Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #68

[Rocco]

The problem is, they gave those tickets out through a lottery across the nation. Many people were from out of state, including my friend and his son who won some tickets. I haven’t checked to see if he’s sick yet because I’m completely disgusted with his stupidity in going.

How many people were from out of state versus how many people who attended were from South Dakota?

 

[musicaljoke]

NYC Issues New Face Covering Guidance; Cuomo OKs School Reopening If Infections Low
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During his daily briefing, the mayor called on President Trump again to deploy the Defense Product Act to mobilize resources to meet the demands of virus prevention and treatment in the county.

I assume Cuomo is talking about PPE, and probably drugs and medical supplies. There were irregularities in the distribution of supplies from the Feds to the States that caused Cuomo to be very concerned back in March or April. From what I recall, the Feds were resistant to acquiring supplies through the Defence Production Act, which would provide supplies at the manufacturing cost.

Instead of all the supplies being distributed to the States thru FEMA according to the most urgent need, the States were in some kind of bidding war with one another and with the Feds to get the supplies from wherever they could, which, by the time they bought them, were at greatly inflated prices. N95 masks which normally cost less than $1.00 were being bought by the States for up to $8.00 each. Someone was making a huge profit, possibly billions of dollars. Who was it that benefited?

States are bidding against each other and the federal government for important medical supplies — and it's driving up prices

 

[Deleted member 158085]

How many people were from out of state versus how many people who attended were from South Dakota?

Probably more than you think. More than I expected, for sure. These numbers should give some idea of percentages of participants.

More than 125,000 tickets requested for Mount Rushmore Fourth of July fireworks

 

[Rocco]

Probably more than you think. More than I expected, for sure. These numbers should give some idea of percentages of participants.

More than 125,000 tickets requested for Mount Rushmore Fourth of July fireworks

That link only tells how many applicants from each state requested tickets. It doesn't state how many people from out of state attended.

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[anneg]

I'm happy to see him out there, continuing to fight the good fight despite personal adversity. Good man, there. jmo

Sorry to have missed this.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

That link only tells how many applicants from each state requested tickets. It doesn't state how many people from out of state attended.

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I never said it did. I said it should give us an idea.

While I like a bit of good news, I really prefer to have that news based on solid facts. My point is that the facts that it was mostly locals is really shaky. Sorry, but critical thinking and analysis is important to me, and knowing how many out of state applicants there were changes my analysis of the situation.

 

[CSIDreamer]

That link only tells how many applicants from each state requested tickets. It doesn't state how many people from out of state attended.

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I personally know 4 people from Colorado that attended. They're all fine.

 

[zecats]

Ooooof.......didn’t people get the memo that we had a similar pandemic in 1918 ?

We all here saw this coming months ago.....

Let me guess....now I’m only guessing here, but......the schools will all reopen......then more people will get sick.....

I’ll call it the second wave......and it will be worse than the first wave....


Hello everybody.....I’m still in my lock down mode....and watching.

The boardwalk is full of non masked people.

The boardwalk has an unusual and over abundant smell of ...marijuana......I hear....hehe

Stay safe all.

Not just the boardwalk..which I have not ventured anywhere near. But the beach - well then it's not just salt air I've been smelling.

 

[Rocco]

I never said it did. I said it should give us an idea.

While I like a bit of good news, I really prefer to have that news based on solid facts. My point is that the facts that it was mostly locals is really shaky. Sorry, but critical thinking and analysis is important to me, and knowing how many out of state applicants there were changes my analysis of the situation.

What solid facts did you post---how many people applied for tickets? Not sure why that's useful information. I would think how many people from SD attended vs people from out of state would be critical information. How can you analyze information when you guess.

Good on SD for not having an outbreak after the gathering. I'm sure the people of the state, and others, are delighted.

 

[musicaljoke]

How confident are you that the number of positive cases reported in your region are accurate?

 

[Deleted member 158085]

What solid facts did you post---how many people applied for tickets? Not sure why that's useful information. I would think how many people from SD attended vs people from out of state would be critical information. How can you analyze information when you guess.

Good on SD for not having an outbreak after the gathering. I'm sure the people of the state, and others, are delighted.

