Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #67

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You think every single person would comply? Of course they wouldn’t. What about hospital workers, grocery store workers, they can and will still be infecting people without even knowing it. And that’s not even including regular folk who just don’t follow the rules anyway.

It doesn't have to be this way. It really doesn't.

I think we all know what the one singular problem is. The leaders are not on the same page. They can't put aside their differences and all pull together. If they all did that, the people who follow their lead would comply.

Anyone would think that taking the measures required is such a HUGE hardship. I can tell you, it isn't.

The longer that the leadership let this go on, the longer the pandemic will spread through the US. Killing, and maiming, and destroying the economy.
 
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It doesn't have to be this way. It really doesn't.

I think we all know what the one singular problem is. The leaders are not on the same page. They can't put aside their differences and all pull together. If they all did that, the people who follow their lead would comply.

Anyone would think that taking the measures required is such a HUGE hardship. I can tell you, it isn't.

The longer that the leadership let this go on, the longer the pandemic will spread through the US. Killing, and maiming, and destroying the economy.

I saw a video the other night, re: Aus going BACK in lockdown...

Gah can’t find video atm.

For quick reference:
As parts of Australia go back into covid lockdown, what hope is there for the rest of the world? - CNN

Anyway, people had short notice they’re going back into lockdown — people were lining up for staples. I think we should be ready in the States for us to go into lockdown at any moment going forward over the next few months / prep for fall and winter, moo.

Australia is rockin it. Canada. NZ, SK...


Thanks again for your kind words and concern for the US. All of you, NZ, UK, Canada. It means a lot.

“Nobody is safe until we are ALL safe“
-Dr. Mike

The US situation affects the progress of the whole world.
 
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I saw a video the other night, re: Aus going BACK in lockdown...

Gah can’t find video atm.

For quick reference:
Australia closes border between two most populous states - CNN Video

Anyway, people had short notice they’re going back into lockdown (iirc 177 cases)— people were lining up for staples. I think we should be ready in the States to go into lockdown at any moment going forward over the next few months.

Australia is rockin it. Canada. NZ, SK...


Thanks again for your kind words and concern for the US. All of you, NZ, UK, Canada

“Nobody is safe until we are ALL safe“
-Dr. Mike

The US situation affects the progress of the whole world.

We are now having a testing blitz in my state of South Australia ... because Victoria has closed its borders.
Our leaders are concerned that Victorians have come into our state prior to their border closing and perhaps didn't quarantine like they should have.

Anyone who feels a respiratory issue is asked to go to the mobile testing stations and be tested.

All this because of a security guard breaching the rules at a Victorian quarantine hotel. :mad:
 
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Let’s be like these other cool countries and rock this 🤬🤬🤬🤬, moo.
qmfr
Rabbit hole

I was just listening to Grace Slick, “if you go chasing rabbits” and was just wondering if there has ever been a spillover from rabbits?



eta iirc I saw some photos of rabbits in the Wuhan market - again we know it’s likely a bat spillover; SARS was civet cats, iirc WHO sees more evidence of civet role in SARS

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eta2:
Rabbit meat production and processing in China - ScienceDirect


we know this is bat spillover, at this time.

eta3: I can’t wait for the results from the next WHO team’s investigation going in.

eta4: Zoonoses Associated with Rabbits | Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee | Washington State University
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Now that's a song!
 
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Just because it's nice to see a leader thinking outside of the box...

In the wake of the newest indoor dining closures in SD County on Monday, the Mayor of Poway (a small-ish inland SD Co community nicknamed 'The City in the Country") proposed the city buying a bunch of picnic tables, letting the local restaurants use them for outdoor dining in their lots/streets/whatever works for their locale, basically, and then down the road when the restrictions are lifted, the city will take them back to put into city parks.

It was immediately approved by City Council, they've already purchased AND delivered tables to some local restaurants.

More here on Mayor Vaus' twitter: https://twitter.com/stevevaus?lang=en

Or here, city of Poway:

City of Poway
@cityofpoway

“When things get tough, you have to get creative." With indoor dining again suspended in San Diego County due to rising cases of COVID-19, the City of Poway quickly put into action an idea to help Poway restaurants: picnic tables. https://bit.ly/2ZcP5IY
4:30 PM · Jul 8, 2020·Twitter Web App

Obviously nothing is perfect, but given the situation, it's a creative approach for a city to take I think!

