Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #73

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How the Navajo Nation slowed one of the worst Covid-19 outbreaks in the US

The Navajo nation was doing really badly at first but has really turned things around, especially with all the limitations they have with lack of good healthcare, limited grocery stores, lack of access to running water etc.

"How has the Navajo Nation responded to Covid-19?

Jonathan Nez
The Navajo Nation is locked down — we’re telling residents to please stay home, and visitors to pass through. We have travel advisories against leaving the Navajo Nation, and we’ve told citizens living off the reservation that now’s not the time to come visit relatives.

We’re asking everyone to wear a mask, social distance, wash their hands, and stay home. Since early April, we mandated mask use in public.

It’s concerning that Arizona still doesn’t mandate masks, although New Mexico has. Data shows that wearing masks slows the spread of Covid-19. If the Navajo Nation is to be a case study, we had a fast increase in cases — we have multiple generations of family living under one roof, so Covid spread like wildfire — but wearing masks has flattened our numbers.

The Indian Health Service did a surge projection in March where they suggested that our peak of hospital use would be in mid-May. We went door to door on a public health campaign, and the numbers show we beat that projection by a whole month — the peak of our cases actually happened in mid-April. Since then, we’ve been on a downward trend."

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We’ve gone door to door. We have a database of high-risk patients and when we saw the virus coming in February we started reaching out to them.

We framed it within our cultural teaching: We teach that we have fought monsters, but today we also have modern monsters, like alcoholism, depression, suicide, and disease.

In our society, we value our elders and we let people know they are warriors, and they are supposed to protect their families — in this case, to shield their elders, who have traditional and cultural knowledge for the future of our people. We’re also doing daily updates on Facebook, and you can watch a town hall meetings online every Tuesday and Thursday.

There’s always a fear of catching the virus. I’m out there [working in the community], so I had to move into a different room in my home — like a lot of first responders, I’m isolating away from my family, just in case."

Hiring people to go door to door in the rest of America would ease unemployment and increase community awareness.
 
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Just a wild prediction, but I think canned pumpkin is going to be hard to find this fall..buy early! (More folks cooking/baking at home)
Thanks for the heads up. I love cooking with pumpkin. You can always chop up and cook your jack-o-lantern after Halloween . Also, where I live, pumpkins go on sale for 50 cents to a dollar. The cookbooks always reccomend the little sugar pumpkins for cooking; but I think the pumpkins sold for Halloween are just as good for pie, soups, etc. And you get lots of seeds for roasting or toasting.
 
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I would have made a lot more money collecting unemployment than working the past few months.

In a related matter, people turning 60 this year may see a permanent cut in their Social Security benefits because of the economic effects of this pandemic.


Covid-19 Side Effect: Social Security Retirement Benefits For Boomers Born In 1960 Will Take A Big Hit

The 1960 babies will suffer because of two parts of the complicated (and understandably, little understood) formula used to calculate an American worker’s Social Security retirement benefits. Both parts use something known as the average wage index (AWI)—which is essentially total wages paid in the U.S. in a year, divided by the number of folks issued W-2s reporting wages to the Internal Revenue Service. Since a record number of people were employed early this year, before the pandemic hit, there will be a lot of W-2s going out for 2020. But total wages for this year—what with more than 38 million Americans filing unemployment claims over the last nine weeks—will be way lower than predicted before the pandemic.

Covid-19 Side Effect: Social Security Retirement Benefits For Boomers Born In 1960 Will Take A Big Hit
Wonderful news.
 
  • #184
Hiring people to go door to door in the rest of America would ease unemployment and increase community awareness.
I wonder how many people would actually want to do that job. I wouldn’t mind my immediate area but there’s a decent size group that won’t wear masks and their vehement attitudes would not be pleasant once I mentioned the dreaded virus word.
 
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This just happened a few minutes ago on Worldometer.

Coronavirus Cases:
18,009,763
 
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Wonderful news.
I turn 60 next year so hopefully things will be better for me.

