Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #75

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  • #181
Could Covid-19 be affecting the brain directly?

Two months after falling ill with Covid-19, Julie (36) had her first hallucination. “It started slowly. I was struggling to track the plot of a TV show, then I couldn’t read the words on my phone screen,” she said.
“I know it sounds crazy, and I don’t know how to properly articulate it, but in the moment it really felt like something was taking over my brain and my body.
“I was so convinced that was happening that I made my sister promise to remember a code word so she’d know if I was still in my body.”

The husband of one woman discharged from hospital found her behaving oddly, taking her coat on and off repeatedly and saying she saw lions and monkeys in the house.

Dawn (48) ... “I would walk around the house [at night] and make sure everyone was breathing” ... on a recent visit to friends took half an hour to feel comfortable getting out of the car.

Lauren Nichols (32) ... “I was waking up in the middle of the night gasping for air,” she said, adding she was left terrified of sleeping and afraid of being unable to call out to her husband if she felt she was dying.

Sophie, 25 ... “I have been diagnosed with a generalised anxiety disorder and am taking medication for this. I am still left really anxious and nervous that I will become unwell again”

'Sheer fear': mental health impacts of Covid-19 come to fore
 
  • #182
Please. Somebody, tell me. With all of our tech and data, why are we not doing surgical lockdowns?
If an area has a cluster, why not lock that area down and maybe 25 miles around it?
Why entire countries and States?
In San Diego, Ca. Which has over 3.5 million residents, we have had a total of 403 deaths throughout all of this.
Our Governor knows where these deaths are happening. <modsnip>
Yet ALL of San Diego is shut down.
<modsnip: Discussing moderation is not allowed>


Best I remember, if needed I'll look up the link.....

But in the early days of the NYC outbreak, they did try to quarantine a couple of neighborhoods but quickly discovered without law enforcement intervention it was an impossible situation to enforce.
 
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  • #183
I am convinced many people really don't understand what a pandemic is nor how contagious the virus is--- they just don't understand---there are lots of not so bright people out there
Yes - I agree unfortunately. I've been concerned about the basketball players in the park I see every day - no masks,obviously no social distancing and now I get to see the kids playing supervised by adults at a different place and again, no masks and no social distancing. I realize this is a dilemma for working parents but these kids are older yet they are all together in clusters and I'm just waiting for the report that one has Covid and then all the kids will be quarantined. We just don't get it and when others see all of this activity they may think "oh it's ok - I don't need a mask or to social distance because no one else is..." and we will all suffer for it
JMO
 
  • #184
Best I remember, it needed I'll look up the link.....

But in the early days of the NYC outbreak, they did try to quarantine a couple of neighborhoods but quickly discovered without law enforcement intervention it was an impossible situation to enforce.
It would be difficult on a county or neighborhood basis. People live and work in different neighborhoods. Kids go to school in different areas from home. Some people’s doctors or stores are in the county across the road. Would a boss excuse a seemingly healthy employee from a different county or neighborhood from coming to work?

I do understand the frustrations and honestly wish I could work to help out businesses, etc.
 
  • #185
Well, the countries borders are closed to stop other people bringing the virus in.

The states borders are closed to stop other people bringing the virus in.

Some are doing surgical lockdowns (we call it ring fencing). Melbourne is ring fenced in Australia. Nobody goes in or out until their outbreak is under control.
Initially they just ring fenced certain Melbourne postcodes (zip codes), until they realised the virus had spread outside those postcodes.

And there is a list of UK towns that are ring fenced (local lockdown) in this article:
Localised lockdown list: UK areas with rising coronavirus cases

I personally see no reason why the US can't do similar - other than the fact that people will probably insist on their constitutional right to go wherever they want.

I will try, with all respect to explain the "reason" the federal government can't do this is a LAW.

Yes, some claim constitutional rights but it's actually a federal law hope this helps those not in the US understand our laws.

State Governors can and are closing borders to certain states. NY is an example I will use.

Keep in mind the US Constitution, delegates control and authority to all Governor's. Federal government can't lockdown State borders in the US.

The federal government can and has closed our federal borders to individual countries.

Now, Congress CAN try to pass an amendment to the Constitution allowing government to take control of the states or to close individual state. But outside of an amendment it CAN NOT happen and could be labeled as an overthrow of the government.

Some countries do have control over states, as yours does. Many came to the new land to escape government control and freedom of religion.

This is not political just trying to explain the limits we have created in our country.

I know its tuff for many of us to understand but it is what it is.

