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And he attended the rally without a mask. It’s very sad. It was preventable. He was misled.

No he wasn't. He's a grown man, who was supposedly a very bright businessman. Like everybody, he made a conscious choice with his own free will. He owed nothing to a certain someone, and I doubt that someone will lose any sleep over this, except to the extent it may impact him personally.
 
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Almost nowhere.
 
  • #645
Almost nowhere.

Albania is nice this time of year.

Looks like our current choices are: Albania, Mexico, Turkey, Dominican Republic, and Tunisia.
 
  • #646
yes, my opinion since day one. Just shut up about it. Patient <---> Doctor. They decide. I have the right to decline it. Let others have the right to take it. Regardless of listening to me on why I won't take it. Their choice. Their outcome.

However, I remain very angry at the uneducated, defensive promotion of this one single drug, that has resulted in too much attention, review, research and money. I just wish the administration would just shut up about it, and let it be one of the many therapeutics out there to try. Are we all going to suffer because we now have an overwhelming stockpile of this stuff???
 
  • #647
And our governor continues the narrative that we are stabilizing... I still hear those echos in my head of how “Florida is the great success story”... which has proven to be so wrong! As new daily case counts counts continue around 10,000 and deaths keep rising, it doesn’t appear to be stabilizing to me and many others in our state. He still hasn’t issued a statewide mask mandate.

Now tests sites are closing due to the storm, which is understandable, but I’m afraid that will be the new excuse in all the numbers.

It won't be an excuse . . . it will be proof that Florida is doing SO MUCH BETTER!
 
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Calabrese said doctors were hopeful as recently as five days before his death that Cain would make a recovery. However, because Cain previously beat liver cancer, he was considered at high-risk for complications related to COVID-19.

It remained unclear Thursday how Cain contracted a coronavirus infection. The radio host, who traveled frequently, attended President Donald Trump’s rally on June 20 in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

WHIO | Dayton News, Weather & Traffic

I'm just so sad.

by a preponderance of the evidence, he most likely contracted the virus at a rally with 6000 UNMASKED ATTENDEES- it does not take a rocket scientist to figure that one out!!!!!
 
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by a preponderance of the evidence, he most likely contracted the virus at a rally with 6000 UNMASKED ATTENDEES- it does not take a rocket scientist to figure that one out!!!!!

Everyone is entitled to speculate on how/where he got it. JMO
 
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No he wasn't. He's a grown man, who was supposedly a very bright businessman. Like everybody, he made a conscious choice with his own free will. He owed nothing to a certain someone, and I doubt that someone will lose any sleep over this, except to the extent it may impact him personally.

Yes they are being studied in controlled situations. we shall see what the final outcome is: the problem is, and i have said it before: NO PRESIDENT SHOULD BE HAWKING ANY DRUGS - NO PRESIDENT. It is inappropriate and downright dangerous. People who follow Trump will beg their doctors for this drug and many docs will prescribe the drug because they want to please the patient and they are too busy to argue with a patient-- this drug needs to be given in a hospital setting under controlled condition. this drug has serious cardiac side effects for some people- and could be fatal.
 
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It won't be an excuse . . . it will be proof that Florida is doing SO MUCH BETTER!

Using what metric? They are getting better at moving bodies out of ICU to the portable morgue to free up bed space?
 
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by a preponderance of the evidence, he most likely contracted the virus at a rally with 6000 UNMASKED ATTENDEES- it does not take a rocket scientist to figure that one out!!!!!
also it was announced in advance that 8 workers
on the Trump Rally Team had already contracted the virus before it started.
So most adults who could read knew the risks.
Plus Cain brought a contingent of his family with him and photos showed them not doing
any social distancing at the rally.
This was so preventable, that's what's sad.
 
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From that article:
The narrative for the coronavirus in animals, however, has so far been consistent and narrow: They are rarely affected. When they do get the virus, it’s almost always from an owner. They have mild symptoms. They usually recover.

In reality, little is known about how the virus affects the typical pet dog.

This is why I worry about the reports about using dogs to sniff out the coronavirus cases from people’s saliva. While it sounds fantastic, are the dogs who are being trained in danger of contracting it and becoming ill?
Dogs can sniff out coronavirus infections, German study shows
 
  • #656
The blame game and pointing fingers has become the main topic surrounding the pandemic. We’re all better than this.
IMO, we all need to be accountable for our own actions and health. Stay up to date on facts, have a healthcare team that you trust and make the best decisions you can under the circumstances.
 
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Using what metric? They are getting better at moving bodies out of ICU to the portable morgue to free up bed space?

They've been adding ICU beds to some hospitals and then not noting that when they say we have more ICU beds the next day (NO SOURCE except I watched my next-door-county add 23 beds one day and promptly fill 13 of them . . . then claim we were 10 beds up the next day.)

And they've been moving patients from hospitals to dedicated nursing homes, but cases in other nursing homes and assisted living facilities are still going up:
Rising virus cases spark concern in Florida nursing homes

But daily Florida sets new daily record for COVID deaths while DeSantis finds 'positive trends'

I might be furious. Sorry.
 
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What about the big study that indicates it could be effective? The article didn’t mention that one.
I am guessing that would be the Ford Clinic one. That is the only one I am familiar with.
 
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They've been adding ICU beds to some hospitals and then not noting that when they say we have more ICU beds the next day (NO SOURCE except I watched my next-door-county add 23 beds one day and promptly fill 13 of them . . . then claim we were 10 beds up the next day.)

And they've been moving patients from hospitals to dedicated nursing homes, but cases in other nursing homes and assisted living facilities are still going up:
Rising virus cases spark concern in Florida nursing homes

But daily Florida sets new daily record for COVID deaths while DeSantis finds 'positive trends'

I might be furious. Sorry.
Yes, many of us Floridians are utterly disgusted
with our governor.
He's become the common politician who promotes what's good for the economy over the safety of residents. He's angling to re-open all
bars and schools despite many health officials warning him otherwise. His own 3 children are
too young for public schools so it doesn't affect him but back when this virus first hit, many daycares closed due to parents keeping kids home and DeSantis came on TV begging the daycares to re-open cause his wife was going
batty w/ 3 kids under 3. And employees couldn't go to work if they had no daycare. To heck with safety.
 
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