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That one specifically, not seen posted. But many conspiracy type articles which are similar have been posted here since February.

Many of the things she points out are the same things that happened in the US (e.g. at first in US, only folks that had ties to China travel were being tested by CDC and many docs in US knew that it must be more widespread than such and they were ignored and suppressed.... similar to concentrating/ tracking Wuhan market links at first in China)

And the title doesn't line up with the body (which surprisingly used Dailymail.com as a source- is this news site just a ??? ...I forget the word that means only picks up and regurgitates other) She didn't claim that it originated in a military lab, she said "may".. which many have stated, and she worked for an WHO lab ergo the title slides in that it is an WHO coverup.

As time has marched on, the US has followed what China did

MOO

to answer the question: no, the Daily Mail is not a news aggregator (phrase you were looking for) like Newzit. They do original journalism. It has the highest current circulation of any UK newspaper, and has been in existence since 1896. :)
 
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Why Victoria needs both state of emergency and state of disaster powers to fight coronavirus

Why Victoria needs both state of emergency and state of disaster powers to fight coronavirus

By Rachel Clayton

18 hrs ago
For the past six months, Victorians have watched the State Government use a broad range of powers to control the coronavirus pandemic.

On Sunday, Premier Daniel Andrews announced Victoria's state of emergency would be extended for four more weeks.

But Victoria is also under a state of disaster and while it sounds like that would trump a state of emergency, the two terms operate under different legislation and state mechanisms.

Here's why both are being enforced at the same time.

What is a state of emergency?

A state of emergency first came into effect on March 16 to give the Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton wide-ranging powers to enforce coronavirus restrictions.

The declaration is made under the Public Health and Wellbeing Act 2008 when there is a serious risk to public health.

Among the powers it provides, it allows Professor Sutton to direct health officials to detain people, search premises without a warrant and force people or areas into lockdown if it is considered necessary to protect public health.

A state of emergency was initially declared to give Victorian authorities the power to enforce two essential rules: physical distancing and quarantine requirements.

How is a state of disaster different?

A state of disaster came into effect on August 2 for one month so stricter, stage 4 restrictions could be enforced.

It is due to end at 6:00pm on September 2.

Under the emergency management act, a state of disaster can be declared if the Premier is satisfied an emergency "constitutes or is likely to constitute a significant and widespread danger to life or property in Victoria", which includes a plague or epidemic.

It allows police to enforce rules such as the nightly 8:00pm to 5:00am curfew and restrict people's movement such as the ban on people travelling beyond the 5 kilometre radius around their home.
 
  • #523
to answer the question: no, the Daily Mail is not a news aggregator (phrase you were looking for) like Newzit. They do original journalism. It has the highest current circulation of any UK newspaper, and has been in existence since 1896. :)

It still has a dreadful reputation in the UK, and let’s be honest, it’s quantity over quality and the more salacious the better. Good photos though!
 
  • #524
It still has a dreadful reputation in the UK, and let’s be honest, it’s quantity over quality and the more salacious the better. Good photos though!
With no proof reading and quite often woeful spelling. I rather think that they are typos though in the mad rush to get the article out there.
They do have the best pics, though.
 
  • #525
Most international students stuck in Australia during the pandemic say they would tell their friends not to come and study here, after experiencing work exploitation and being locked out of coronavirus support payments, according to a university-led survey.

International students who have remained in the country are ineligible for federal wage subsidies like JobKeeper or JobSeeker, despite stranded Australian students being offered wage help while they remain stuck in countries such as the UK, Canada and Ireland.

Most international students would tell others not to come to Australia after coronavirus response

This is really sad. Countries make a lot of money off of international students who pay high tuition rates and contribute to the economy of their host countries. A lot of university budgets will suffer tremendously if the international students don't come. Our universities in Ohio are offering housing and food and help in finding jobs while institutions are closed. I can't imagine a university not helping out these students who they have recruited to their institutions.
 
  • #526
My no touch thermometer was just delivered.
I sprayed Glen20 all over the box and will leave it in the back room for a few days.
 
