Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #76

[I'm Just Here]

I'm not sure if this can be posted or not. It is sort of Covid related since we are only allowed window visits with my mother in law. I guess window visits are at least better than nothing. There have been times when she mentions she wishes she wouldn't have voted. Because of her one vote she is being tortured by people. She has claimed her son (my husband) has called up Putin and now causing people to do things to her to make her sick or kill her. Needless to say he will leave me visiting alone since he feels he is the cause of making her unhappy. She has asked my husband "are you going to stop them from doing things to me tonight?" Our last visit it seemed she was more confused of why she was at the home and brought into the hospital then felt weaker afterwards. She never left the home. My husbands brother in another state was on the phone with us and must have calmed her down enough to satisfy her that she will be safe. We never know when she will bring up her being tortured is because of my husband talk.

 

[Bravo]

You really do have a lot on your plate I'm Just Here. Sending you a big hug. My heart goes out to your MIL and all of you.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I'm not sure if this can be posted or not. It is sort of Covid related since we are only allowed window visits with my mother in law. I guess window visits are at least better than nothing. There have been times when she mentions she wishes she wouldn't have voted. Because of her one vote she is being tortured by people. She has claimed her son (my husband) has called up Putin and now causing people to do things to her to make her sick or kill her. Needless to say he will leave me visiting alone since he feels he is the cause of making her unhappy. She has asked my husband "are you going to stop them from doing things to me tonight?" Our last visit it seemed she was more confused of why she was at the home and brought into the hospital then felt weaker afterwards. She never left the home. My husbands brother in another state was on the phone with us and must have calmed her down enough to satisfy her that she will be safe. We never know when she will bring up her being tortured is because of my husband talk.

I hope your husband doesn't blame himself. I have a theory the child that seems to be in charge of caretaking gets the blame for everything. I went through some stuff with my mother, she's 94, during all this. She told her doctor I tried to kill her with poison. Then instructed ME to fish through a bag and "find the baggie with your name on it". I presented the poison probiotics to her doctor. It is NOT easy.

 

[24Roses]

Antigens are traces of your body's struggle against CoVid; remnants of the toxin that caused your body to produce antibodies. So, evidence that you've had CoVid recently but were not diagnosed while it was still active.

I don't think most places are combining those numbers at this point in time, but it does show a better sense of the rate of CoVid, if that's what is wanted.

IMHO, I thought those were serology tests? Iowa has been doing those for awhile and reporting on the covid site. The antigen tests are the new ones on the site. I'm confident they are different sets of numbers (those tested and negative and positive).
Iowa COVID-19 Information Serology tests here.
Iowa COVID-19 Information Antigen tests are listed in here.

 

[tresir2012]

I'm not sure if this can be posted or not. It is sort of Covid related since we are only allowed window visits with my mother in law. I guess window visits are at least better than nothing. There have been times when she mentions she wishes she wouldn't have voted. Because of her one vote she is being tortured by people. She has claimed her son (my husband) has called up Putin and now causing people to do things to her to make her sick or kill her. Needless to say he will leave me visiting alone since he feels he is the cause of making her unhappy. She has asked my husband "are you going to stop them from doing things to me tonight?" Our last visit it seemed she was more confused of why she was at the home and brought into the hospital then felt weaker afterwards. She never left the home. My husbands brother in another state was on the phone with us and must have calmed her down enough to satisfy her that she will be safe. We never know when she will bring up her being tortured is because of my husband talk.

I think you/your husband needs to talk to her doctor about this. This sounds to me like she could be hallucinating - another reason why you need to have more than window visits IMO.

 

[mickey2942]

Nevada man’s COVID-19 reinfection said to be first confirmed case in US

This is not good news.

 

[24Roses]

Iowa news today: As of 10:30-11:00 a.m. today, we had 1,081 new confirmed cases (antigen and PCR) for a total of 63,112 confirmed cases of which 46,394 have recovered (+497). 17 more had passed away for a total of 1,108.Over 1,000 COVID-19 cases added to state count as deaths exceed 1,100 total
Iowa COVID-19 Information
Data differences, delays from private labs behind discrepancies in COVID-19 rates Iowa says
Sorority and Fraternity Houses Self-Isolate After Members Test Positive for Coronavirus | who13.com
Polk County Board of Supervisors Blasts Gov. Reynolds Over Lack of Mask Mandate | who13.com

 

[Tillicum]

I have a question and hope someone has a link with the answer. Say a family of three are tested and 1 is positive, the others are negative. They all isolate together at home for 14 days. 7 days after first positive case another tests positive. The first to test positive is recovered without symptoms for 3 days - 14 days after testing positive. The second to test positive is mildly sick at home. Do the first positive and the negative still have to quarantine after the 14 days? Can they spread Covid from the one still sick to others?

 

[I'm Just Here]

Is reinfection with Covid19 because the person had a mild case the first time? Or because there are several strains of the virus? I don't know what is going on, wonder if a person can just keep getting it over and over.

 

[ilovewings]

Nevada man’s COVID-19 reinfection said to be first confirmed case in US

This is not good news.

so will this evil virus be like a cold virus that you can get again and again????

