Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #72

[Clair Louise]

It wouldn't surprise me if there is widespread famine worldwide later this year.

For sure, but we will just think, (not aiming at you, me also) isn't that awful and go on with our comfortable lives.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

With the recommended supplements in regards to building the immune system for covid, I feel relatively comfortable with my B,C,D, and NAC.... Even with Zinc, I read that you don't take it unless you start to get symptoms.

But can you explain more about how the C messed with you. I am not sure what the interstitial cystitis with the C. And what did the D do with your skin? Can you share how much C you took, or how much you feel is dangerous.. Sometimes I do feel something is "eating" at my stomach...but not sure what it is (Now that I am forbidden to ever ever take nsaids again!!). Going to gastro doc for colonoscopy followup tomorrow so will probably ask her too... I just think I have not done enough research with C.

Getting Vitamin C The Low Acid Way - Interstitial Cystitis Network

Rosacea Linked to Serum Vitamin D Levels, Polymorphisms in Vitamin D Receptors - Dermatology Advisor

 

[Deleted member 158085]

RSBM



I don’t think the issue with the video is the drug itself, but the claim that we don’t need to do anything else to prevent covid since it will just cure everyone.

And maybe the fact that some of those doctors really misrepresented themselves.

 

[SouthAussie]

Some people are just plain hard work. And to think that this was all started by a Victorian security guard who did wrong.


Today Queensland has shut out people from the Greater Sydney area (about 5,000,000 people), due to all of the clusters in the Sydney area.
And Queensland has its own problem, due to 2 people who went to Victoria, gave misleading info to authorities upon return, and stayed out in the Qld community for 8 days while covid positive. The Qld Premier is furious.

"We do not want a second wave here. We do not want widespread community transmission,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said in announcing the declaration.
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/heal...-amid-further-coronavirus-outbreaks-c-1201377


Also, Victorian defence force and health dept workers are door-knocking every single covid case there. To make sure that they are at home and make sure that they understand their obligation to stay home.
29 people have been busted for not being at home when door-knocked.
NoCookies | The Australian

 

[HongKongPhooey]

My parcel of face masks has just arrived
It's in the back room now for a few days and I've sanitised the door knob, screen door handle and then my hands.
Yay! I'm no longer waiting and I have 50 disposable masks for just in case. I'm all set

And they'll be handy if we get that horrible, weird bushfire smoke again. Most people stayed inside on the worst days and the smoke even reached New Zealand.
You could smell it strongly inside even when there were no bushfires in your area.

So glad your parcel arrived and you could relax. As you say, all set now and you dont need to think about it again unles you need them.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Thanks HongKongPhooey !

Yes the quest to get some is now over and no longer living rent free in my mind

So glad your parcel arrived and you could relax. As you say, all set now and you dont need to think about it again unles you need them.

 

[tmar]

UK PM warns Europe is seeing signs of 'second wave'

UK PM warns Europe is seeing signs of 'second wave'

Sky News Australia

8 hrs ago
...
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has warned there are signs Europe may be seeing the beginning of a second wave of the coronavirus.

Concern has grown over a possible resurgence of virus cases in Europe as Spain recorded 12,000 new infections in a week, prompting some countries to update their travel advice.
“What we have to do is take swift and decisive action where we think that the risks are starting to bubble up again,” Mr Johnson said.

“Let’s be absolutely clear about what’s happening in Europe … I’m afraid you are starting to see in some places the signs of a second wave of the pandemic.”

 

[tresir2012]

I believe they are still trialing it here. I can’t find anything later than mid-June though to see how it’s going https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/heal...hing-drug-for-coronavirus-treatment-c-1104321

From your link.

"But the Walter+Eliza Hall Institute in Melbourne said on Tuesday it would continue its trial on 2,250 health workers.

The trial received $3 million from the federal government for the research three months ago.

“Our research is trialling hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic on healthy people,” a spokeswoman for the institute told 7NEWS.com.au.

“So we are looking at whether the drug can prevent people from contracting the virus.

“The FDA has halted trials examining whether hydroxychloroquine can cure COVID-19.”

"The FDA also warned on Monday that the decades-old anti-malaria pills have been shown in lab studies to interfere with another antiviral drug, remdesivir."

So it interferes with Remdesivir. That is why FDA have pulled HXC and the video has been pulled by FB IMO. Isn't Remdesivir backed by Gates?

Here's today's BBC link about this subject.

Why a video promoted by Trump was pulled on social media

 

[tresir2012]

They can't leave it, needs a signature and anyway my house is so close to the street, I try not to get anything just left here
I got an sms this morning early and texted back that i will be here. But they don't give you a time frame
Usually here AusPost delivers parcels between 12 and 1pm. But not always.
My old house it was between 7 and 7.30am and I hated it.
They've done away with the signature now due to the virus, they just need to see you, usually the same guy who knows me, when it's not him sometimes I have to show ID.

Yes our UK postman signs post for me now because of the virus.

