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They had jobs (assistant English teacher) and they should have foreseen that their jobs would go. Citizens of the countries they are in were losing jobs, why did they think that they wouldn't or that the government would allow them back in after they ignored the advice to go home.

So basically they're just SOL?
 
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So basically they're just SOL?

While we are protecting ALL Australian citizens in the best way that we can, they will have to wait their turn.

We work for the good of all here, not for the good of a few.

I think you understand that they are not SOL. I have posted the links about financial assistance, and explained the priority lists, already.
 
  • #924
While we are protecting ALL Australian citizens in the best way that we can, they will have to wait their turn.

We work for the good of all here, not for the good of a few.

I think you understand that they are not SOL. I have posted the links about financial assistance, and explained the priority lists, already.

Is centrelink your unemployment agency? So they can at least get unemployment and emergency finances under a disaster declaration?

And honestly no I don't understand they aren't SOL. You are saying one thing and another poster is saying something else. So I'm genuinely confused. :)
 
  • #925
This is about Australians stranded overseas who did not go home when they were warned that the borders would close.

They have the same problem. No money. No way to work, except under the table. And right now, there are not a lot of jobs. Although, picking crops is going to be big soon. Apple picking, potato sorting, onion harvesting, squash and pumpkin harvest.
 
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Is centrelink your unemployment agency? So they can at least get unemployment and emergency finances under a disaster declaration?

And honestly no I don't understand they aren't SOL. You are saying one thing and another poster is saying something else. So I'm genuinely confused. :)
They have the same problem. No money. No way to work, except under the table. And right now, there are not a lot of jobs. Although, picking crops is going to be big soon. Apple picking, potato sorting, onion harvesting, squash and pumpkin harvest.

Centrelink is our social services agency. They administer all govt pensions, unemployment, disability, parenting payments - as well as enabling counselling, parental assistance, youth services and other social needs.

Yes, emergency loans are available for overseas persons.

We truly do not leave our citizens in a bad way anywhere. Here or overseas. We are a very socially aware community, and us taxpayers pay a lot for their support.
 
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Is centrelink your unemployment agency? So they can at least get unemployment and emergency finances under a disaster declaration?

And honestly no I don't understand they aren't SOL. You are saying one thing and another poster is saying something else. So I'm genuinely confused. :)
No, no one is say anything else. They want to be allowed home and just apply for unemployment benefits rather than apply for help through the embassies which probably involves lots of paperwork and copies of documents.
 
  • #929
Centrelink is our social services agency. They administer all govt pensions, unemployment, disability, parenting payments - as well as enabling counselling, parental assistance, youth services and other social needs.

Yes, emergency loans are available for overseas persons.

We truly do not leave our citizens in a bad way anywhere. Here or overseas. We are a very socially aware community, and us taxpayers pay a lot for their support.
So it doesn't really matter that these Australians decided to stay overseas. They are being taken care of financially.
 
  • #930
Is reinfection with Covid19 because the person had a mild case the first time? Or because there are several strains of the virus? I don't know what is going on, wonder if a person can just keep getting it over and over.

No one knows. It doesn't look common. If the person gets symptoms again and is found to have the same strain, it's usually called a relapse (and that happens too). I think both things are relatively rare.

However, there's increasing evidence that strong immunity to CoVid may fade over time, even among people with serious cases and possibly without respect to severity of symptoms.

It could very well be like the common cold. One would hope that if a person survives it one time, it might well be less terrible the second time (much like a vaccine)
 
  • #931
So it doesn't really matter that these Australians decided to stay overseas. They are being taken care of financially.

Exactly. They likely want to come back here because we are relatively covid-free, as compared to the countries that they are currently in. But we cannot have them all come back as a big hoard of people. We are keeping specific hotels as quarantine hotels - with 4,000 people per week (which is a lot of people) being what they can safely manage - and monitoring the returnees before they join the community. We have to keep everyone safe.
 
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No one knows. It doesn't look common. If the person gets symptoms again and is found to have the same strain, it's usually called a relapse (and that happens too). I think both things are relatively rare.

