19 statistics in Florida.

I wouldn't buy a used car from the man.
 
  • #756
I wish mayor Suarez well in this attempt. Just an aside, the article mentions the mayor's preferred political party. Is that normal? I'm in Canada, where the mayors' political party preferences are not published. I have no idea what our Mayor's preferred party is, or even if he votes the same way twice in a row. I know the Deputy Mayor's preference only because he's my husband.

The reason I am asking is because so many aspects of the battle to contain CoVid have become political issues, and there sometimes seems to be a strained relationship between the state governors and the mayors. I'm trying to make sense of it.

Every stinkin' thing is politicized here. It's ridiculous. Jmo

Are your mayors not elected officials?
 
  • #757
Every stinkin' thing is politicized here. It's ridiculous. Jmo

Are your mayors not elected officials?

Yes they are, but based on their abilities alone, not on party affiliation. The elections for mayor and council are non-partisan. We have no idea how any council members vote in provincial or federal elections.
 
  • #758
Below is what the World Health Organization has to say on the topic of the use of masks by healthy people out in the general public. The quotes are straight from the guidance document published by the WHO and available on the WHO website at the link at the bottom of this post ("Guidance").

“At the present time, the widespread use of masks by healthy people in the community setting is not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence and there are potential benefits and harms to consider.” (Guidance, pg. 6.)

Here is the list of the "Potential benefits/advantages" set out on pages 7-8 of the Guidance:

1. “Reduced potential exposure risk from infected persons before they develop symptoms." (Emphasis added). Of course, there is no evidence that there is any such benefit. Indeed, the WHO itself casts doubt on the likelihood of pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic transmission. (Guidance, pg. 2 (“The available data, to date, on onward infection from cases without symptoms comes from a limited number of studies with small samples that are subject to possible recall bias and for which fomite transmission cannot be ruled out.”).) The WHO further notes that in any event, “individuals would need to be in close proximity to an infected person in a household or at a mass gathering where physical distancing cannot be achieved, to become infected with the virus.” (Guidance, pg. 6.)

2. “[R]educed potential stigmatization of individuals wearing masks to prevent infecting others (source control) or of people caring for COVID-19 patients in non-clinical settings." [In other words, not anything to do with the effectiveness against transmission, but to hopefully help certain people not have a sad.]

3. “[M[aking people feel they can play a role in contributing to stopping spread of the virus.” [Again, not anything to do with the effectiveness against transmission, but rather trying to make people feel all good inside by tricking them into thinking they’re actually doing something wonderful wearing a mask. ]

4. “[R]eminding people to be compliant with other measures (e.g., hand hygiene, not touching nose and mouth). However, this can also have the reverse effect.” [So they suggest a potential positive effect, but then acknowledge that it could actually do the exact opposite! And sure enough, the reverse of this is one of the harms/disadvantages they identify. More on those below.]

5. “Amidst the global shortage of surgical masks and PPE, encouraging the public to create their own fabric masks may promote individual enterprise and community integration Moreover, the production of non-medical masks may offer a source of income for those able to manufacture masks within their communities. Fabric masks can also be a form of cultural expression, encouraging public acceptance of protection measures in general.” [Another great one---hey, maybe somebody can make some a buck or two off this scam! Oooh, and maybe people can start wearing masks with team logos, their favorite political slogan, or their favorite Hallmark movie character on them!!]

Now, for the "likely disadvantages of the use of mask by healthy people in the general public" (set out on page 8 of the Guidance):

1. “[P]otential increased risk of self-contamination due to the manipulation of a face mask and subsequently touching eyes with contaminated hands.” [Yikes, that’s not good!]

2. “[P]otential self-contamination that can occur if nonmedical masks are not changed when wet or soiled. This can create favourable conditions for microorganism to amplify.” [Uh….]

3. “[P]otential headache and/or breathing difficulties, depending on type of mask used.” [Doesn't sound fun.]

4. “[P]otential development of facial skin lesions, irritant dermatitis or worsening acne, when used frequently for long hours.” [Okay…so no evidence that a healthy person wearing a mask does anything helpful, and it could actually increase the risk of transmission, while giving me a headache, making it hard to breathe, and making my face breakout……so why are we doing this?!]

5. “[D]ifficulty with communicating clearly.” [Just what we need in this country---more trouble communicating with each other!]

6. “[P]otential discomfort.” [You mean, beside the headache, difficulty breathing, and face breakouts!?!]

7. “[A] false sense of security, leading to potentially lower adherence to other critical preventive measures such as physical distancing and hand hygiene.” [Oh good, let’s pick something that shows no evidence of helping, that could actually lead to people not doing the things that are shown to help!! Brilliant!!]

8. “[P]oor compliance with mask wearing, in particular by young children.” [Can’t imagine why given the above there could ever be poor compliance!!]

9. “[W]aste management issues; improper mask disposal leading to increased litter in public places, risk of contamination to street cleaners and environment hazard.” [So wait, we’re not about the environment now? And, we really should treat our street cleaners better than that.]

10. “[D]ifficulty communicating for deaf persons who rely on lip reading.” [Oh, so let’s also throw the deaf under the bus with the street cleaners?!?! Why?]

11. “[D]isadvantages for or difficulty wearing them, especially for children, developmentally challenged persons, those with mental illness, elderly persons with cognitive impairment, those with asthma or chronic respiratory or breathing problems, those who have had facial trauma or recent oral maxillofacial surgery, and those living in hot and humid environment.” [Well, now we’re just piling on to those who are in most of need. Starting to feel reminiscent of what NY, NJ, CT, MA, PA, and MI did to their . . .oh, never mind.]

Advice on the use of masks in the community, during home care and in healthcare settings in the context of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak
 
  • #759
Night all. Be safe. Be kind.
 
  • #760
Yes, we are. The leader in Covid 19 cases.
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https://news.google.com/articles/CA...CAowl6p7MN-zCTCtvxU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en

"The White House claimed on Monday that the US has been “a leader” in the global fight against coronavirus, despite infections nationally now approaching 3m, with 130,000 deaths, and America recently witnessing the highest ever number of new daily cases reported in the world.


With the majority of US states reporting increases in new cases, the White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, said at a briefing on Monday afternoon: “I think the world is looking at us as a leader in Covid-19.”
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