Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #67

[margarita25]

Kazakhstan: Officials deny reports of 'unknown pneumonia' outbreak more deadly than Covid-19 - CNN

 

[jjenny]

Kazakhstan: Officials deny reports of 'unknown pneumonia' outbreak more deadly than Covid-19 - CNN

Nothing to worry about. It's just covid. I guess it's particularly deadly in Kazakhstan? Because they are not denying their pneumonia deaths are going through the roof, only that the cause is known (covid).

 

[Sundog]

Karol Markowicz: NYC's 'half-school' plan is slap in face to parents

 

[Simply Southern]

208,495 active cases in FL alone right now. I wonder how many of them will die over the next 2-3 weeks? How is that acceptable to them? I don't get it.

Respectfully, I don't think it is acceptable, but a lot of these folks made a choice to go visit, hit up beaches, bars, church, protest, whatever. They chose not to protect themselves or their children.

MOO... With the current state of law enforcement, folks exercising their right to assemble and many other factors, I do understand Governors not issuing mask mandates and laws.

Virginia has a mask "mandate", the governor specifically stated LE NOR the business did NOT have the authority to enforce this. He suggests the business offer a mask and educated the customer. LOL!!!!
Even states with "fines", they are minimum fees...like 25.00 are of little deterrent.

Could we envision an arrest for not wearing a mask? OMG, it would be a civil rights law suit for use. I've see several "security guards" attacking or firing a gun at customers. LE would be tied up 24/7 with mask complaints, it would take a stadium size jail to hold these folks.

MOO...many remember from the first few threads China rounding up folks at gun point and placed them in quarantine centers, sick or not. I watched many videos of citizens drug from their home. China contained the virus but at a huge cost to citizens.

I guess some folks think its "acceptable" to put their life on the line.

MOO....

 

[CharlestonGal]

I had no idea it was that many. School has been out since March and still 11,000 kids have tested positive. And they must have been symptomatic, else why test them in the first place? Wow. They might force schools to open, but I do not think they will be open long. The entire staff will likely be infected within a week.

More than 11,000 children test positive for coronavirus in Florida

(WTXL) — As the Florida Department of Education mandates that public K-12 schools must open in August, thousands of children in Florida are continuing to test positive for COVID-19.

According to the Florida Department of Health's latest data, more than 11,000 children under 18 have tested positive for coronavirus since the pandemic began in March.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

I just wish we could come together and fight together to beat this monster.

That ship has sailed.

 

[jjenny]

Oh absolutely. If schools open, it's a safe bet they will close a couple of weeks later, with covid spreading around. Children absolutely can spread it.

 

[Simply Southern]

I think we need to recognize that some people have no political interest or opinions. There are people out there that are neither red nor blue who strictly follow the guidelines at all times, while there are others who are neither red nor blue who are ignoring the guidelines and could care less if they get covid and pass it to others. There are red people who follow the guidelines and red people who don't. There are blue people who follow the guidelines and blue people who don't. This is 2020, I wish we could quit making generalizations based on politics. Which I fully admit that I've been guilty of myself. I just wish we could come together and fight together to beat this monster.

Totally agree. The media uses the mask as a political issue. IMO

I have red and blue friends wearing mask and red and blue not wearing mask.

I wish folks would wear a mask, as well.

 

[Tillicum]

American Academy of Pediatrics breaks with White House over school reopenings

The American Academy of Pediatrics on Friday flipped its position on reopening schools in the fall, distancing itself from the Trump administration, which cited the organization's initial stance in order to bolster its push to reopen all K-12 brick and mortar schools.

"Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff," the AAP said in a statement. "Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools."

 

[CharlestonGal]

Respectfully, I don't think it is acceptable, but a lot of these folks made a choice to go visit, hit up beaches, bars, church, protest, whatever. They chose not to protect themselves or their children.

MOO... With the current state of law enforcement, folks exercising their right to assemble and many other factors I do understand Governors not issuing mask mandates and laws.

Virginia has a mask "mandate", the governor specifically stated LE NOR the business did NOT have the authority to enforce this. He suggests the business offer a mask and educated the customer. LOL!!!!
Even states with "fines", they are minimum fees...like 25.00 are of little deterrent.

Could we envision an arrest for not wearing a mask? OMG, it would be a civil rights law suit for use. I've see several "security guards" attacking or firing a gun at customers. LE would be tied up 24/7 with mask complaints, it would take a stadium size jail to hold these folks.

MOO...many remember from the first few threads China rounding up folks at gun point and placed them in quarantine centers, sick or not. I watched many videos of citizens drug from their home. China contained the virus but at a huge cost to citizens.

I guess some folks think its "acceptable" to put their life on the line.

MOO....

A number of states (Michigan, for one) are putting businesses in the mask enforcement business. Instead of the authorities being tasked with enforcement, they are fining businesses that do not enforce mask orders.