  • #527
This is really sad. Countries make a lot of money off of international students who pay high tuition rates and contribute to the economy of their host countries. A lot of university budgets will suffer tremendously if the international students don't come. Our universities in Ohio are offering housing and food and help in finding jobs while institutions are closed. I can't imagine a university not helping out these students who they have recruited to their institutions.

My friend is sending her firstborn (sniff) off to his first year as an undergrad. They did decide to open the campus and he is going, despite the fact that my friend said nobody in the family has seen any friends in person since NYC lockdown started; and I know they haven't gone to school or work (unclear about groceries etc.). They did rent a car to go to a Wal-Mart drive-in and she and hubs sat outside on a blanket while the kids ruled the car, so I guess that is exposure...

I was intrigued because she said they are housing the upper class students in hotels. :eek: As she doesn't have an upperclassman, I did not ask her if she knew if they were having the whole sophomore-senior student body, or just in part. (It's a good thing they have long-term contracts, as my friend has been a night auditor in hotels and he says you don't want to know how all the clean, decent-looking people at the front desk tend to leave their rooms). He is going to have a roommate from Texas, and I guess they're going to be thrown together immediately, for good or contagioned ill. Of course they needed thorough physicals before showing up; but then so did we in the 90s... my friend and I were comparing notes on our TDAP, etc. booster experiences.
 
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I agree.
It's getting even worse with those rolling ads down either side and ones coming across what you're trying to read.
And you can't block the ads anymore.
I can't believe anyone could stay reading anything there, except for a short time.
A couple of times though I clicked on what I thought was a Daily Mail article and it was readable.
Turned out it was a Daily Mail article, but the it was on a MSN site. Had that happen a couple of times this week and it was a great improvement, I could actually get through the article without being driven insane.


With no proof reading and quite often woeful spelling. I rather think that they are typos though in the mad rush to get the article out there.
They do have the best pics, though.
 
  • #530
This is really sad. Countries make a lot of money off of international students who pay high tuition rates and contribute to the economy of their host countries. A lot of university budgets will suffer tremendously if the international students don't come. Our universities in Ohio are offering housing and food and help in finding jobs while institutions are closed. I can't imagine a university not helping out these students who they have recruited to their institutions.
Australia does not have live in colleges which supply food and they are quite free to get a job, if there are any going.
Our universities are government funded, they do not have larger endowments to support them.
The students that 'got stuck' in Australia, were given plenty of warning not to come after the summer holidays. Our universities (and schools) start at the beginning of the year. Late January or the first few days of February for schools and up to March for universities.
 
  • #531
I agree.
It's getting even worse with those rolling ads down either side and ones coming across what you're trying to read.
And you can't block the ads anymore.
I can't believe anyone could stay reading anything there, except for a short time.
A couple of times though I clicked on what I thought was a Daily Mail article and it was readable.
Turned out it was a Daily Mail article, but the it was on a MSN site. Had that happen a couple of times this week and it was a great improvement, I could actually get through the article without being driven insane.
Yes, it is a pain to click off the video on the right hand side, then have to get rid of that banner ad across the top.
 
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  • #533
My friend is sending her firstborn (sniff) off to his first year as an undergrad. They did decide to open the campus and he is going, despite the fact that my friend said nobody in the family has seen any friends in person since NYC lockdown started; and I know they haven't gone to school or work (unclear about groceries etc.). They did rent a car to go to a Wal-Mart drive-in and she and hubs sat outside on a blanket while the kids ruled the car, so I guess that is exposure...

I was intrigued because she said they are housing the upper class students in hotels. :eek: As she doesn't have an upperclassman, I did not ask her if she knew if they were having the whole sophomore-senior student body, or just in part. (It's a good thing they have long-term contracts, as my friend has been a night auditor in hotels and he says you don't want to know how all the clean, decent-looking people at the front desk tend to leave their rooms). He is going to have a roommate from Texas, and I guess they're going to be thrown together immediately, for good or contagioned ill. Of course they needed thorough physicals before showing up; but then so did we in the 90s... my friend and I were comparing notes on our TDAP, etc. booster experiences.

