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‘How is this possible? What are the odds?’ The Graveson family, on what the coronavirus has done to them — The Washington Post

“We were taking aggressive measures to social distance, but I must have picked it up at the grocery store or somewhere. “

“We were so careful. I wasn’t allowed to see friends, even though I asked my parents like a thousand times a day. We wore masks. We quarantined more than any family I know. “
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That is super scary. How in the heck did they get it? Off a package? Through a mask at the store? Aggressive measures and still got it. Makes no sense. I don’t know if I can hibernate for a year.

I am especially curious about how the young daughter managed to avoid it altogether when she was apparently spending 24/7 in the same household as both her parents and her two siblings who had it with varying degrees of severity.
 
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I am especially curious about how the young daughter managed to avoid it altogether when she was apparently spending 24/7 in the same household as both her parents and her two siblings who had it with varying degrees of severity.
Who knows why a whole family do not get the flu when others in the same house do? When I was a child, I caught chickenpox, I shared a house with my brother and sister and a bedroom with my sister, and they did not get it.
 
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What?

Covid in the Classroom? Some Schools Are Keeping It Quiet

“Staff who test positive are not to notify any other staff members, parents of their students or any other person/entity that they may have exposed them,” Jon Miller, the district’s deputy superintendent, wrote in a confidential email on Aug. 5.

In the weeks since, parents, students and teachers in the coastal community on the Florida border have heard by word of mouth of more positive cases linked to district schools. Some parents said they had been called by local officials and told that their children should quarantine.

But even as fears of an outbreak have grown, the district has refused to publicly confirm a single case, either to the local community or The New York Times.
 
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This kind of thing is what China was accused of.
 
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Virginia Tech tightens the reins .....

Virginia Tech releases new campus safety measure requirements during pandemic

-No gatherings, on or off-campus, that is non-university sanctioned/monitored exceeding 15 people

-Face masks/coverings required at all social gatherings, along with six-foot social distancing. Those who feel that these measures are not possible in a certain situation are expected to leave.

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Outdoor exercise done independently is the only exception to the face-covering requirement

“Immediate interim suspension means no academic classes or student activities until a full student conduct hearing is complete. This will adversely impact your academic career,” adds Shushok, Jr.
 
  • #386
Link to the press briefing and transcript below for those who could not access or listen.

Remarks by President Trump in Press Briefing | August 23, 2020 | The White House

James S. Brady Press Briefing Room
5:32 P.M. EDT



THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. And it’s good to see you all. Hope you had a great weekend at your convention. And we’re going to have a great convention coming up, and I look forward to it.

But before I discuss a very historic breakthrough in our fight against the China virus, I’d like to provide an update on the recent wildfires in California and the storms in the Gulf of Mexico.

Yesterday, I approved a major disaster declaration for California. I spoke to Governor Newsom as they battle two of the worst wildfires in the history of their state. That continues. The federal government has already deployed over 26,000 first responders and personnel to battle the wildfires. We’re working very closely with the governor and very closely with a lot of great state representatives and local representatives, and we’ll take care of the situation. But we have 26,000 first responders already.

Our hearts go out to the thousands of families who have lost their homes. As we grieve for the families of two first responders and five residents who have tragically lost their lives in a very horrific fire — one of the biggest we’ve ever seen — my administration is also closely monitoring Hurricane Marco and Tropical Storm Laura, which are coming in rapidly. Hurricane Marco is expected to make landfall in Louisiana tomorrow, and Tropical Storm Laura is expected to hit Louisiana two days later. This is somewhat unprecedented — the scope of the storms and also the fact that they come so quickly after one another.

Both storms have the potential of gathering strength before they make landfall and could cause significant damage across the Gulf Coast and also in Puerto Rico. We have everybody stationed and ready to go in Puerto Rico and the Gulf Coast, and we have tremendous — tremendous people.

We have — FEMA is lined up. We have the Coast Guard ready. The Coast Guard has — has done a fantastic job. They do so many — they do such good work, and we want to thank our great Coast Guard.

I’m asking all Americans in the storm’s path to follow the instructions of your state and local governments very closely. And I’ve approved emergency declarations for Puerto Rico and for Louisiana. FEMA is mobilized on the ground and is ready to help. They will be in there very quickly — very, very quickly.

And I spoke to Governor John Bel Edwards also, of Louisiana, and I’ve informed him. And at his request, also, a major disaster declaration is signed and ready to go. We have everybody ready in Puerto Rico, the Gulf Coast, Louisiana, and also on the forest fires in California. So we have a great team. Unfortunately, we have some very, very powerful natural disasters.

