Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #67

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #561
In the beginning of all of this, people were laughing about the baby-boom we would see. That certainly went away...

Pregnant women are feeling such anxiety and depression right now. Who wouldn't.

Some countries are recommending two year delays on getting pregnant. What a new world....
Delay pregnancy for two years: Papua New Guinea doctor delivers coronavirus warning

I think that in the beginning of this, February, March, it was "serious", but the information at that time was if we all were "good", stayed home, that this virus would "go away" by Summer. It seemed like, okay, no big deal.

Then, we saw the death rates in New York. But, people were still optimistic.

Now, the "New Approach" from so many people is completely fatalistic. It is going to happen anyway, so move on with our lives.

<modsnip>
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #562
The schools are outdated in terms of "socializing children" anyway. There's absolutely no data that shows children who attend schools are "better socialized." I see no differences, personally, between the homeschooled and the public schooled except, as I said yesterday, the homeschooled kids perform consistently at a higher standard, for whatever reason. Some of it is probably self-selection.

They are very good at leading groups, being in groups, behaving in a social manner, following rules, etc. They have plenty of friends, they are normal.

Kids raised in various parts of the world do very different amounts of schooling than in the US - perhaps we should seek new models.

Probably better if we don't get all the kids and their parents sick at any rate.
It's way, way, WAY past time for the US to seek new models. We're way behind on most education measures and have been for a long time.

I suggest we start with exponents.
 
  • #563
  • #564
The test could be negative upon departure and by the time they land in Hong Kong they could test positive.
I don't think that is likely just in a matter of hours though. Depends how long before they return. Often crews stay overnight before a return flight.
 
  • #565
LA could face 2nd mandatory stay-at-home order if COVID cases continue to rise, Garcetti warns

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Mayor Eric Garcetti is warning that Los Angeles could face a second mandatory stay-at-home order if coronavirus cases and hospitalizations continue to rise.

During a press conference Wednesday, the mayor said the city's color-coded system to describe Angeleno's risk of developing a coronavirus infection was at orange which he said is "bad."

That level indicates people should stay home as much as possible and "assume everyone around you is infectious," he added.

"If things get worse, the dial could turn to red in the coming weeks. That would place us at highest risk of infection and that would likely return to a safer at home order," Garcetti said.
...
 
  • #566
Greece ready to reimpose coronavirus restrictions: Live updates

15:52 GMT - Brazilian press group files criminal complaint against Bolsonaro
The Brazilian Press Association has filed a criminal complaint to the Supreme Court against President Jair Bolsonaro after he took off his mask in a televised interview in which he announced he had tested positive for the novel coronavirus.

Bolsonaro made his announcement on Tuesday. Brazilian broadcasters pulled journalists off the job after they were exposed to Bolsonaro in the interview, quarantining them until they test negative for the disease.

In its complaint, the press association alleged that Bolsonaro had committed at least two crimes related to putting someone's life or health at imminent risk and failing to prevent the spread of an infectious disease.

Who's gonna arrest him?
 
  • #567
With a 1% positivity rate, they really can turn their attention to other tasks at hand. You like moving the goal post around.

You said it couldn't be done, you can see that it IS being done. But it doesn't need to be done everywhere.

It does not have to be done everywhere.

But where needed, it can be done.


I didn't say it couldn't be done. I said IMO they couldn't deal with that and crime. I gave you two examples - one country (UK) and one jurisdiction (NYPD) that had the largest number of deaths in the US to back up my opinion.

My original opinion stated this.

"I don't think LE could police a mandatory mask policy and deal with crime IMO. They're not doing it in some of the jurisdictions already. They're not doing it on UK public transport as we have already heard on here."

<modsnip>
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #568
So is this going to become the new way of life? Open this month, close next month, open again, close again... Every time we get the numbers down and open again, the same people who ignored the guidelines before will ignore them again IMO. Even when masks are mandated, a lot of people are refusing to wear them. If we ever get the numbers down and keep them down, it's gonna take forever.
 
  • #569
Texas bans elective surgeries in more than 100 counties as coronavirus hospitalizations keep climbing

With cases of the new coronavirus and related hospitalizations rising at alarming rates, Gov. Greg Abbott on Thursday expanded his ban on elective medical procedures to cover more than 100 counties across much of the state.