There is also a chance that Congress will fix this problem before people hit age 62 and are affected by this. JMO
 
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I would have made a lot more money collecting unemployment than working the past few months.

In a related matter, people turning 60 this year may see a permanent cut in their Social Security benefits because of the economic effects of this pandemic.


Covid-19 Side Effect: Social Security Retirement Benefits For Boomers Born In 1960 Will Take A Big Hit

The 1960 babies will suffer because of two parts of the complicated (and understandably, little understood) formula used to calculate an American worker’s Social Security retirement benefits. Both parts use something known as the average wage index (AWI)—which is essentially total wages paid in the U.S. in a year, divided by the number of folks issued W-2s reporting wages to the Internal Revenue Service. Since a record number of people were employed early this year, before the pandemic hit, there will be a lot of W-2s going out for 2020. But total wages for this year—what with more than 38 million Americans filing unemployment claims over the last nine weeks—will be way lower than predicted before the pandemic.

Covid-19 Side Effect: Social Security Retirement Benefits For Boomers Born In 1960 Will Take A Big Hit

Oh man, seriously?!? I turn 60 this year. I just have the worst luck, I swear, lol. Being a church secretary for the last 19+ years, I don't make much to begin with. And I haven't missed a day of work all year (church office never closed, even when services did). Even when I had my own coronavirus scare, I worked from home. I would invite you all to my pity party but I am social distancing!!
 
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I wonder how many people would actually want to do that job. I wouldn’t mind my immediate area but there’s a decent size group that won’t wear masks and their vehement attitudes would not be pleasant once I mentioned the dreaded virus word.
As a former educator, allow me to mention that my inner-city district stopped teachers from doing home visits. Why? Too dangerous. Never knew if you would run into domestic violence, a drug house/deal, robbery, etc. In today.s world, I would not even be a census taker. Going house to house isn’t what it used to be.
 
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As a former educator, allow me to mention that my inner-city district stopped teachers from doing home visits. Why? Too dangerous. Never knew if you would run into domestic violence, a drug house/deal, robbery, etc. In today.s world, I would not even be a census taker. Going house to house isn’t what it used to be.

Nothing is what it used to be
 
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Oh man, seriously?!? I turn 60 this year. I just have the worst luck, I swear, lol. Being a church secretary for the last 19+ years, I don't make much to begin with. And I haven't missed a day of work all year (church office never closed, even when services did). Even when I had my own coronavirus scare, I worked from home. I would invite you all to my pity party but I am social distancing!!
I wouldn't panic yet. Hopefully Congress will fix this problem before you are affected.
 
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Donald Trump claims Anthony Fauci 'wrong' about cause of Covid-19 surge

Donald Trump claims Anthony Fauci 'wrong' about cause of Covid-19 surge

Edward Helmore

5 hrs ago
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Donald Trump launched an extraordinary attack on his own top infectious disease expert, Dr Anthony Fauci, arguing against the doctor’s claim that high rates of infection in the US stem from a less aggressive reaction to the virus in terms of economic shutdowns and stay-at-home orders.

“Wrong!” countered the president as he retweeted a video of Fauci making the point in recent congressional testimony.

Fauci had explained that differentiations between surging US infections and a sharp decrease seen across Europe could be explained by the different reactions to the virus. Fauci said most European countries shut their economies down by 95%, while the US only shut down its economy by half.
Trump furiously countered: “We have more cases because we have tested far more than any other country, 60,000,000. If we tested less, there would be less cases. How did Italy, France & Spain do? Now Europe sadly has flare ups. Most of our governors worked hard & smart. We will come back STRONG!”
But Fauci’s point accurately describes the US situation. While some states followed Centers for Disease Control guidelines when they started to re-open, many did not, leading to a surge in infections in many southern and western states, Fauci explained.

“There are some states that did it very well, there are some states that did not,” he said, adding that many were doing better now thanks to improved testing.

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I wss thinking brrr re the fan til I woke up a bit.