On the therapeutics front, this is what I’ve been looking to do for a long time. This is a great thing. Today, I’m pleased to make a truly historic announcement in our battle against the China virus that will save countless lives. The FDA has issued an emergency use authorization — and that’s such a powerful term: emergency use authorization — for a treatment known as convalescent plasma. This is a powerful therapy that transfuses very, very strong antibodies from the blood of recovered patients to help treat patients battling a current infection. It’s had an incredible rate of success.

Today’s action will dramatically expand access to this treatment. And I want to thank Dr. Hahn and Secretary Azar. I want to thank the FDA — all of the people that have been working very hard on this. It showed tremendous potential.

This is the only possible — and it’s only made possible because of Operation Warp Speed that has everybody working together. We’re years ahead of approvals. We would be — if we went by the speed levels of past administration, we’d be two years, three years behind where we are today, and that includes in vaccines that you’ll be hearing about very soon, very shortly.

To deliver treatments and vaccine to save lives, we’re removing unnecessary barriers and delays not by cutting corners, but by marshaling the full power of the federal government.

We’ve provided $48 million to fund the Mayo Clinic study that tested the efficacy of convalescent plasma for patients with the virus. Through this study, over 100,000 Americans have already enrolled to receive this treatment, and it has proven to reduce mortality by 35 percent. It’s a tremendous number.

The FDA, MIT, Harvard, and Mount Sinai hospital have also found convalescent plasma to be a very effective method of fighting this horrible disease.

Based on the science and the data, the FDA has made the independent determination that the treatment is safe and very effective. Recently, we provided up to $270 million to the American Red Cross and America’s Blood Centers to support the collection of up to 360,000 units of plasma.

In late July, we launched a nationwide campaign to ask patients to have — who have recovered — and these are patients that have been incredible, the way they’ve donated — but these are people recovering from the virus — to donate plasma. Since then, weekly plasma donations have doubled.

And today, I once again urge all Americans who have recovered from the virus to go to Coronavirus.gov and sign up and donate plasma today please. It’s been really an incredible — just incredible people. The country has united so strongly behind this.

And I’ll go over the numbers, but if you look at what’s happened and the success that we’ve had that people don’t talk about — the United States has experienced the lowest case-fatality rate of any major country in the world. You don’t hear that.

The European Union’s case-fatality rate is estimated to be three times higher than that in the United States. Europe has seen 33 percent more fatalities, compared to a typical non-pandemic year than the United States.

And I just want to ask two of our people that have done such a fantastic job, Alex Azar and Stephen Hahn, to say a few words. And, Stephen, I want to thank you because the FDA really stepped up — and especially over the last few days — in getting this done. The results have been incredible, and I think you’ll see the results even go up very substantially. So we appreciate it.

And maybe I’ll ask Alex to go first, and then Stephen. Thank you very much, Alex.

SECRETARY AZAR: Well, thank you very much, Mr. President. Thanks for the bold leadership that allowed us to deliver this very happy news today.

Thanks to your all-of-America approach, America has done more than any other country to expand the arsenal that we have to battle COVID-19. And thanks to early efforts by your administration, Americans have broader access to these treatments, including convalescent plasma, than patients anywhere else in the world.

In early April, early in our fight against COVID-19, the FDA, BARDA, the Mayo Clinic, and other partners sprang into action to set up an expanded access protocol for this promising treatment.

President Trump is the Right to Try President, and he’s fought hard to ensure that Americans can have access to promising COVID-19 treatments. Convalescent plasma has been a tried-and-true therapeutic method in prior outbreaks, but the President wanted to ensure that we develop the data to support its use, and this FDA authorization is one result of that effort.

The data we gathered suggests that patients who were treated early in their disease course — within three days of being diagnosed — with plasma containing high levels of antibodies benefited the most from treatment. We saw about a 35 percent better survival in the patients who benefited most from the treatment — which were patients under 80 who were not on artificial respiration.

I just want to emphasize this point because I don’t want you to gloss over this — this number. We dream, in drug development, of something like a 35 percent mortality reduction. This is a major advance in the treatment of patients. This is a major advance.

Convalescent plasma is one new tool that we’ve added to our arsenal against COVID-19, alongside remdesivir, steroids, and a number of other promising options currently being studied. Because of the President’s Operation Warp Speed, we expect to have other new results and new options reaching patients as soon as this fall.