When over half of the tickets that were applied for are from out of state, the odds are pretty good that a large portion of attendees were from out of state. Disagree with that analysis if you’d like.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

How confident are you that the number of positive cases reported in your region are accurate?

I’m not at all confident. Supposedly there were only 5 cases in the next town over, but unless I actually know all five of those people, there were more. I’m just not clear on how presumed positives are being reported. One of my friends tested positive in March and then her sick family members were presumed positive. Did they all get counted? Who knows.

 

[Rocco]

How confident are you that the number of positive cases reported in your region are accurate?

Me? In my region? Very confident. Our state is having massive free testing at drive up locations all over the state and anyone can get tested--no per-requisites. Reports are posted daily and specifics as to county, age, if it was a second test, etc. are given. We have among the lowest numbers in the nation as far as positive tests, deaths, and hospitalizations. Although IMO, there are still not enough people wearing masks when out in public. It's not required. I think it should be.

 

[margarita25]

Ty for posting that.
So 5 of 5 doctors chosen by NBC nightly news have no qualms about sending kids back to school. The one doctor recommends face masks for high school students.

Yes, but IMO this doesn’t reflect the opinion of all pediatricians, moo.

 

[JerseyGirl]

NFL unveils Oakley Mouth Shield to combat virus

 

[Rocco]

When over half of the tickets that were applied for are from out of state, the odds are pretty good that a large portion of attendees were from out of state. Disagree with that analysis if you’d like.

What do you base that on? Do you have examples that have shown that to be true?

 

[Reasonable & Just]

What solid facts did you post---how many people applied for tickets? Not sure why that's useful information. I would think how many people from SD attended vs people from out of state would be critical information. How can you analyze information when you guess.

Good on SD for not having an outbreak after the gathering. I'm sure the people of the state, and others, are delighted.

Too soon to say, IMO. We heard the exact same thing about the mass protests in June.

 

[margarita25]

Coronavirus warning from Italy: Effects of COVID-19 could be worse than first thought

The long-term effects of COVID-19, even on people who suffered a mild infection, could be far worse than was originally anticipated, according to researchers and doctors in northern Italy.

Psychosis, insomnia, kidney disease, spinal infections, strokes, chronic tiredness and mobility issues are being identified in former coronavirus patients in Lombardy, the worst-affected region in the country.

The doctors warn that some victims may never recover from the illness and that all age groups are vulnerable.

"At first, initially, we thought it was a bad flu, then we thought it was a bad flu with a very bad pneumonia, it was the phase when you came here, but subsequently we discovered that it is a systemic illness with vessel damage in the whole body with renal involvement, cerebral involvement," he told me in the now silent COVID-19 emergency room that was overwhelmed a few months ago.

"And also now we see a significant proportion of the population with chronic damage from the virus."

Doctors believe that even the youngest and mildest infected are at risk of their lives being changed forever, and it could take years to become apparent. Whole workforces could become less productive as a consequence.

The advice from Italy is simple: Don't get infected.

Wow...this is powerful, and scary.

Also, “spinal infections”? That’s one I haven’t heard, I don’t think.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

I assume Cuomo is talking about PPE, and probably drugs and medical supplies. There were irregularities in the distribution of supplies from the Feds to the States that caused Cuomo to be very concerned back in March or April. From what I recall, the Feds were resistant to acquiring supplies through the Defence Production Act, which would provide supplies at the manufacturing cost.

Instead of all the supplies being distributed to the States thru FEMA according to the most urgent need, the States were in some kind of bidding war with one another and with the Feds to get the supplies from wherever they could, which, by the time they bought them, were at greatly inflated prices. N95 masks which normally cost less than $1.00 were being bought by the States for up to $8.00 each. Someone was making a huge profit, possibly billions of dollars. Who was it that benefited?

States are bidding against each other and the federal government for important medical supplies — and it's driving up prices

Exactly. And what's going to happen now that schools need PPE? More gouging?

 

[margarita25]

U.S. students are at 'higher risk' from the coronavirus than kids in other countries, Dr. Scott Gottlieb says

Children in the U.S. are more likely than kids in other countries to have underlying conditions that place them at an increased risk of becoming severely sick with Covid-19, complicating the U.S. debate over how and whether to reopen schools this fall.

Yes, obesity is certainly one, imo.