 

[Tillicum]

so will this evil virus be like a cold virus that you can get again and again????

I pray not.

 

[I'm Just Here]

Several people tested positive, 2 co workers and 1 resident where my sister works. Four days later she was tested and it was negative. I wonder if four days was long enough to be accurate? A couple days later another worker was positive. How often would a person need to be tested? And they do wear masks at work. I am thinking the people she works with only get tested if they have symptoms. I wonder why they aren't tested more often in senior care homes?

 

[tresir2012]

@Tillicum

These are the CDC guidelines.

(ETA it looks like scenario 3 is similar to your example IMO )

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Who needs to quarantine?

People who have been in close contact with someone who has COVID-19—excluding people who have had COVID-19 within the past 3 months.

People who have tested positive for COVID-19 do not need to quarantine or get tested again for up to 3 months as long as they do not develop symptoms again. People who develop symptoms again within 3 months of their first bout of COVID-19 may need to be tested again if there is no other cause identified for their symptoms.

other symptoms of COVID-19

• If possible, stay away from others, especially people who are at higher risk for getting very sick from COVID-19

When to start and end quarantine
You should stay home for 14 days after your last contact with a person who has COVID-19.

For all of the following scenarios, even if you test negative for COVID-19 or feel healthy, you should stay home (quarantine) since symptoms may appear 2 to 14 days after exposure to the virus.

See scenarios below to determine when you can end quarantine and be around others.

Scenario 1: Close contact with someone who has COVID-19—will not have further close contact
I had close contact with someone who has COVID-19 and will not have further contact or interactions with the person while they are sick (e.g., co-worker, neighbor, or friend).

Your last day of quarantine is 14 days from the date you had close contact.

Date of last close contact with person who has COVID-19 + 14 days= end of quarantine

Scenario 2: Close contact with someone who has COVID-19—live with the person but can avoid further close contact
I live with someone who has COVID-19 (e.g., roommate, partner, family member), and that person has isolated by staying in a separate bedroom. I have had no close contact with the person since they isolated.

Your last day of quarantine is 14 days from when the person with COVID-19 began home isolation.

Date person with COVID-19 began home isolation + 14 days = end of quarantine

Scenario 3. Under quarantine and had additional close contact with someone who has COVID-19
I live with someone who has COVID-19 and started my 14-day quarantine period because we had close contact. What if I ended up having close contact with the person who is sick during my quarantine? What if another household member gets sick with COVID-19? Do I need to restart my quarantine?

Yes. You will have to restart your quarantine from the last day you had close contact with anyone in your house who has COVID-19. Any time a new household member gets sick with COVID-19 and you had close contact, you will need to restart your quarantine.

Date of additional close contact with person who has COVID-19 + 14 days = end of quarantine

Scenario 4: Live with someone who has COVID-19 and cannot avoid continued close contact
I live in a household where I cannot avoid close contact with the person who has COVID-19. I am providing direct care to the person who is sick, don’t have a separate bedroom to isolate the person who is sick, or live in close quarters where I am unable to keep a physical distance of 6 feet.

You should avoid contact with others outside the home while the person is sick, and quarantine for 14 days after the person who has COVID-19 meets the criteria to end home isolation.

Date the person with COVID-19 ends home isolation + 14 days = end of quarantine

 

[ilovewings]

I am going through similar things with my husband. In fact a few days ago he blew up and said "hoax virus everyone is afraid up, it's not real"etc... I feel he knows it is real but thinks it is not as bad as we are being told. I try to be light on the subject when I correct him since he gets so upset. Threw a 2 year old fit at the bank drive through, lol! Because of Covid the line took longer plus he blamed me for not having the hand gel out fast enough after he was done! He acted like I lost it even though I showed him to remind him and put it down again. " Where is the hand gel then bla, bla, bla," acts like I punish him. I think it might be because I kindly asked him to do the small things that he can do for me if he thinks this is all pointless to keep doing. I said I don't want the illness. Yup, really can be stressful and we usually get along so well, 29 years of being married and things are really crap at times. I know several of his friends are real dorks with the talking of it being made up plus one won't wear a mask unless it is posted. We now have senior home window visits with his mom. Seeing a tear in her eye the other day and her saying she is afraid because her body feels paralyzed is heartbreaking. Crushes me that I can't hug her or be near her. Several cases around her and I keep praying she will be safe from that. She was just put on oxygen, she has a blood cancer and has problems with her thinking off and on. Covid19 has taken lives and keeps hurting people in so many ways. Hard to stay positive, in fact lately I was physically sick from everything. My heart is broken not only for me but for us all. I laid around all day and I can't even eat without feeling sick. I feel like it will never get better, this is it just going to stay this way until we all go nuts. I usually stay more upbeat but I hope these next days get better. Sometimes I want to just "live" not to worry, I want to hug my mother in law, I don't want to fear my parents may get sick and I want to hold my grandsons so bad - their mommy works Hospice and there have been positives there too. Feel like the hope is slowly leaving. Sorry that I babbled on, I just need to empty I am sure I will pop around again but if not I am getting help because this is just getting to be too much. Take care WS friends.