Operation Warp Speed is supporting experimental therapeutics all the way through to manufacturing so that if they meet FDA’s gold standard for safety and efficacy, they can begin reaching patients without a day wasted.

Americans who have tested positive for and recovered from COVID-19 can go to Coronavirus.gov to find out a quick, convenient way to play a potentially lifesaving role in our fight. Know: If you donate plasma, you could save a life.

We’ve also provided guidance so healthcare providers can contact patients who have recovered from COVID-19 and give them information on how they can donate.

So, thank you again, Mr. President, for supporting this remarkable progress against COVID-19. And I want to thank Dr. Hahn, Dr. Marks, and the entire team at the FDA for the speed with which they’ve approached this, the diligence to ensure that this meets the standards at FDA.

And I’ll turn it over to Dr. Hahn if that’s okay, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Good. Thank you very much.

Please, Doctor.

DR. HAHN: Thank you, Mr. President, for your leadership. It’s good to be here today to announce FDA’s recent decision. From the beginning of this pandemic, the President has asked FDA to cut back red tape to try to speed medical products into the hands of providers, patients, and American consumers. And I just want to echo the President’s thanks to the more than 17,000 men and women who work at FDA. They have worked day and night to, in fact, do that.

So, plasma is the liquid portion of the blood. That liquid portion contains the natural immunity that someone develops in response to an infection — in this case, COVID-19 — and that liquid portion can be extracted. And for many years, as the President and Secretary Azar said, it’s been given to patients with infectious diseases — for more than 100 years. So there was a really good rationale for why this might work.

And, in fact, as was mentioned, in early April, an expanded-access program was started at the Mayo Clinic with the support of the federal government, under President Trump’s leadership, and that has gone on for the last four months. More than 90,000, close to 100,000 Americans have enrolled in this program and over 70,000 have received treatment. This is one of the largest expanded-access programs in the history of FDA. So, a very successful approach to evaluating how convalescent plasma would work.

So, in the independent judgment of experts and expert scientists at FDA who have reviewed the totality of data — not just the data from this expanded-access program, but more than a dozen published studies, as well as the historical experience associated with this. Those — those scientists have concluded that COVID-19 convalescent plasma is safe and shows promising efficacy, thereby meeting the criteria for an emergency use authorization.

In the optimal treatment — the optimal patients, as described by Secretary Azar, treated with convalescent plasma at the highest titers, there was a 35 percent improvement in survival, which is a significant clinical benefit.

Now, we’re waiting for more data. We’re going to continue to gather data. But this clearly meets the criteria that we’ve established for emergency use authorization, and we’re very pleased with these results.

So, let me just put this in perspective. Many of you know I was a cancer doctor before I became FDA commissioner, and a 35 percent improvement in survival is a pretty substantial clinical benefit. What that means is — and if the data continue to pan out — 100 people who are sick with COVID-19, 35 would have been saved because of the administration of plasma.

We’ve seen a great deal of demand for this from doctors around the country. And what this EUA does — EUA — emergency use authorization today does: It allows us to continue that and meet the demand.

And again, I want to echo the President’s and the Secretary’s ask of the American people: If you’ve recovered from COVID-19, please donate. It could save a life.

And, Mr. President, thank you again.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much, Stephen. I appreciate it.

Okay, any questions, please? Please, go ahead.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. I want to first ask you about the COVID-19 drugs that are in phase three. Are they going to be available to the American population on — you and I talked previously about this idea of Right to Try.

THE PRESIDENT: Right.

Q Can we assure the American people that if it’s being studied and it’s in phase three, you have that right?

THE PRESIDENT: You know, it’s a great question. And I’m not sure a lot of people have been thinking about Right to Try. We’re all waiting for the final answer. And maybe I could ask Stephen, but I would say that Right to Try is exactly — if somebody is virtually terminal — in other words, they’re not going to make it — and if we have these incredible therapies and drugs that are happening, Alex, I think it’s a very interesting question.

I congratulate you for that question because I think —

Q Thank you, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: — we’re all waiting for that exact final endpoint.

What about that, Stephen? We have all of these great — seemingly great answers that are ready to come out, but because of the process, it takes — can we use some of this early, under Right to Try? Please.

DR. HAHN: So it’s a really good question. And, of course, it all depends on the clinical circumstances and what a doctor and a patient together decide, with respect to the administration of any agent.