Surgeries and other procedures that are not “immediately, medically” necessary — which have already been on hold in many of the state’s biggest cities and several South Texas counties — are now barred in much of the state, from far West Texas to much of Central Texas, Southeast Texas and the Gulf Coast.
 
  • #570
It's Day 117, and Science Marches On. I don't think this conflict we're having with Science right now, is working out too well. There really is no end in sight.
 
  • #571
Lovin' the graphs especially the moving one near the end.
It's good isn't it? Until I saw that I didn't realise India was now at number 3 behind Brazil and US.
Seeing all the curve graphs in one place is good too. I didn't realise some countries had second peaks.
 
  • #572
:(

Florida teen fighting for her life against COVID-19; family begs people to wear masks

Just two weeks ago, 16-year-old Halene O’Connell was a normal, healthy teenage girl, ready to start the summer before her senior year at Milton High School.

But today, she’s in a coma and on a ventilator fighting for her life at the Studer Family Children’s Hospital at Ascension Sacred Heart in Pensacola, battling a severe case of COVID-19 — and her family is begging the community to wear masks and practice social distancing so they don’t end up in a hospital bed too.

Halene has always been healthy and has no underlying health conditions, according to Barlianto, who previously lived in Pensacola for eight years before moving to Washington.

Fourteen days ago, Halene woke up with a fever and nausea. Her parents took her to a doctor, but since she didn’t have shortness of breath — one of the primary symptoms of coronavirus — she wasn’t immediately tested for COVID-19.

Halene was admitted to the Intensive Care Unit on June 28, put in a medically-induced coma and placed on a ventilator. She’s remained there since, and though she’s now in stable condition, she’s still comatose and requires a ventilator to breathe.

Due to having been in a coma for so long, it’s unclear what path forward Halene faces if and when she wakes up. At the very least, she’ll need to learn how to breathe, eat and walk on her own again, and doctors aren’t sure yet what the long-term implications could be of both the coma and the virus.

She could also become diabetic or have blood clots when she recovers, just a few of the side effects of which little is known about the coronavirus.

“She’s been on the ventilator and sedated for so long, we’re not sure how it’s going to affect her brain,” Barlianto said.

‘COVID just doesn’t care’

It isn’t clear yet where or how Halene initially contracted the virus.

Barlianto said her sister and family weren’t wearing masks before Halene contracted the disease, though the teen herself wasn’t overly social and wasn’t going out and doing much before she got sick.

Halene’s mother and father, Robert and Carrie O’Connell, and her 18-year-old sister, Hailey O’Connell, have all since tested negative for the coronavirus. But Robert and Hailey have still quarantined themselves in their Milton home since Halene fell ill, and Carrie has been in the hospital room with her daughter since day one, not allowed to leave.

Man in famous 9/11 photo dies from COVID-19 in Florida: ‘He was a fighter’,

“They’ve allowed my sister to stay in the room with her since the first day, however, my sister cannot leave because the room is negative pressure so that COVID air will not be released,” Barlianto said. “My sister has been there the whole time and has not left. They’re feeding her and giving her coloring books, but she has nobody. We’re grateful she’s allowed to be in the room, but I know it’s a daily, minute-by-minute roller coaster ride of stress.”

Doctors are constantly coming in and out and trying to figure out new ways to treat young Halene. The teenage has received plasma from a coronavirus survivor that they’re hopeful will help, and they believe she’s at least halfway through her battle at this point and is on an uphill trend to recovery.

Barlianto launched a GoFundMe campaign last week to raise money for her sister’s family since they can’t work at the moment, and since they have “no idea” what the hospital stay will end up costing.


The family is also asking people to share Halene’s story on social media with the hashtag #MaskForYou, and begging people to wear masks when in public and practice social distancing because her story demonstrates that the virus doesn’t discriminate and can infect anyone.

Barlianto added that the virus is emotionally taxing on the entire family, as they can’t visit Halene and Carrie in the hospital room, they can’t send flowers and they can’t call her and ask how she’s doing.

The coronavirus “is nothing like the flu,” Barlianto said, and should be taken more seriously in Florida as it has in Washington state.

“It’s very confusing. COVID just doesn’t care,” Barlianto said. “It’s like, everybody line up, I’ll take you, let’s take you. It’s just taking random people. It’s not for the sick anymore, it’s not just for the elderly. It’s just attacking anybody at any time.”
 