 

[tresir2012]

• Some people are just plain hard work. And to think that this was all started by a Victorian security guard who did wrong.

RSBM

Is the result of the investigation out now?

I see it is not reconvening till Aug.

COVID-19 Hotel Quarantine Inquiry

Here's a link to the hearings and transcripts.

 

[Legally Bland]

"The FDA also warned on Monday that the decades-old anti-malaria pills have been shown in lab studies to interfere with another antiviral drug, remdesivir."

So it interferes with Remdesivir. That is why FDA have pulled HXC and the video has been pulled by FB IMO. Isn't Remdesivir backed by Gates?

Here's today's BBC link about this subject.

Why a video promoted by Trump was pulled on social media

RSBM. From FDA:

Q. Did the new information about a potential drug interaction between remdesivir and hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) contribute to the revocation of the EUA?

A. FDA’s action to revoke the EUA authorizing the use of hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) to treat certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19 was taken based on FDA’s ongoing assessment of available scientific information associated with the authorized emergency use of these products. Revocation of an EUA may occur when the statutory criteria for authorization are no longer met. The potential drug interaction between remdesivir and HCQ/CQ is not the basis for the revocation of the EUA.​

https://www.fda.gov/media/138946/download

UBM.

 

[SouthAussie]

RSBM. From FDA:

Q. Did the new information about a potential drug interaction between remdesivir and hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) contribute to the revocation of the EUA?

A. FDA’s action to revoke the EUA authorizing the use of hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) to treat certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19 was taken based on FDA’s ongoing assessment of available scientific information associated with the authorized emergency use of these products. Revocation of an EUA may occur when the statutory criteria for authorization are no longer met. The potential drug interaction between remdesivir and HCQ/CQ is not the basis for the revocation of the EUA.​

https://www.fda.gov/media/138946/download

UBM.

Yes. The FDA says the reason they revoked the use of HCQ and CQ are that the potential benefits no longer outweigh the risks.


Specifically, FDA has determined that CQ and HCQ are unlikely to be effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA. Additionally, in light of ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and other serious side effects, the known and potential benefits of CQ and HCQ no longer outweigh the known and potential risks for the authorized use. This warrants revocation of the EUA for HCQ and CQ for the treatment of COVID-19.

EUA Archive

 

[ZoriahNZ]

States are running out of doctors and nurses as COVID-19 surges

Arizona and Texas are projected to face shortages of doctors who work in intensive care units next month, according to a recent report by researchers at George Washington University. Researchers estimate that more than 100 percent of the states’ intensive care doctors will be needed to care for COVID-19 patients alone in August.

 

[tresir2012]

RSBM. From FDA:

Q. Did the new information about a potential drug interaction between remdesivir and hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) contribute to the revocation of the EUA?

A. FDA’s action to revoke the EUA authorizing the use of hydroxychloroquine sulfate (HCQ) and chloroquine phosphate (CQ) to treat certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19 was taken based on FDA’s ongoing assessment of available scientific information associated with the authorized emergency use of these products. Revocation of an EUA may occur when the statutory criteria for authorization are no longer met. The potential drug interaction between remdesivir and HCQ/CQ is not the basis for the revocation of the EUA.​

https://www.fda.gov/media/138946/download

UBM.

According to this it is just the emergency use that has been discontinued and it is still authorized for clinical work. Not sure where the info about Remdesivir in the article I quoted came from. Will check that out as to who actually stated it . TY for this link.

Link to press release which makes it clear that off label use is still authorized.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Revokes Emergency Use Authorization for Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine

"Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are both FDA-approved to treat or prevent malaria. Hydroxychloroquine is also approved to treat autoimmune conditions such as chronic discoid lupus erythematosus, systemic lupus erythematosus in adults, and rheumatoid arthritis. Both drugs have been prescribed for years to help patients with these debilitating, or even deadly, diseases, and FDA has determined that these drugs are safe and effective when used for these diseases in accordance with their FDA-approved labeling. Of note, FDA approved products may be prescribed by physicians for off-label uses if they determine it is appropriate for treating their patients, including during COVID."

I found the video that mentions the Remdesivir issue. It is in this CNBC video with Scott Gottlieb starting around 1.00 but the whole video is interesting and is only short.

He also mentions off label use can continue.

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Latest news from BBC

Coronavirus updates: Young people driving Europe spike, WHO warns - BBC News

Summary

1. Young people could be driving spikes in coronavirus cases across Europe, the World Health Organization warns
2. Several countries are seeing a higher proportion of new infections among the young, the health body says
3. Heathrow boss calls for tests at airports to avoid quarantine rules, but a UK minister says this is not a "silver bullet"
4. Almost 1,300 virus-related deaths were logged in the US on Tuesday, the biggest daily increase since May
5. UK government to fund studies to explain why ethnic minorities are at greater risk
6. Scaled back Hajj begins in Saudi Arabia with international visitors banned
7. Hong Kong government warns hospitals face "collapse" as it grapples with a rise in infections
8. There have been nearly 16.7 million confirmed cases globally, and around 660,000 deaths

See link for individual stories.