But if you think about what happened with convalescent plasma and the expanded-access program, this is exactly what happened. This program — so, we have ongoing clinical trials that are randomized between placebo — or an inactive substance — and the convalescent plasma. While that was going on, we knew that there was great demand from patients and doctors. The expanded-access program is a way of actually doing that, and fits perfectly with what the President just said about allowing people to be able to use something that we have now determined to be very safe.

THE PRESIDENT: I think it was something we have to really consider very strongly.

DR. HAHN: Yes, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: I think it’s fantastic.

You should get credit for that.

Q Thank you, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. That’s very good.

Q Mr. President?

THE PRESIDENT: Please, in the back. OAN, please.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Convalescent — convalescent plasma, as a treatment, has been around for, you know, over 100 years. You mentioned Warp — Operation Warp Speed, which enabled this process to move along a lot faster. What into the — what went into the effort for this to be approved for COVID-19? And was that holdup political in nature?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that there might have been a holdup, but we broke the logjam over the last week, to be honest. I think that there are people in the FDA and actually in your larger department that can see things being held up and wouldn’t mind so much. That’s my opinion — a very strong opinion. And that’s for political reasons. This has nothing to do with politics; this has to do with life and death.

So we are being very strong, and we are being very forthright, and we have got some incredible answers. And we’re not going to let them be held up because every day is lives. And we’re not going to let that happen. Okay?

Very good. Thank you.

Q Mr. President?

THE PRESIDENT: Please, go ahead.

Q Mr. President, in announcing this today, you said that “the FDA has made the independent determination that the treatment is safe and very effective.” Yet, Dr. Hahn, just said it was showing “promising efficacy.” So which of the two is correct?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think I’ll let Dr. Hahn answer that question.

DR. HAHN: So, under our legal authority for emergency use authorization, this is not the same as an approval, but it’s an authorization. And it allows us to expand the access to this. And our data — we know we’re going to continue to collect data. We knew that for all of our E- — emergency use authorizations.

So, for example, remdesivir, which approves — was approved or authorized on May 1st, we’re still collecting data. And we will continue to do that with plasma as well.

So it’s the nuances of the language around the authorization that we use and the legal aspects, too.

Q So it’s a promising treatment; it’s not — you couldn’t say it’s very effective just yet?

DR. HAHN: So I would say that a 35 — if you’re one of those 35 out of 100 people who these data suggest or show survive as a result of it, this is pretty significant for that person and their family.

THE PRESIDENT: Okay? This is a very big day. It’s a day we’ve been looking forward to. Thank you very much. Great question. Thank you very much.

END

5:50 P.M. EDT
 
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This is a big surprise.

Teens' anxiety levels dropped in lockdown - study

Researchers compared findings from a survey taken in October last year to answers given by teenagers in May this year. Both girls and boys recorded decreased levels of anxiety during that timeframe.

In October, 54% of 13 to 14-year-old girls and 26% of boys of the same age said they felt anxious.

When surveyed in May - several weeks after schools shut to most pupils and nationwide lockdown restrictions came into force - the proportion dropped to 45% of girls and 18% of boys.

Researchers questioned 1,000 year nine students from 17 secondary schools across the south west of England.

'Big surprise'
"With the whole world in the grip of a devastating pandemic, which has thrown everyone's lives into turmoil, the natural expectation would be to see an increase in anxiety," said lead author Emily Widnall.

"While we saw anxiety levels rise for a few of our participants, it was a big surprise to discover quite the opposite was the case for many of them."

More at link.
 
  • #389
This is a big surprise.

Teens' anxiety levels dropped in lockdown - study

Researchers compared findings from a survey taken in October last year to answers given by teenagers in May this year. Both girls and boys recorded decreased levels of anxiety during that timeframe.

In October, 54% of 13 to 14-year-old girls and 26% of boys of the same age said they felt anxious.

When surveyed in May - several weeks after schools shut to most pupils and nationwide lockdown restrictions came into force - the proportion dropped to 45% of girls and 18% of boys.

Researchers questioned 1,000 year nine students from 17 secondary schools across the south west of England.

'Big surprise'
"With the whole world in the grip of a devastating pandemic, which has thrown everyone's lives into turmoil, the natural expectation would be to see an increase in anxiety," said lead author Emily Widnall.

"While we saw anxiety levels rise for a few of our participants, it was a big surprise to discover quite the opposite was the case for many of them."

More at link.

“Miss Widnall said pupils who felt least connected to school before lockdown saw a larger decrease in anxiety, raising questions about how the school environment affects some younger teenagers' mental well-being.”
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So if they didn’t feel “connected” to the school prior to the pandemic- the anxiety level decreased.
 