Eta an example of how this works.... If I don't like the laws and actions of Virginia but I do like the way NC does thing and there laws better, I can chose to move to that state. This was suppose to be away of providing different regulations to "suit different beliefs".

Example.... I can easily move to CA or another state that has legalize the use of marijuana. Or stay in VA where it is illegal
 
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  • #186
I want this virus gone, this is beyond a joke!

I want the whole world to wake up and it's all been a collective dream.


You got my whole hearted support!!!!
 
  • #187
Isn't a good deal of the problem of the spread of the virus is that ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE ARE SPREADING IT????

Oh yes!!!

And I'm scratching my head as Virginia is the ONLY state with a Physician as Governor.

This IS a STATE hospital .
 
  • #188
These are the types of articles that I hate hate hate hate.

OK, children may not get. And they do an article on it.

But dammit, the kids get it (perhaps when their parent sends them on a damn plane on a trip cause they are bored with life due to shutdown) and then come back home to stay with a grandparent, and three days later the grandparent has symptoms of headache, nausea, can't get outta bed... etc...

It peeeeeeves me off.

I hope I can sleep tonight....

I'm angry, and this situation is getting me back outta my depression as I'm angry
It is not an article but is research by Public Health England.

This is a link to the ongoing research on the PHE website.
COVID-19: paediatric surveillance
 
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  • #189
Agree.

It's like the mask back and forth issue from February etc. The reason they said not to wear masks was due to shortage for health care workers. But that wasn't how presented originally. And that incorrect message still is voiced now from anti-maskers iykwim.

As @margarita25 has stated, messages need to be clear and accurate. Hard to do sometimes. And harder to swallow (as the instance/truth ) of what you state.

MOO

Yup, when I saw that PC, I was shaking my head.

Coming from HC, I thought ....

Some countries are not gonna be sending masks from our US OWNED manufacturing companies that, we encouraged to move to other countries to HELP them build their economy.
 
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  • #190
Hi, I’m behind here but wanted to mention I watched NBC Nightly News from the day before yesterday, and there were several reports of positive cases and quarantines at schools all over the place.

See 10:40, schools already off to a very rocky start in Florida, Indiana, Louisiana, Arizona, Georgia, Mississippi:

NBC Nightly News Broadcast (Full) - August 12th, 2020 | NBC Nightly News
 
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  • #191
Yes. I have a relative that has a business off the Blue Ridge Parkway in Virginia. She sent out an SOS on her website about the coin issue almost a month ago, before it hit MSM. She went to multiple banks in her very rural town and couldn't get coins. Something about the shutdown and folks not using coins and the disruption in the system....

It's real, and MSM has talked about it for the last 3 weeks iirc.

Some demographics in not only rural, but low income suburban and large cities do not have bank accounts, much less credit cards. MOO


In Virginia this was questioned. We do not have a state law requiring a business give/make change. I was all over this when it first started happening.

Even banks are issuing letters to business account holders ....

'We can not longer be considered as a source/distributor for coined money. We can not longer guarantee this service."

Folks have been real upset, because many fast food chain and others have signs stating....

Change will not provided.
 
  • #192
NBC Nightly News Broadcast (Full) - August 13th, 2020 | NBC Nightly News
 
  • #193
CoverMeCagney said:
Anyone know which countries have gone 'back to school' already?

School starts in Latvia on Sept. 1st
 
  • #194
It would be difficult on a county or neighborhood basis. People live and work in different neighborhoods. Kids go to school in different areas from home. Some people’s doctors or stores are in the county across the road. Would a boss excuse a seemingly healthy employee from a different county or neighborhood from coming to work?

I do understand the frustrations and honestly wish I could work to help out businesses, etc.


I also, agree.

Particularly true if you live near a State Line.
 
  • #195
Could Covid-19 be affecting the brain directly?

Two months after falling ill with Covid-19, Julie (36) had her first hallucination. “It started slowly. I was struggling to track the plot of a TV show, then I couldn’t read the words on my phone screen,” she said.
“I know it sounds crazy, and I don’t know how to properly articulate it, but in the moment it really felt like something was taking over my brain and my body.
“I was so convinced that was happening that I made my sister promise to remember a code word so she’d know if I was still in my body.”

The husband of one woman discharged from hospital found her behaving oddly, taking her coat on and off repeatedly and saying she saw lions and monkeys in the house.

Dawn (48) ... “I would walk around the house [at night] and make sure everyone was breathing” ... on a recent visit to friends took half an hour to feel comfortable getting out of the car.

Lauren Nichols (32) ... “I was waking up in the middle of the night gasping for air,” she said, adding she was left terrified of sleeping and afraid of being unable to call out to her husband if she felt she was dying.