 

[SouthAussie]

RSBM

Is the result of the investigation out now?

I see it is not reconvening till Aug.

COVID-19 Hotel Quarantine Inquiry

Here's a link to the hearings and transcripts.

The inquiry is supposedly going to present its final report by September 25th.

There have been several whistleblowers who have gone to the media, and many of us have seen their whistleblowing reports.

It is likely that the Vic Premier's head is going to roll over the hotel security decisions made.

The official words? ""Information already available to the inquiry suggests the possibility of a link between many of the cases of coronavirus identified in the Victorian community in the past few weeks and persons who were quarantined under the hotel quarantine program," Mr Neal said."
Inquiry looks at hotel quarantine errors that could have caused 'every case' now in Victoria

 

[oviedo]

Yes our UK postman signs post for me now because of the virus.

Our USPS guy does the same and so does Fedex

 

[Tigerlily75]

From your link.

"But the Walter+Eliza Hall Institute in Melbourne said on Tuesday it would continue its trial on 2,250 health workers.

The trial received $3 million from the federal government for the research three months ago.

“Our research is trialling hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic on healthy people,” a spokeswoman for the institute told 7NEWS.com.au.

“So we are looking at whether the drug can prevent people from contracting the virus.

“The FDA has halted trials examining whether hydroxychloroquine can cure COVID-19.”

"The FDA also warned on Monday that the decades-old anti-malaria pills have been shown in lab studies to interfere with another antiviral drug, remdesivir."

So it interferes with Remdesivir. That is why FDA have pulled HXC and the video has been pulled by FB IMO. Isn't Remdesivir backed by Gates?

Here's today's BBC link about this subject.

Why a video promoted by Trump was pulled on social media

I had a look at the FDA site and they list heart issues and other safety issues as the main reasons FDA cautions use of hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine for COVID-19

But it doesn’t read like it’s a ban or anything, it just needs to be used in right settings.

I really don’t think there’s some kind of conspiracy here. If a drug works they’ll use it IMO. Why wouldn’t they? I think if it had a 100% success rate like the Dr in the video claimed, we’d know about it from all the trials being conducted. They’d be seeing the results immediately. It would be like a miracle drug.

 

[Tigerlily75]

Regarding the meds themselves, we know the drugs are in hundreds of trials and they are not illegal or banned drugs - I posted a link about the trials yesterday so removing the video is a strange move IMO.

RSBM

The video was a conspiracy video, claiming that the drug cures everyone, we need nothing more than that particular drug (no social distancing, no masks, no shut downs, just the drug), She also said drug trials are unethical, and that doctors aren’t using it because they may have been threatened.

The same Dr also believes those in government are reptilians, vaccines contain alien DNA and that endometriosis is caused by Astral sex with demons.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: Vietnam battles COVID-19 strain not seen in country before

Every province and city in Vietnam is at risk of a new wave of COVID-19, its prime minister has warned, as territories across Asia suffer a spike in new infections.

Vietnam had been coronavirus-free for months before the recent outbreak in Da Nang, a city in the centre of the country.

Cases have now also been reported in other cities, including Ho Chi Minh city and the capital Hanoi.

Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc said that this coronavirus strain had not been seen in the country before, and some local media reported that the new strain was more contagious than previous ones.

Vietnamese scientists say the latest strain had also been previously detected in Bangladesh, Britain and Ireland.

Despite sharing a border with China, Vietnam had only recorded 446 cases in the initial stages of its COVID-19 outbreak. It rapidly shut its borders, imposed centralised quarantines and started an energetic contact tracking system.

It has acted similarly quickly in this outbreak. All flights in and out of Da Nang have been suspended and 80,000 mainly local tourists are being evacuated. Social distancing rules are being imposed and non-essential services are being told to close

 

[Tigerlily75]

Coronavirus: Vietnam battles COVID-19 strain not seen in country before

Every province and city in Vietnam is at risk of a new wave of COVID-19, its prime minister has warned, as territories across Asia suffer a spike in new infections.

Vietnam had been coronavirus-free for months before the recent outbreak in Da Nang, a city in the centre of the country.

Cases have now also been reported in other cities, including Ho Chi Minh city and the capital Hanoi.

Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc said that this coronavirus strain had not been seen in the country before, and some local media reported that the new strain was more contagious than previous ones.

Vietnamese scientists say the latest strain had also been previously detected in Bangladesh, Britain and Ireland.

Despite sharing a border with China, Vietnam had only recorded 446 cases in the initial stages of its COVID-19 outbreak. It rapidly shut its borders, imposed centralised quarantines and started an energetic contact tracking system.

It has acted similarly quickly in this outbreak. All flights in and out of Da Nang have been suspended and 80,000 mainly local tourists are being evacuated. Social distancing rules are being imposed and non-essential services are being told to close

I’m so sad to read this! I’m glad they are acting so quickly (again!) and I hope it works.