  • #390
“Miss Widnall said pupils who felt least connected to school before lockdown saw a larger decrease in anxiety, raising questions about how the school environment affects some younger teenagers' mental well-being.”
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So if they didn’t feel “connected” to the school prior to the pandemic- the anxiety level decreased.
Yes, some of those "least connected" younger teenagers anxiety decreased by a larger amount. It also shows girls were more than twice as anxious as boys in general.
 
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This is the study that is referred to by the Times headline that I posted in the UK front pages post.

Study finds very low numbers of COVID-19 outbreaks in schools

Report dated 23 Aug 2020

Excerpt from report.

PHE found that there were more likely to be outbreaks in those areas that also had a high COVID-19 incidence, suggesting transmission in the community was driving the spread in schools. This demonstrates the continued need to control the spread of infection in the community to help keep schools open, with all playing their part by washing their hands, wearing face coverings, keeping distance and getting a test if they have symptoms.

Staff members were more likely to be affected by the virus than students, though not more likely than the general population as a whole. Where children did contract the infection, they were most likely to catch COVID-19 at home, usually from a parent. Half the outbreaks did not involve any students at all and transmission between students was very rare.

The research, SARS-CoV-2 infection and transmission in educational settings: cross-sectional analysis of clusters and outbreaks in England, has been submitted to the Lancet.

Dr Shamez Ladhani, Public Health England, said:

SARS-CoV2 infections and outbreaks were uncommon in educational settings during the first month after the easing of national lockdown in England. The strong correlation with regional SARS-CoV-2 incidence emphasises the importance of controlling community transmission to protect educational settings. Additional interventions should focus on reducing transmission in and among staff members.

Background
The probable source in 20 of the 30 outbreaks was staff-to-staff or staff-to-student transmission. Student-to-staff transmission was the likely source in 6 cases, and student-to-student in 2. The transmission source could not be established in 2 outbreaks.

Although not all school years were open during the study period, the number of open educational settings in England rose from 20,500 to 23,400 between 1 and 30 June, and the number of children attending any educational setting increased from 475,000 to 1,646,000.

The results of this study are consistent with other research into the extent to which children are affected by COVID-19. PHE’s school serosurveillance study (sKIDs) will examine rates of antibody prevalence across educational settings. Preliminary results of that study are expected in the coming weeks.
 
  • #392
Dr Fauci did a segment on our 60 Minutes show last night - interviewed over zoom or some other face-to-face program. The segment was called The Good Doctor.

He spoke of many things related to covid. His frustration while watching people's behaviour, his upset at threats to his family, his allegiance to no political party "I work for the United States people and have for many years".
He refused to be drawn into any controversial conversation about his relationship with the president. Said that they have their differences of opinon, his is based on science, they have a 'good' relationship, and he sees the president every couple of weeks somewhere.
He said a couple of very nice things about my country.
Overall, he came across as a lovely, soft spoken man.


(Vaccines) ... "There are three candidates out of six that we're supporting [in the US] that are in advanced phase 3 trials," Dr Fauci said.
"Which means the question being asked is not only whether it is safe but whether it actually works [and] is it effective?

Dr Fauci said there was too much uncertainty to guarantee a timeframe for when life would return to normal.
"I would think as we gradually go into next year with a good vaccine and good public health, after a period of time, that could be a year or it could be two, we will gradually get enough protection globally that we will not have to have the very strict concerns we have now," he said.

Dr Fauci
 
  • #393
Another thing that I have noticed today is that we are settling in for the longer haul.

In my state:
The "nerve centre" of South Australia's fight against coronavirus will double in size, as authorities warn it will "take years" for the state to recover from the global pandemic.
SA Premier Steven Marshall said the State Control Centre, which coordinates emergency response efforts, would undergo a "very significant" expansion.
"This heralds what we already know, and that is that we are going to be living with this major emergency declaration in South Australia and a global pandemic for a considerable time to come," he said.

In Victoria:
Premier Daniel Andrews is seeking to extend the state of emergency for another 12 months

In Queensland:
Dr Spurrier said people planning to go to Queensland should "rethink their travel plans", but that there was no ban on travel.

SA's coronavirus response to last 'two years' as COVID HQ gets set for expansion
 
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We are hearing today about the beginning of the Melbourne outbreak ... the security guard testified at the judicial inquiry. They are calling him #16.