And incredibly amazing that they came up with it, voted on it, and have already purchased and started acting on it all in under 2 days!

“When things get tough, you have to get creative,” said Mayor Steve Vaus. “We had already cut red tape to allow outdoor dining. Providing picnic tables at no cost is just another simple way to help save businesses and jobs.”

https://twitter.com/cityofpoway/status/1281007704945745920
 
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Snoods: where are we with the animal shelters during all this? Humane societies, etc.
Thanks for asking! I’m not sure about the Humane Society, but our shelter is still appointment only with limited hours for fostering, adoptions, and drop offs, but we are still of course doing rescues. The same is true for a few other local shelters.

Volunteers were staggered but are now temporarily suspended. It’s very sad for the animals. Sometimes the only time they get out of their kennel is when a volunteer takes them out.

We are still doing foster clinics for potential foster parents, but we have people check in from their car and we do them outside with everyone masked and social distancing.

Honestly it’s been exhausting, a real balancing act. Not fantastic for the dogs and cats, either.

Everyone, fostering a pet is so rewarding and it’s completely free for you! The shelter or a volunteer group pays for everything, including vet bills and food. What better company than a snuggly dog or cat while stuck at home? (I have to get my plug in, lol.)
 
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We are now having a testing blitz in my state of South Australia ... because Victoria has closed its borders.
Our leaders are concerned that Victorians have come into our state prior to their border closing and perhaps didn't quarantine like they should have.

Anyone who feels a respiratory issue is asked to go to the mobile testing stations and be tested.

All this because of a security guard breaching the rules at a Victorian quarantine hotel. :mad:
Oh, no! That’s a shame. Grr.
 
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I watched many of the BLM protests, and while I agree they probably did lead to slight up-ticks in Covid cases, the main driver, in my very humble opinion, was the way that the protests took place. For instance, I saw (and know through relatives) some of the largest protests in New York City. There was no major increase in cases following these. I surmise it is because so many of the protesters wore masks. Pretty similar to the large protests in Minneapolis. However, in Atlanta, many of the protesters did not wear masks. There was a larger increase there, and probably the unmasked protests played a part. This is just my view, but I think the protests where people wore masks and also those where they socially distanced (in so many of the smaller towns this actually happened) had very little effect on the increase of Covid-19 cases. Masks and distancing can make a difference, and I hope that future protesters do like the New Yorkers. Of course, the small number who engaged in destruction of property or looting, were totally wrong, and should be charged, if they can be identified. All my opinion.
Those protesters did not all come from NYC so the uptick would not necessarily have shown up in NY. Also, they all went on for weeks and weeks. I watched many of them too and only maybe half had masks. They also removed them whenever they wanted to shout in LE faces. Some are still going on. MOO.

Here's a link as an example of more protesters testing positive in Houston, despite wearing masks.

Houston protesters starting to test positive for COVID-19
 
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Arizona could be the new Coronavirus capital of the world

The hardest part for those working in the hospital is that nurses are getting sick at a very high rate putting more strain on the physicians.

Dr. Mottl continued, "They are out at least a week or ten days and now they are starting to come back, but we don't know for sure if they will have long lasting immunity or if its only temporary."

Doctor Theresa Cullen of the Pima County Health Department says there were multiple factors that lead to the rise of the virus in Arizona: the state opened rapidly and saw holidays like Memorial Day and Father's Day that most likely contributed.
So why are they getting sick? Is the PPE not working or are they getting it elsewhere? Are they reusing PPE? That's concerning.
 
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Fight continues for healthcare workers against COVID-19

I can't post it all because of the 10% rule but 100 days with no day off.

HOUSTON - While the Coronavirus pandemic continues, many workers on the front line haven’t taken a day off in more than 100 days.

“It’s pure adrenaline,” said Christina Mathers, a nurse at United Memorial Medical Center (UMMC). “We run on adrenaline and caffeine.”



