Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #68

[CoverMeCagney]

We could be in a good place in four weeks time. Could be. But that would require the immediate implementation of a cohesive, sound plan and round of mandates that do not appear forthcoming, sadly.

There are no brakes on this train. jmo

I know, I know. His sentiment is right but I believe in realism over optimism in a situation like this. Does he think people don’t read the news or look at the stats? It’s very worrying.

 

[JerseyGirl]

These California doctors flew to New York to fight Covid-19. Here's what they learned.

Back in April, Dr. Hartwell Lin heard stories of how surges of coronavirus patients were overwhelming New York City hospitals. He felt largely ineffective at his quiet California hospital, so he volunteered to venture into the heart of America's coronavirus epicenter.

After two weeks at Coney Island Hospital, Lin came back to his colleagues with first-hand knowledge of how to handle a Covid-19 outbreak.

"What we brought back, which is super helpful, is a degree of reassurance," he said.

"There's a tremendous amount of relief that (colleagues) know that what we're doing at our site locally is at least (as good), if not better, than what we were doing in New York in terms of personal protection, and everyone was fine in New York."

"Their biggest issue was they had to find ways to scale that expertise and bring in other physicians that were not necessarily board certified in critical care, but could help and assist, with oversight by critical care (doctors)," Lin said.

He said that model was successful in New York and that he was working to implement a similar crash course in case of a surge at his hospital, John Muir Health in Concord, California.

 

[mickey2942]

Georgia governor and Atlanta mayor at odds over coronavirus guidelines - CNNPolitics

I don't like how polarized and political this situation has become. One would think that as Governor, he would support the decisions of local government officials. And since a field hospital has been set up in Atlanta, how can any one fault the mayor for more caution?

Georgia governor reopens coronavirus field hospital at Atlanta convention center

 

[JerseyGirl]

Virginia sees 851 new coronavirus cases, now reporting 69,782 statewide

As of Satuday, the Virginia Dept. of Health reports there have been 866,257 total testing encounters.

The term “testing encounters” includes individuals who have been tested more than once due to their profession, high-risk status or need for a negative result to return to work. The health department started using this metric on May 1. To learn more, click here.

 

[Victoria Chambers]

I know, I know. His sentiment is right but I believe in realism over optimism in a situation like this. Does he think people don’t read the news or look at the stats? It’s very worrying.

It is very worrying, I agree. When the European Countries began to surge in the way we are seeing it now in the US, it went on way beyond 3 weeks. Seemed to last month's. I hope it is not the case for you all. But I think, even if 'everybody' were on the same page, yous would still have a job given the overall population number. It is immense X

 

[JerseyGirl]

For first time, U.S. records more than 70,000 new coronavirus cases in single day

The United States saw another record day for new coronavirus cases, surpassing 70,000 for the first time.

The record high came follows multiple case peaks since June, including 45,557 single-day diagnoses reported June 24, a 45,942 one-day increase June 27 and more than 46,500 new cases recorded Tuesday.

California reported 7,798 new cases Friday, and state officials said they're considering releasing about 8,000 inmates from a prison system battered by the virus.

In South Florida, NBC Miami reported hat seven area hospitals have no intensive care beds available as a result of being inundated with virus patients.

Texas reported 95 coronavirus-related deathsFriday as Gov. Greg Abbott warned that the state would revert to a "lockdown" if the numbers don't improve and mask-wearing doesn't become more widespread.

In Houston, the region's 12 busiest hospitals are increasingly turning down new emergency room patients and have been using the space for coronavirus intensive care.

The three U.S. counties with the highest number of daily cases Friday are Los Angeles, Chicago's Cook, the Phoenix area's Maricopa, respectively, according to Johns Hopkins University of Medicine.

 

[gitana1]

BBM - beyond shocking imo. Subsequent posts did not clarify this imo. I do agree with the statement 'We can prevent a lot of that'.


President Trump broke with top infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci on Tuesday by saying the U.S. is in a "good place" in its fight against the coronavirus pandemic.

Trump breaks with Fauci: US in 'good place' in fight against virus

President Donald Trump on Tuesday rebuked Dr. Anthony Fauci's blunt assessment of the US' coronavirus response, claiming that the country is "in a good place" even as new cases surge.

"We've done a good job," the President said. "I think we are going to be in two, three, four weeks, by the time we next speak, I think we're going to be in very good shape."

Trump rebukes Fauci's coronavirus assessment: 'I think we are in a good place' - CNNPolitics

Again, pandemics don’t last forever. He was grabbing onto that sentiment. “One day it will just disappear.”

Well again, that’s actually true. We had waves of polio. They were terrible and then they just disappeared. Same with yellow fever. H1N1 took a hundred years to come back with any kind of vigor. And it still wasn’t close to as deadly as in 1918.

Pandemics do end. And I can’t wait for that.

But, yes. I disagree with him that we’ve done a good job. It’s been abysmal. We can’t undo the damage the terrible response has created but we can try to prevent more.

And I hope we do until this is over.

 

[155etta]

You wouldn’t be the only one! Because of Dr Fauci’s integrity and obvious “kindness, decency and concern” as you put it, he is the only one on the task force I trust implicitly to tell the truth. All I hear with the rest of them are what I call “weasel words” so they stay out of trouble. They sound good, but I’m afraid they’ve sold their souls...even Dr Birx to some degree.