He fell ill after working at the quarantine hotel. Stuffing his mask in his pocket for breaks, then re-using it as instructed by his boss.
As he felt quite ill, he stayed home for a few days. Then he got bored, so he went and worked a second job of ..... delivering food.
After that he went and worked another job in a warehouse.

And now look at what has happened. The hundreds of people who have died .....


ETA Source: Ch9 TV News
 
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We are hearing today about the beginning of the Melbourne outbreak ... the security guard testified at the judicial inquiry. They are calling him #16.

He fell ill after working at the quarantine hotel. Stuffing his mask in his pocket for breaks, then re-using it, as instructed by his boss.
As he felt ill, he stayed home for a few days, Then he got bored, so he went and worked a second job of ..... delivering food.
After that he went and worked another job in a warehouse.

And now look at what has happened. The hundreds of people who have died .....

Oh gosh. :(
 
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Man in Walmart gives customers hugs and tells them they now have Covid-19

Springfield police are looking for a man who allegedly gave a Walmart shopper a "Covid hug."

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The police department in Massachusetts said the incident took place at a Walmart on August 15 around 7:10 p.m. The suspect, whom the victim had never seen before, took an item out of his hand and then gave him a hug.

"Just giving you a Covid hug. You now have Covid," the suspect said before laughing and walking away, according to the Springfield Police Department.

The victim is a cancer survivor, adding that the suspect did the same thing to several other customers.

The department is asking that anyone with information contact the detective bureau.
 
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Who knows why a whole family do not get the flu when others in the same house do? When I was a child, I caught chickenpox, I shared a house with my brother and sister and a bedroom with my sister, and they did not get it.

My question relates to the fact that there have been numerous reports of Covid-19 affecting men more severely than women, and I’m curious about whether similar differences have been observed in the infection rates of young boys vs. young girls.
 
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Virginia Tech tightens the reins .....

Virginia Tech releases new campus safety measure requirements during pandemic

-No gatherings, on or off-campus, that is non-university sanctioned/monitored exceeding 15 people

-Face masks/coverings required at all social gatherings, along with six-foot social distancing. Those who feel that these measures are not possible in a certain situation are expected to leave.

-
Outdoor exercise done independently is the only exception to the face-covering requirement

“Immediate interim suspension means no academic classes or student activities until a full student conduct hearing is complete. This will adversely impact your academic career,” adds Shushok, Jr.
Have a friend whose kid is there—I was skeptical, to say the least, when her daughter reported that the VT students were taking this virus seriously, wearing masks and distancing themselves, and (most unbelievable of all!) not partying it up like we have seen happening at other schools. Well, maybe I was wrong—it looks (on paper, at least) like the VT leadership is taking this very, very seriously and maybe that attitude is trickling down to the student body. Only time will tell, though, right?
 
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Agree. Sounds like we have the same routine. Once you get used to not touching your face, it gets a lot easier and less scary.

People don't realize how often they touch their face--- you really have to make a concerted effort not to do that and it takes a little time to stop yourself every time you want to do that. Now it is life and death---- I had a boss recently: we would be talking and he would be rubbing his nose constantly- touching his face, rubbing his eyes-- this was before the pandemic: now, i would probably run out of the room LOL
 
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Dr Fauci did a segment on our 60 Minutes show last night - interviewed over zoom or some other face-to-face program. The segment was called The Good Doctor.

He spoke of many things related to covid. His frustration while watching people's behaviour, his upset at threats to his family, his allegiance to no political party "I work for the United States people and have for many years".
He refused to be drawn into any controversial conversation about his relationship with the president. Said that they have their differences of opinon, his is based on science, they have a 'good' relationship, and he sees the president every couple of weeks somewhere.
He said a couple of very nice things about my country.
Overall, he came across as a lovely, soft spoken man.


(Vaccines) ... "There are three candidates out of six that we're supporting [in the US] that are in advanced phase 3 trials," Dr Fauci said.
"Which means the question being asked is not only whether it is safe but whether it actually works [and] is it effective?

Dr Fauci said there was too much uncertainty to guarantee a timeframe for when life would return to normal.
"I would think as we gradually go into next year with a good vaccine and good public health, after a period of time, that could be a year or it could be two, we will gradually get enough protection globally that we will not have to have the very strict concerns we have now," he said.

Dr Fauci

As an aside, I am a race horse fan, and guess what, there is a horse named Fauci- he is a good horse and just ran 2nd at Saratoga: i think Dr. Fauci would be amused to know there is a race horse named after him!!!
 
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