  • #573
Some of the headlines mention return to school as being needed for the proper socialization of children,
But I just wonder about the fear children hold about this return.
The building is no longer safe.
I honestly agree with experts in that school and being amongst classmates is vital and necessary for a child's development. But not at the risk of life. There must be millions of children who have asthma, which wouldn't mix well with Covid and I don't think enough is known about the virus in kids yet. It actually seems to be different in every single patient and victim worldwide. But if parents are being urged to work from home if possible, then it's not safe to be out there. Also, adults are more responsible, I think! and we can take our own measures of protection. I just think it will all be lost on the kids once they enter back into school and are amongst old friends again! By law in the UK, all staff and kids have to have break-time and so without lotsss of extra staff, certainly for some age groups, I don't see how it is possible to keep the kids apart. Especially for little ones who have spent Lockdown with siblings, they just won't 'get it' I don't think. The children at our school have to 'sit out' on their own as punishment in class so they will all feel like they have done something wrong. - I could just be making excuses up though since I personally am not comfortable with the whole thing X
 
  • #574
It took UK and NY roughly 4 months to both get to a similar place. The states having the upticks now may have to prepare for a similar timeframe. UK went into lockdown 23rdMarch and we hit our peak deaths in the week ending 1 May, coming out of lockdown approximately two months after that earlier this month. So we would be looking at October if that was the case in those states also.
 
  • #575
OUC disconnections for nonpayment begin next week but there is help available

ORLANDO, Fla. – Utility companies are resuming disconnections for non-payment as some people begin returning to work despite the ongoing coronavirus pandemic and the rising number of cases in Florida.

The Orlando Utility Commission will begin those cut offs on July 14. Late fees will be reinstated on Aug. 3.

About 25,000 OUC customers are behind on payments, averaging $350 overdue. That’s a lot of money for someone on unemployment or who have had their hours cut due to the economic fallout from the virus.
 
  • #576
I honestly agree with experts in that school and being amongst classmates is vital and necessary for a child's development. But not at the risk of life. There must be millions of children who have asthma, which wouldn't mix well with Covid and I don't think enough is known about the virus in kids yet. It actually seems to be different in every single patient and victim worldwide. But if parents are being urged to work from home if possible, then it's not safe to be out there. Also, adults are more responsible, I think! and we can take our own measures of protection. I just think it will all be lost on the kids once they enter back into school and are amongst old friends again! By law in the UK, all staff and kids have to have break-time and so without lotsss of extra staff, certainly for some age groups, I don't see how it is possible to keep the kids apart. Especially for little ones who have spent Lockdown with siblings, they just won't 'get it' I don't think. The children at our school have to 'sit out' on their own as punishment in class so they will all feel like they have done something wrong. - I could just be making excuses up though since I personally am not comfortable with the whole thing X
In the UK, kids of essential workers have still been going to school since March I believe and some schools went back in June as I know some teachers who went back. There hasn't been any reports nor problems with those kids of essential workers AFAIK.
 
  • #577
I didn't say it couldn't be done. I said IMO they couldn't deal with that and crime. I gave you two examples - one country (UK) and one jurisdiction (NYPD) that had the largest number of deaths in the US to back up my opinion.

My original opinion stated this.

"I don't think LE could police a mandatory mask policy and deal with crime IMO. They're not doing it in some of the jurisdictions already. They're not doing it on UK public transport as we have already heard on here."

Where did I "move the goal posts" when I stated my opinion?
You just dislike opinions other than your own IMO.
No need for the personal attack. IMO
 
  • #578
  • #579
Birmingham, Huntsville breaking coronavirus records as Alabama sees July surge

The Alabama Department of Public Health confirmed a record 2,164 new coronavirus cases in Alabama on Thursday, the first time the state added more than 2,000 cases in a single day. It’s a continuation of a sudden summer climb, as the rolling 7-day average also reached a new high on Thursday.

June was by far Alabama’s worst month for new coronavirus cases to this point in the pandemic - the state added more than 20,000 new cases during that month, more than doubling its case count.

But July is already on pace to smash that record. ADPH has confirmed more than 11,000 new virus cases in just nine days so far this month. A little more than a week into July and that’s already the second most new cases in any one month.
 
  • #580
Status
Not open for further replies.

Staff online

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
134
Guests online
2,607
Total visitors
2,741

Forum statistics

Threads
632,883
Messages
18,633,049
Members
243,327
Latest member
janemot
Back
Top