Inside the COVID-19 unit at UMMC, staff members recently had to add new hospital beds for Coronavirus patients. So far, they’ve successfully treated dozens of people with COVID-19. The hospital has gained national attention for its success.

“We’re all exhausted,” said UMMC Chief Medical Officer Dr. Joseph Varon. “Everybody is tired.”



LIVE: Interactive Coronavirus case data and map

Treating COVID-19 patients is a tough task. Every medical worker is required to wear multiple layers of protective equipment. Every time they leave the COVID unit, workers must remove their outer shell and replace it before re-entering.


“This is the most I’ve ever sweated,” said Mathers. “Even when I worked out, I didn’t sweat this much.”

The protective equipment promotes a safer working environment, but it’s also time-consuming. According to Dr. Varon, they go through about 8-10 layers of protective gear per-person every day.

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No, I agree that you can't put your lives on hold for a vaccine that may never even come, but you can put your lives in hold to eradicate the virus from your nation. Half measures don't work.
We have done that and were locked down for nearly 4 months. No half measures is exactly correct. The problem with the states is the sheer size and the fact that some states are past the peak while others are not yet over it. There should be more support between states. Are the states like NY now helping Texas for example?
 
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This is Melbourne in lockdown.
Just follow the rules, and hope numbers come down.
Easy: shopping only for essentials, and walking the dog around the block.
How hard is that.

Victoria records 165 new coronavirus cases as Melbourne and Mitchell Shire lockdown begins

Victoria records 165 new coronavirus cases as Melbourne and Mitchell Shire lockdown begins

5 hrs ago
Victoria has recorded another 165 cases of coronavirus, including several hospital and aged care workers, on the first day of a six-week lockdown in Melbourne and the Mitchell Shire.
 
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This is Melbourne in lockdown.
Just follow the rules, and hope numbers come down.
Easy: shopping only for essentials, and walking the dog around the block.
How hard is that.

Victoria records 165 new coronavirus cases as Melbourne and Mitchell Shire lockdown begins

Victoria records 165 new coronavirus cases as Melbourne and Mitchell Shire lockdown begins

5 hrs ago
Victoria has recorded another 165 cases of coronavirus, including several hospital and aged care workers, on the first day of a six-week lockdown in Melbourne and the Mitchell Shire.
Not hard at all. A bit boring that's all. I have been doing that for 4 months and it is only just finishing now.
 
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As a business owner (restaurant) here in California, I thought I'd share with you our daily business experience...
Absolutely, depending on what our Governor Gavin Newsome says, or, does NOT say our sales go up or they go down.
ALL sales. Dine in, to go, curbside, you name it.
*Where we operate, out of over 50 thousand residents, we have had -0- deaths.
Doesn't matter. Although we have over 39 million people living in California, the same rules are applied to all of us.
So, last Thursday, after Gavin Newsome gave one of his speeches, we had exactly 1 (one) customer.
All of our overhead remains the same. Rent, electric, insurance, telephone, gas, payroll and taxes.
Somewhat of a solution would be for our govenor to monitor where the problems are in this huge state, and where they are not.
Instead of treating us all the same.
So, yeah, I'm sure, some will disagree...
It's 2020. He's got the tech and the man power to do this.
Sweeping declarations are going to destroy businesses that shouldn't be destroyed.
California has a negative 54 Billion budget as of two months ago.
The next tally? Huge increase to her deficit.
Moo a hundred times.
So why doesn't he just lockdown the hotspots like we have just had to do with Leicester? Is that possible?
 
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Grover (from Sesame Street) was just on an evening current affairs TV show here. He skyped in. He said he is good at technology, learned how to tweet from Big Bird.

"It's all going to be okay. It might be scary, but it will be okay. Stay home, stay healthy, and don't forget to Grover-cise!!"


(Might be the smartest thing we have all heard this week :D )
 
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Grover (from Sesame Street) was just on an evening current affairs TV show here. He skyped in. He said he is good at technology, learned how to tweet from Big Bird.

"It's all going to be okay. It might be scary, but it will be okay. Stay home, stay healthy, and don't forget to Grover-cise!!"


(Might be the smartest thing we have all heard this week :D )

Too late for him to run for President? :)
 
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