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Why not? We were at almost 1000 yesterday and the deaths are just beginning to head upwards in linear fashion in more than a dozen states.

Why are you so doubtful that we won't average 1000 or 1200 or 700?

We are already at 640+ today and the day isn't even over!

Anyway, I'm curious what you think will change the behavior of Americans. I'd love to hear something optmistic but also realistic.
We're going to make 700 a day easy. I don't think anyone disputes that at this point. I think that's part of what we are supposed to just "learn to live with". jmo
 
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We're going to make 700 a day easy. I don't think anyone disputes that at this point. I think that's part of what we are supposed to just "learn to live with". jmo

Considering the lowest 7-Day Average we had was over 4th of July weekend at 510 Deaths per day, I think even 700 is being optimistic. The 7-Day average as of yesterday is 712.
 
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OK that's all good, but now it will not be public info.

The public info that we, the taxpayers (those who bother to pay them, anyway), paid $10.2 million for, in a no-bid contract. Why do we have to just hope this private company will give us access to unaltered data in a timely fashion?
 
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Jamie Apody

Jamie is the main sports broadcaster for WPVI, 6ABC Philadelphia.
#BREAKING

The Mayor of Philadelphia just sent out this tweet: "The public events moratorium announced yesterday was specific to those requiring a permit—like festivals and parades. Sporting events will be determined by the team and City based on current guidance as COVID-19 evolves. The Eagles will continue to communicate directly with fans."

This paves the way for the Eagles to have fans at the Linc this season. Other teams have announced they plan to fill their stadiums to 20% capacity as long as their local states/municipalities allow it. I feel like there should be a blanket rule across the NFL so as not to have some teams with a home field advantage and others without. What do you think? Would you go to a game if socially distanced?
 
  • #245
You also saw my link in response to your post showing info updated as of June 14th this morning. Updated daily. You were only looking at the weekly summative report. Not the daily cases.
Who uses the CDC data on here? I have only seen Muddy Tires quote it. And today is July 15th.
 
  • #246
Who uses the CDC data on here? I have only seen Muddy Tires quote it. And today is July 15th.
Yes, sorry for the typo! - the data were reported as updated on July 14th, as of my time checking it the morning of today, July 15th. You saw the links, so fortunately, my typo wasn't too confusing (I hope!)
 
  • #247
Who uses the CDC data on here? I have only seen Muddy Tires quote it. And today is July 15th.

I use my state's dashboard and worldmeters.
 
  • #248
Well that's just daft. The CDC data is often behind. That's why we use JHU and Worldometers.

Anyway hot off the press. We will have a vaccine in the fall probably, according to Alex Azar.

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar says he is optomistic COVID-19 vaccine could be available by fall | abc7chicago.com

HHS SECRETARY OPTIMISTIC THAT COVID-19 VACCINE COULD BE AVAILABLE BY FALL, VISITS RUSH UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER
Azar downplayed concerns about politics, COVID-19, blames surge of southern cases on bad behavior

By Craig Wall
Tuesday, July 14, 2020 6:40PM CT
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"We could be looking at tens of millions, even 100 million doses of vaccine, this fall, and many hundreds of millions of doses by early next year."
CHICAGO (WLS) -- The Secretary of Health and Human Services visited Chicago Tuesday to see how doctors and nurses in the city have handled the COVID-19 crisis.

Secretary Alex Azar said he was optimistic that a vaccine for the virus could be available as soon as this fall.

On Tuesday, researchers with Moderna and the National Institutes Of Health announced that an experimental vaccine successfully produced antibodies in all 45 patients involved in testing.
It appears Mr Azar has been misinformed.

"This is an essential building block that is needed to move forward with the trials that could actually determine whether the vaccine does protect against infection," said Dr. Lisa Jackson of the Kaiser Permanente Washington Research Institute in Seattle, who led the study.

There's no guarantee but the government hopes to have results around the end of the year — record-setting speed for developing a vaccine.

He called the early results "a good first step," and is optimistic that final testing could deliver answers about whether it's really safe and effective by the beginning of next year.

"It would be wonderful. But that assumes everything's working right on schedule," Schaffner cautioned.

And Tuesday's results only included younger adults. The first-step testing later was expanded to include dozens of older adults, the age group most at risk from COVID-19. Those results aren't public yet but regulators are evaluating them, and Fauci said final testing will include older adults, as well as people with chronic health conditions that make them more vulnerable to the virus — and Black and Latino populations likewise affected.

Moderna's coronavirus vaccine ready to advance to final phase of testing
 
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The public info that we, the taxpayers (those who bother to pay them, anyway), paid $10.2 million for, in a no-bid contract. Why do we have to just hope this private company will give us access to unaltered data in a timely fashion?
Do we know it was a no bid contract? Have you a link to the $10.2 million contract?
 
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It appears Mr Azar has been misinformed.

"This is an essential building block that is needed to move forward with the trials that could actually determine whether the vaccine does protect against infection," said Dr. Lisa Jackson of the Kaiser Permanente Washington Research Institute in Seattle, who led the study.

There's no guarantee but the government hopes to have results around the end of the year — record-setting speed for developing a vaccine.

He called the early results "a good first step," and is optimistic that final testing could deliver answers about whether it's really safe and effective by the beginning of next year.

"It would be wonderful. But that assumes everything's working right on schedule," Schaffner cautioned.

And Tuesday's results only included younger adults. The first-step testing later was expanded to include dozens of older adults, the age group most at risk from COVID-19. Those results aren't public yet but regulators are evaluating them, and Fauci said final testing will include older adults, as well as people with chronic health conditions that make them more vulnerable to the virus — and Black and Latino populations likewise affected.

Moderna's coronavirus vaccine ready to advance to final phase of testing
I will go with the Deputy Director of HHS quote. 45 persons is dozens and it looks like he just made that public 1 hr ago.
 
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  • #255
I will go with the Deputy Director of HHS quote. 45 persons is dozens and it looks like he just made that public 1 hr ago.
I doubt anything has changed since publication of the article at July 15, 2020 / 12:51 PM / CBS/AP
 
  • #256
I will go with the Deputy Director of HHS quote. 45 persons is dozens and it looks like he just made that public 1 hr ago.
I prefer to trust those that don't make comments such as this comment made by Azar on July 7th.

AZAR: “We have health care workers, they don’t get infected because they take appropriate precautions.”
But tens of thousands of health care workers have been infected and hundreds have died.
Source: Azar Lies: Health Care Workers Don’t Get Infected - Democrats
Anyone that makes a comment/traffics in such misinformation like the one above (and so recently) doesn't have much creditibility.
 
  • #257
Most of us here have been shut down since March 10-15. Some people sheltered before that. Some places have no shutdowns at all in the US, but that doesn't mean people aren't using common sense to keep themselves safe - they surely are.

So, for many of us, it's 4 months - but as you can see, things are getting worse, not better. Because aside from NY/NJ and adjacent states, no one really shut down.
Are you in California? I thought you had opened?
 
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I prefer to trust those that don't make comments such as this comment made by Azar on July 7th.

AZAR: “We have health care workers, they don’t get infected because they take appropriate precautions.”
But tens of thousands of health care workers have been infected and hundreds have died.
Source: Azar Lies: Health Care Workers Don’t Get Infected - Democrats
Anyone that makes a comment/traffics is such misinformation like the one above (and so recently) doesn't have much creditibility.
That's not a MSM source Is it?
 
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