It's winter here, but you're in a very hot summer there so that breeze would have been most welcome as well as making you feel safer.

Re winter I was telling a friend that it seemed our cold weather was going away, til I looked at the weather forecast, w're in for days of figures as low as -3 C.
Woke up this morning expecting the almost tropical 14 degrees we're supposed to be getting, and thought why do I feel so cold, was about to add a beanie to my Mrs Michelan Man look. Looked at the weather, it's 0.4 at 10am. That's celsius.

Got the email from Woolworths re masks. A friend had told me that you "had" to wear masks in their stores now. The email says they welcome you to wear masks.
I was down the street on Friday and in two hours I only saw one person with a mask, a younger man. No cases here so far. But there was a case 45km away. They had been at that Crossroads hotel in Sydney.
I can't see many people here wearing masks until they're forced to. I finally opened my box of masks that were delivered and they're kind of thin and i can't see the string bit that goes over your ears lasting.but I guess it only has to last for at the most one day.
I found it quite easy to breathe through, even with my allergies , which made me feel good, but also made me feel that if I can breathe in ok, does that mean my outward breath could infect someone ? Or would it be that the larger particles that could contain a virus can't escape from the mask ?
And how do people carry their masks around. or do they just leave their house wearing them ?
I'm thinking I would only wear them if going into a store etc but then you'd go through a heap of them because you wouldn't want to be putting it on and taking it off all the time.

Your Premier is holding a presser right now. She is 'strongly recommending' people wear masks. It is the 'next stage in the evolving health advice'.
'We can't pretend we are geographically separated from Victoria, we are not.'
'We need to continue to be on high alert'.
'The next few weeks are make or break for us'
'We've been able to hold the line, health dept has done a good job of ring fencing the outbreak areas.'
'If we work a bit harder now, we will be better off in the medium and long term.'

'Everybody who leaves their home in NSW needs to consider that they may have the virus, or other people may have the virus'.
'All of us need to be extra-cautious.'
'If we do the hard yard now, we may avoid what Victoria is going through.'
 
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Donald Trump claims Anthony Fauci 'wrong' about cause of Covid-19 surge

Donald Trump claims Anthony Fauci 'wrong' about cause of Covid-19 surge

Edward Helmore

5 hrs ago
...
Donald Trump launched an extraordinary attack on his own top infectious disease expert, Dr Anthony Fauci, arguing against the doctor’s claim that high rates of infection in the US stem from a less aggressive reaction to the virus in terms of economic shutdowns and stay-at-home orders.

“Wrong!” countered the president as he retweeted a video of Fauci making the point in recent congressional testimony.

Fauci had explained that differentiations between surging US infections and a sharp decrease seen across Europe could be explained by the different reactions to the virus. Fauci said most European countries shut their economies down by 95%, while the US only shut down its economy by half.
Trump furiously countered: “We have more cases because we have tested far more than any other country, 60,000,000. If we tested less, there would be less cases. How did Italy, France & Spain do? Now Europe sadly has flare ups. Most of our governors worked hard & smart. We will come back STRONG!”
But Fauci’s point accurately describes the US situation. While some states followed Centers for Disease Control guidelines when they started to re-open, many did not, leading to a surge in infections in many southern and western states, Fauci explained.

“There are some states that did it very well, there are some states that did not,” he said, adding that many were doing better now thanks to improved testing.

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I just can't anymore. MOO.
 
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I wonder how many people would actually want to do that job. I wouldn’t mind my immediate area but there’s a decent size group that won’t wear masks and their vehement attitudes would not be pleasant once I mentioned the dreaded virus word.

Yeah, that could be a problem many places - we've already lost a sense of community.

I do wonder if we had started in February...gently letting people know that a dread virus was coming...

Well, perhaps the upcoming generations will be more savvy, having watched this in their youth and childhood. They may remember how it spoiled their proms, their athletic endeavors, etc.

US is not ready to handle a health emergency, I guess.
 
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