"Weasel words", oh my holy cow, you've nailed it!

 

[gitana1]

Herman Cain is still in the hospital as well. Must be going on about 10 days now? I hope he's doing better.

That’s scary. I wonder if he has been thinking twice about the decision to go into that crowd at the rally, unmasked?

Is a 10 day hospital stay worth it?

 

[gitana1]

You wouldn’t be the only one! Because of Dr Fauci’s integrity and obvious “kindness, decency and concern” as you put it, he is the only one on the task force I trust implicitly to tell the truth. All I hear with the rest of them are what I call “weasel words” so they stay out of trouble. They sound good, but I’m afraid they’ve sold their souls...even Dr Birx to some degree.

He’s also so calm and unruffled and steadfast in the face of all the nonsense. <modsnip>

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Again, pandemics don’t last forever. He was grabbing onto that sentiment. “One day it will just disappear.”

Well again, that’s actually true. We had waves of polio. They were terrible and then they just disappeared. Same with yellow fever. H1N1 took a hundred years to come back with any kind of vigor. And it still wasn’t close to as deadly as in 1918.

Pandemics do end. And I can’t wait for that.

But, yes. I disagree with him that we’ve done a good job. It’s been abysmal. We can’t undo the damage the terrible response has created but we can try to prevent more.

And I hope we do until this is over.

Of course pandemics will end. If anyone thinks that a pandemic can last forever I like to get an explanation on how that works.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I doubt that he is stupid, considering he is the Medical Director of the Hospital ICU. And I would consider patients with this virus as 'victims' here on WS.

Eh. Working all day in a covid ICU then coming home and hosting family parties without precautions is not the wisest course of action by a doctor. As he found out.

It sounds like he learned from it, at least, and will not be doing that in the future.

ETA: At least none of the family members he infected died. I imagine he would have felt some kind of way about that for the rest of his life if that had happened.

 

[musicaljoke]

Again, pandemics don’t last forever. He was grabbing onto that sentiment. “One day it will just disappear.”

Well again, that’s actually true. We had waves of polio. They were terrible and then they just disappeared. Same with yellow fever. H1N1 took a hundred years to come back with any kind of vigor. And it still wasn’t close to as deadly as in 1918.

Pandemics do end. And I can’t wait for that.

But, yes. I disagree with him that we’ve done a good job. It’s been abysmal. We can’t undo the damage the terrible response has created but we can try to prevent more.

And I hope we do until this is over.

A key element of the sentiment that "one day it will just disappear", is that it took years of unified determination from every part of the world to eradicate these diseases. That background work should not be underestimated, or it creates the false idea that the diseases just disappeared like the dew in the morning. Polio for instance, has taken decades, and is still lingering, even though the whole world was vaccinated. We are still working on eradicating the disease.

GPEI-Homepage

 

[JerseyGirl]

He’s also so calm and unruffled and steadfast in the face of all the nonsense. Sort of like a very patient parent of an out of control toddler.

Meet the man leading America’s fight against coronavirus - and an anti-science White House

For his efforts, he has earned the nickname of “explainer-in-chief.”

 

[musicaljoke]

Of course pandemics will end. If anyone thinks that a pandemic can last forever I like to get an explanation on how that works.

CoVid will end with continued effort and focus on eradication, or it will come roaring back.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...rom-roaring-back-as-ontario-reopens-1.5639459

 

[Deleted member 39678]

CoVid will end with continued effort and focus on eradication, or it will come roaring back.

Yes. And with these efforts this pandemic will end.

 

[CeeCeeCat]

These latest numbers are horrific.
Sometimes it’s easy to forget that each number is a person, with a history, a career, hopes, dreams, a family, friends, pets...

I keep thinking about a heartbreaking article I read when the virus was new to us. The article was told from the point of view of a Nurse working in ICU in New York. The Nurse wrote about a young woman who had died shortly after admittance. Perhaps it struck a chord with me, because it could’ve been me. She wrote (I’m paraphrasing), ‘just last week, this was someone with a career, with dreams, with a family...with a cherry-flavour lip balm in her bag...’
Heartbreaking.

 

[Bravo]

I worry for parts where there seems to be a lack of effort. Evident in the rapid rising cases.

 

[JerseyGirl]

... I keep thinking about a heartbreaking article I read when the virus was new to us. The article was told from the point of view of a Nurse working in ICU in New York. The Nurse wrote about a young woman who had died shortly after admittance. Perhaps it struck a chord with me, because it could’ve been me. She wrote (I’m paraphrasing), ‘just last week, this was someone with a career, with dreams, with a family...with a cherry-flavour lip balm in her bag...’
Heartbreaking.

An I.C.U. Nurse’s Coronavirus Diary

 

[SouthAussie]

CoVid will end with continued effort and focus on eradication, or it will come roaring back.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...rom-roaring-back-as-ontario-reopens-1.5639459

Exactly, it is not going to end anytime in the foreseeable future when people can't even take the measures that finally ended the 1918/1919/1920 pandemic.

They wore masks, they closed theatres and schools and borders. Public spaces were disinfected. It had a second wave, and a third wave.

It is not going to just 'end' all by itself.

What lessons can we learn from the end of the Spanish flu pandemic?