Sophie, 25 ... “I have been diagnosed with a generalised anxiety disorder and am taking medication for this. I am still left really anxious and nervous that I will become unwell again”

'Sheer fear': mental health impacts of Covid-19 come to fore

This virus has layers and layers of horror: one layer after another keeps revealing itself--- it seems like there is no end to the damage it can do to all the organs of the body----I suspect that some of the damage will be permanent.
 
  • #196
Could Covid-19 be affecting the brain directly?

Two months after falling ill with Covid-19, Julie (36) had her first hallucination. “It started slowly. I was struggling to track the plot of a TV show, then I couldn’t read the words on my phone screen,” she said.
“I know it sounds crazy, and I don’t know how to properly articulate it, but in the moment it really felt like something was taking over my brain and my body.
“I was so convinced that was happening that I made my sister promise to remember a code word so she’d know if I was still in my body.”

The husband of one woman discharged from hospital found her behaving oddly, taking her coat on and off repeatedly and saying she saw lions and monkeys in the house.

Dawn (48) ... “I would walk around the house [at night] and make sure everyone was breathing” ... on a recent visit to friends took half an hour to feel comfortable getting out of the car.

Lauren Nichols (32) ... “I was waking up in the middle of the night gasping for air,” she said, adding she was left terrified of sleeping and afraid of being unable to call out to her husband if she felt she was dying.

Sophie, 25 ... “I have been diagnosed with a generalised anxiety disorder and am taking medication for this. I am still left really anxious and nervous that I will become unwell again”

'Sheer fear': mental health impacts of Covid-19 come to fore

This virus has layers and layers of horror: one layer after another keeps revealing itself--- it seems like there is no end to the damage it can do to all the organs of the body----I suspect that some of the damage will be permanent.
 
  • #197
Have you heard about the coin shortage?
America is literally out of common sense.

Haha! Good one; took me a second (sense—cents).

I’ve got one of those husbands that drive me crazy for never using coins, and so they keep accumulating in jars and containers around the house. I guess I should be grateful now? :rolleyes:
 
  • #198
Vulnerable Michigan communities to get 4 million free face masks

Four million masks will be distributed to low-income residents, seniors, schools and homeless shelters to protect communities most vulnerable to COVID-19 -- including “minority residents who have been affected by the public health crisis as a result of racism,” officials said.

Both Ford Motor Company and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) have partnered with the state to provide face coverings to Michigan residents.

As of Wednesday, the state is reporting 90,392 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 6,289 deaths.

Face masks have been scientifically proven to significantly reduce a person’s chance of spreading COVID-19, officials say.
 
  • #199
Please. Somebody, tell me. With all of our tech and data, why are we not doing surgical lockdowns?
If an area has a cluster, why not lock that area down and maybe 25 miles around it?
Why entire countries and States?
In San Diego, Ca. Which has over 3.5 million residents, we have had a total of 403 deaths throughout all of this.
Our Governor knows where these deaths are happening. <modsnip>
Yet ALL of San Diego is shut down.
<modsnip: Discussing moderation is not allowed>

I think it's impossible in California due to lack of police and enforcement. There's no way to keep people in their cities, much less their counties - and certainly not inside a few square blocks of a neighborhood.

CoVid would travel much more slowly if we did lock everyone into their neighborhoods (you can't just have some people stay in their neighborhoods and let others roam freely - people aren't going to check maps to see if they've entered the wrong zone). You'd need actual roadblocks and preferably, digital geo-fencing.

The deaths are happening in clusters all over.

San Diego County has an opportunity 615 deaths. But it has had 33,000+ actual known cases of people who are transmitting. Zip code analysis shows they are not in just one or two or three neighborhoods. It has 5000 active cases (known) right now (nearly twice as many as the county where I live). The politics of "who thinks which areas should be locked down" would be so burdensome.

That's why many nations do it by city (Melbourne) or larger area (roughly equivalent to states). Until we shut down the State of California properly, there's no point in making entire neighborhoods quarantine, because that's not how CV spreads. It spreads in families, in indoor closed spaces, workplaces, etc. Not just neighborhoods.
 
  • #200
Nearly 300 confirmed cases confirmed in UK sandwich factory outbreak

At least 299 cases were confirmed at Greencore Group's Northampton site after the company began testing employees at the factory.

“As a result of the rising number of Covid-19 cases in the Northampton area, we took the decision to start proactively testing all of the colleagues at our Northampton site," the company said in a statement on its website.

Sandwich factory open despite 300 infections
 
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