However, there's increasing evidence that strong immunity to CoVid may fade over time, even among people with serious cases and possibly without respect to severity of symptoms.

It could very well be like the common cold. One would hope that if a person survives it one time, it might well be less terrible the second time (much like a vaccine)
So much we don't know about it and what it means long term.
 
  • #934
No, no one is say anything else. They want to be allowed home and just apply for unemployment benefits rather than apply for help through the embassies which probably involves lots of paperwork and copies of documents.

I saw a guy and his wife and child on TV the other night. He was complaining about the paperwork they had to provide to prove their 'emergency' case to return home. They were staying quite safely in England, had gone there to stay with his in-laws and decided to stay when they were told to come home now (meaning within a month, when plenty of - and extra - flights were available). They all looked very healthy. I doubt that they are an emergency case.
 
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Maine. Wedding. :confused: More at link
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Maine CDC investigating COVID outbreak at Sanford church
The Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention said Saturday it's investigating an outbreak of COVID-19 among people affiliated with a Sanford church.

The agency said there are at least five confirmed cases of the virus involving people affiliated with Calvary Baptist Church in Sanford. State officials have said the outbreak appears to have an overlap with a larger outbreak that centers around a Millinocket wedding reception.

That wedding's officiant came from Calvary Baptist, state officials have said
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The outbreak that centers on the wedding has sickened at least 123 people and killed one.


Multiple COVID-19 outbreaks linked to Millinocket wedding and reception - WVII / Fox Bangor
More and more COVID-19 cases are being connected to a wedding reception in Millinocket earlier this month.


Included on the list are outbreaks at York County Jail and Maplecrest Rehabilitation & Living Center in Madison, and two cases among staff at the Big Moose Inn, where the reception was held.



It was announced Monday there is an outbreak at the Sanford Fire Department, and that outbreak is connected to additional testing of firefighters and their families in nearby Saco and Buxton. Four people in those three towns have COVID-19.
Shah said the Maine CDC is aware of a possible connection between the Millinocket wedding and a Sanford church.

“We have investigated a number of different hypotheses, and when we look at different outbreaks we’re always looking for interconnections between them,” the CDC director said.

The father of the bride in the Millinocket wedding is listed as a pastor at the Calvary Baptist Church in Sanford and a founding member of the Tri Town Baptist Church in East Millinocket, where the wedding was held. In addition, a pastor from the Sanford church posted on Facebook that he was heading to Millinocket to officiate at the wedding. That post has since been removed.
 
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More than 1,200 students test positive for COVID-19 at major university

As of Saturday, more than 1,200 students and 166 employees and staff have tested positive for COVID-19 at the University of Alabama.

Sorry to say, UNC-Chapel Hill isn't far behind. The last figure I saw was 1,025 cases, including more than 50 employees. The good news is that cases have been declining. Many students have gone home since the university switched to online classes, which probably has helped.
 
  • #939
I have a theory, no evidence or MSM articles.

Businesses do not like contact tracing. Because, if one person at work tests positive, that could potentially shut down a business for 2 weeks. As all contacts close to positive case need to be on quarantine.

Businesses also do not like "surveillance testing", testing people weekly, because this potentially identifies a positive case before the person feels symptoms or identifies asymptomatic people.

Believe it or not, we live in a society that prefers to ignore this virus. Many people see it as a "drama", and minimize the community health concerns.

The implications of this are staggering. The CDC could be influenced by lobbyists who are not promoting public health interest, but big corporations.

I sure hope this virus is not like the common cold ---the only thing then that can mitigate the severity would be a vaccine

No one knows. It doesn't look common. If the person gets symptoms again and is found to have the same strain, it's usually called a relapse (and that happens too). I think both things are relatively rare.

However, there's increasing evidence that strong immunity to CoVid may fade over time, even among people with serious cases and possibly without respect to severity of symptoms.

It could very well be like the common cold. One would hope that if a person survives it one time, it might well be less terrible the second time (much like a vaccine)
 
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DBM broken quote.
 
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