I hope his semester goes well and that he is able to social distance and wear face coverings enough so that he stays well. We have set aside one side of a residence hall for quarantine rooms if needed for students who test positive for COVID-19 and need to quarantine. The other side of the residence hall has been set aside for students who have been exposed to COVID-19 and need to self-isolate. Meals will be delivered, and health services and mental health counseling (if needed) will be provided. Classes will be offered remotely if students need to be quarantined or has to self-isolate. So far we have 24-48 hour testing turnaround time, and good contact tracing teams in place. Over the next few weeks, most Ohio colleges and universities that are offering in-person classes this fall will have students back on campus and classes begin. Residence halls will have reduced density, as will dining halls, libraries, and classrooms. Mask wearing is mandated. Lots of social distancing signage, purchased tons of additional wall-mounted sanitizers, and lots of plexiglass and chairs removed from spaces. All meetings of over 10 people have to be virtual. Etc.
 
  • #534
Australia does not have live in colleges which supply food and they are quite free to get a job, if there are any going.
Our universities are government funded, they do not have larger endowments to support them.
The students that 'got stuck' in Australia, were given plenty of warning not to come after the summer holidays. Our universities (and schools) start at the beginning of the year. Late January or the first few days of February for schools and up to March for universities.

The universities that I was speaking of in Ohio are government funded as well, without large endowments to support them. And whether the international students live on campus in residence halls, or off campus in apartments or other, that doesn't matter, they are part of our learning communities. We have staff who and volunteers who are work on their behalf and look after their well-being. And our administrators have a strong commitment to diversity, and value the diversity that our international students bring to campus. International students each have their unique situations, and have a lot invested in their education, and study abroad.
 
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I hope his semester goes well and that he is able to social distance and wear face coverings enough so that he stays well. We have set aside one side of a residence hall for quarantine rooms if needed for students who test positive for COVID-19 and need to quarantine. The other side of the residence hall has been set aside for students who have been exposed to COVID-19 and need to self-isolate. Meals will be delivered, and health services and mental health counseling (if needed) will be provided. Classes will be offered remotely if students need to be quarantined or has to self-isolate. So far we have 24-48 hour testing turnaround time, and good contact tracing teams in place. Over the next few weeks, most Ohio colleges and universities that are offering in-person classes this fall will have students back on campus and classes begin. Residence halls will have reduced density, as will dining halls, libraries, and classrooms. Mask wearing is mandated. Lots of social distancing signage, purchased tons of additional wall-mounted sanitizers, and lots of plexiglass and chairs removed from spaces. All meetings of over 10 people have to be virtual. Etc.
Did you hear that Cedarville already has a positive student?
First COVID-19 case confirmed at Cedarville University, one day after freshmen move to campus | WDTN.com
 
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  • #538
New Zealand law allows the prime minister to delay an election by up to two months. Not knowing the New Zealand governance system, wonder what the checks and balances are regarding the country's prime minister's powers to do this, and if the opposing parties have any concerns.

New Zealand to delay election until October, citing coronavirus resurgence
Most countries with parliamentary systems allow the governing party to set elections. Most countries have checks and balances, just not the same as the US .
 
  • #539

Our public health experts will be doing random testing the first few weeks of classes and comparing the infection rate on campus with the infection rate in the local community, and anticipate that it will be similar. So one case wouldn't be surprising. If it is higher than the local community, that would be a concern, according to the public health experts who are advising the university community. I suspect we could have a few hundred cases at any given time in quarantine and self-isolation, with many of those students quarantineed on campus, some may choose to go home to self-isolate, if they can do so safely without infecting/exposing others.

Glad I am working remotely this semester...
 
  • #540
Georgia's Cherokee County closes third high school for COVID-19 concerns

“Creekview is the third high school to close in the Georgia district outside Atlanta, in addition to Etowah and Woodstock high schools. All three schools are tentatively schedule to reopen Aug. 31.”

Parents Rally In Support Of Cherokee County Schools In Face Of Growing COVID-19 Cases

Ummmm, so they plan to reopen 15 days from now. Ummmm, is this not so reminiscent of when the President of the US had the plan to reopen the entire country after the 15 day slow the spread plan?

I guess we know the Paul Harvey on that one.
 
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