Gov. Whitmer signs order requiring businesses to enforce face masks or face fine

Governor Gretchen Whitmer signed executive order 2020-147, which reiterates that individuals are required to wear a face covering whenever they are in an indoor public space. It also requires the use of face coverings in crowded outdoor spaces. Most significantly, the order requires any business that is open to the public to refuse entry or service to people who refuse to wear a face covering, with limited exceptions. Governors in the states of Kansas, Maine, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Washington have imposed similar requirements on businesses.

 

[Sundog]

I saw an article earlier than the governor had mandated masks in a number of counties in an attempt to slow it down. So many states are having a rough time.

Our county in Ohio is one of the ones that now has a mask mandate until the spike goes down. We have gone from 52 positive cases to 63 positive cases in the last three weeks. Health Department says it is among 18-24 year olds having parties.

 

[tresir2012]

Studies are showing that 48-67% of various parts of the metropolitan NYC area have already had CoVid.

This too is good news, and is certainly helping keep that positivity rate much lower. The numbers surprised the researchers.

Can you link the study? The one I have seen estimated 25%, way below the 67% needed for herd immunity according to Dr Scott Gottlieb.

Source below -

Roughly 25% of New York City has probably been infected with coronavirus, Dr. Scott Gottlieb says

 

[Simply Southern]

Kazakhstan: Officials deny reports of 'unknown pneumonia' outbreak more deadly than Covid-19 - CNN

This is how Covid began....

 

[Tillicum]

Our county in Ohio is one of the ones that now has a mask mandate until the spike goes down. We have gone from 52 positive cases to 63 positive cases in the last three weeks. Health Department says it is among 18-24 year olds having parties.

I noticed that DeWine said masks are mandatory during ride sharing. Is that normal for mask mandates?

 

[SoCalDavidS]

I noticed that DeWine said masks are mandatory during ride sharing. Is that normal for mask mandates?

It is here in CA.

 

[MrX]

I just had an interesting chat (maybe horrifying is a better word?)

I was at lunch and congratulated the restaurant manager on not getting shut down yesterday. She said "I think they should shut everything down." Intrigued and surprised, I mentioned what is happening in Melbourne. She replied "oh, not like that. Let's close things for a week or two and knock this thing out." The next sound was my jaw hitting the floor. Here is someone who's career hangs in the balance, as her business will be next if there are anymore closures, and she is completely clueless.

We may often disagree on this forum, but at least everyone here endeavors to stay informed.

 

[CharlestonGal]

This is how Covid began....

Yeah, and I think they are not pleased that China outed them. jmo

 

[CharlestonGal]

I noticed that DeWine said masks are mandatory during ride sharing. Is that normal for mask mandates?

Both Lyft and Uber have required masks for all drivers and passengers nationwide since last May.

 

[Simply Southern]

American Academy of Pediatrics breaks with White House over school reopenings

The American Academy of Pediatrics on Friday flipped its position on reopening schools in the fall, distancing itself from the Trump administration, which cited the organization's initial stance in order to bolster its push to reopen all K-12 brick and mortar schools.

"Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff," the AAP said in a statement. "Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools."

I found the initial position on need to reopen schools odd, especially with no reference or consideration of health safety.

Our schools have become more than education centers. They are expected to meet needs for full nutritional support, physical and mental abuse, medical care, emotional support, full support for all handicapped students and many provide daycare/after school care. They are social service centers providing education on the side, in some areas.

How much can we continue to add to our school systems, teachers and students? Teachers can't teach effectively when managing so many aspect of many children's lives. How can we ask them to be on the front line, trying to protect students and themselves from those they know are living in an environment they could bring Covid right into the classroom? How do they handle the parent who says, my kid ain't wearing no mask, or kids coming to school sick and the parent can't be located for hours? Kids home sick in an undesirable environment, trying to recover, needing food or fluids? How do we handle these type situations?

There is way more to this school reopening than folks are looking at. The guidelines are for health safety, I'm not sure anyone, other than teachers are looking at the big picture.

MOO....

 

[CharlestonGal]

Inundated Houston hospitals issue grim advisory to ambulances: Go elsewhere

HOUSTON — Houston hospitals have been forced to treat hundreds of COVID-19 patients in their emergency rooms — sometimes for several hours or multiple days — as they scramble to open additional intensive care beds for the wave of seriously ill people streaming through their doors, according to internal numbers shared with NBC News and ProPublica.

At the same time, the region’s 12 busiest hospitals are increasingly telling emergency responders that they cannot safely accept new patients, at a rate nearly three times that of a year ago, according to data reviewed by reporters.

The increase in ambulance diversions, coupled with the spike in patients being held indefinitely in emergency rooms, are the latest indicators that Houston hospitals are straining to keep up with a surge of new coronavirus patients. ProPublica and NBC News have previously reported that a public hospital in Houston ran out of a medication to treat COVID-19 patients and that a spike in at-home deaths from cardiac arrest suggests that the death toll from the coronavirus may be higher than official statistics show.