If it wasn't for me my husband would most likely not take precautions like masking and social distancing. He knows there is a serious virus out there, but he also believes there is an element of hype ( I guess 180,000 dead people and 5 million sick people
isn't enough for him to be convinced her deadly serious this virus is)- He thinks the virus is being hyped to hurt Trump- what can i say??? In any event it is unfortunate we are not on the same page but at least he complies with necessary precautions. I am
sorry you have so much on your plate: this virus has caused so much pain involving families- please know you can always share your feelings with us here- you certainly are not babbling- try and keep on hoping for better things--- There are days I just break down and cry- feeling terrified of getting this horrible virus and how life has changed--- and we have no idea when our lives will get normal again--

 

[ilovewings]

I'm a golfer wings. Do you know what protocols are in place at the Course? Is your husband distancing when golfing. That is easy to do so I would not worry about a mask outdoors. Our Club has very strict measures in place. I wont list them all but tee times are staggered. One person to a golf cart. Flag stick remains in. One person in the Club House with a mask at a time to pay. Temp taken and usual questions asked. Your cart is sanitized in front of you and fellow sanitizes his hands and then loads your clubs for you etc. etc. I just wouldn't hang around to eat/drink on the patio but that's just me.

I asked my husband what protocols are in place. No taking of temp-- carts are sanitized when the golfer returns it: one golfer to a cart- the flag stick remains in: he plays with 3 other golfers- no real distancing. he says they don't get really close, no shaking hands or any of that.

 

[weepingangel]

'I'm going to keep going': Father builds desks for remote learning families
More at link
When one family in Omaha, Nebraska began learning online, a dad started filling a need, not only for his children but for others in the neighborhood as well.

Marcus Holley has been spending a lot his time building lately. It all started when he realized learning from home meant he'd have to learn something too.

"I went to YouTube and I said 'how do you make a desk,'" he explained.

Minutes later, he was hard at work. Once his kids had desks, he went to work for others.

 

[weepingangel]

Exercise and COVID-19 can be a dangerous combination, new evidence shows
Much more at link
“This goes against my personal exercise philosophy that burpees cure pretty much everything and the advice I have given for 20 years that it’s okay to exercise through minor sickness symptoms,” Dr. Metzl says. “COVID-19 plays by different rules when it comes to sports and exercise.”

 

[mickey2942]

I have a theory, no evidence or MSM articles.

Businesses do not like contact tracing. Because, if one person at work tests positive, that could potentially shut down a business for 2 weeks. As all contacts close to positive case need to be on quarantine.

Businesses also do not like "surveillance testing", testing people weekly, because this potentially identifies a positive case before the person feels symptoms or identifies asymptomatic people.

Believe it or not, we live in a society that prefers to ignore this virus. Many people see it as a "drama", and minimize the community health concerns.

The implications of this are staggering. The CDC could be influenced by lobbyists who are not promoting public health interest, but big corporations.

 

[tresir2012]

Is reinfection with Covid19 because the person had a mild case the first time? Or because there are several strains of the virus? I don't know what is going on, wonder if a person can just keep getting it over and over.

This article may help to explain. It's complicated.

Coronavirus immunity: Can you catch it twice?

 

[SouthAussie]

My son had a March booked flight and could not return because the country he was in cancelled all the flights early March so that was not the case. His airline gave him a voucher but there were no flights at all. His Embassy arranged the charter eventually and got him and hundreds of others home. That is what your Embassy is there for if you get stuck abroad. Maybe you have a link about Australia and July but that certainly was not the case for Europe.

From Tmar's link - this is the problem- the caps on flights.

'Naomi Nguyen, a 22-year-old from Sydney, is one such Australian who had been working as an English language assistant at a high school in Spain when the country entered lockdown on March 14.

'Since the Australian government has now decided to bring in flight restrictions/capacities, it has been almost impossible to return home,' Ms Nguyen wrote.

'In Sydney, it is also only 30 passengers per plane. So airlines are prioritising business passengers for those 30 seats, the only way to make money. ' "

Australia needs to charter and fly their citizens back, foregoing the caps temporarily IMO.

We did charter flights to fly our citizens home. And we still charter flights to fly our citizens home.

Ever since the outbreak in Melbourne, we have capped those flights at 4,000 people per week. (They were initially capped at 7,000 people per week.)

The reason that we have done this is due to our hotel quarantine system. We need to bring home the quantity of people we can safely quarantine, without stressing the systems too much.
The quarantined people need to be bused, housed, then watched (obviously, after Melbourne), fed, tested twice per person, and people need to run around and get them everything they want.

Almost none of these returning citizens are coming from a 'safe' country. They are coming from countries that are loaded up with the virus.

As was stated in a previous post, flights were flying freely until the end of March when the initial capping went into place. My US visitor flew back to the US in June on one of the in/out charter flights.

Australians were warned and warned and warned that the borders were closing and coming home would grow more difficult. (As was my US visitor, in regular emails from the US embassy.)

'I'm screwed': Australians fear being stranded overseas after inbound flights slashed