Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #78

[tresir2012]

UK may be losing control of the virus.

:-(

Latest BBC news on Oxford vaccine and virus spread.


Oxford University to resume Covid-19 vaccine trial

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"Hopes have been high that the vaccine might be one of the first to come on the market, following successful phase 1 and 2 testing.

Its move to Phase 3 testing in recent weeks has involved some 30,000 participants in the US as well as in the UK, Brazil and South Africa. Phase 3 trials in vaccines often involve thousands of participants and can last several years.

Risk of 'losing control'
The World Health Organization (WHO) says nearly 180 vaccine candidates are being tested around the world but none has yet completed clinical trials.

The news comes after Prof Sir Mark Walport, a member of the government's scientific advisory group Sage, warned the UK was "on the edge of losing control of the virus".

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "You've only got to look across the Channel to see what is happening in France and what's happening in Spain."

Official figures released on Saturday showed a further 3,497 people have tested positive with the virus in the UK.

Official figures indicate the UK's coronavirus epidemic is growing again, after the R number - the reproduction rate of the virus - was raised to between 1 and 1.2 for the first time since March.
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More at link.

 

[Yvettea]

RBBM

I hope everyone listens to this September Briefing from WHO. The collective medical and research wisdom is critically important to hear. Everyone of us here on this COVID forum does have more knowledge about the virus than most... around the US, anyway. If people could spread the expert information to squelch the crazy hype/hope/Help!! that swirls around facebook, and other controversial forums.... we could help more people come together--- especially around the crazy and distorted information people are going to hear about vaccines.........

A thousand likes!

 

[Cool Cats]

September 10, 2020, 4:39 PM EDT·

Dr. Fauci Just Said How You'll Most Likely Get COVID

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Transmission From Surfaces Isn't Understood
The Virus Isn't Just In Respiratory Droplets
Animals Can Be Infected
Events, Not One Person, Are Super-Spreaders
Asymptomatic Transmission Is Higher Than Previously Thought
What's "Most Perplexing" About COVID
The Worst Underlying Health Condition To Have
His Not-So-Subtle Criticism of Washington
This Is "The Holy Grail" of COVID
He Expects Multiple Vaccines
Why Some People Have Severe COVID and Some Don't
The Number of Cases Depresses Him
These States Are Currently Surging
Why We Want Australia's Recent Flu Season
It's Time to "Hunker Down"
What "Concerns" Him About Vaccine Distribution
What He's Learned From COVID

 

[CSIDreamer]

Indiana has 17 new deaths 9/2-9/11.

A genuinely nice man I know will be on the death count tomorrow probably. He danced into heaven just a few hours ago.

ISDH - Novel Coronavirus: Indiana COVID-19 Dashboard

 

[SoCalDavidS]

I hate to compare crises and horrible things that have happened in our world, just having passed the 19th anniversary of 911 yesterday, and comparing it to this pandemic, I feel the pandemic is the worst crisis of our time. 911 was horrible beyond words---and we will never get over it in this country.

What do you think would happen if a Terrorist nation, say Iran, were to orchestrate an attack that essentially wiped out the entire Population of a U.S. City of around 200K?

What if instead of a single day with 3,000 Deaths from a Terrorist Attack, we had 65 Consecutive Days with an attack?

In this case, rather than an attack, we did it to ourselves. Like just happened in Beirut.

 

[ilovewings]

Dr. Fauci Just Said How You'll Most Likely Get COVID

Thank you for posting that most informative link.

 

[Cool Cats]

Thank you for posting that most informative link.

Glad I could post something helpful. You often do "lovewings" and most on here do. Glad we have this thread. Its my go-to thread for covid news.

 

[Trino]

RBBM

A thousand likes!

Wonderful idea, except there are those who will never accept the truth. Just saw a Michigan rally video where a man called the pandemic a hoax. Never change the mind of a guy like that.

 

[KALI]

Yes. I do.

A Canadian can have a permanent residence in the US?

 

[ilovewings]

Glad I could post something helpful. You often do "lovewings" and most on here do. Glad we have this thread. Its my go-to thread for covid news.

Actually this site and all the wonderful people on here have helped keep me sane!!!

 

[tresir2012]

Coronavirus cases soar by 3,497 in the UK in the highest Saturday rise in FOUR MONTHS | Daily Mail Online

Another DM link but this one has numerous pics and graphs and shows in the pics what the police in Cardiff have to deal with.

Looks like UK are in trouble with the case increases but so far, the deaths and hospitalisations have not increased. Interesting survey also included in the pics.

 

[Knitty]

It's sad alright. We also have to remember that thousands of CoVid sufferers died alone in hospitals, without their families at their side, even when they lived in the same community and border crossings were not at issue.

Indeed. I personally know two people who lost family members to COVID, one who was taken to the hospital for COVID and spent the next 10 days there before dying, and another whose father was in a nursing home - but for rehab following a surgery. In both cases, the guilt of not being there is enormous.

 

[dmac55]

Of all the sad things about this pandemic, this is the saddest. people dying alone without comfort from a loved one. I hate to compare crises and horrible things that have happened in our world, just having passed the 19th anniversary of 911 yesterday, and comparing it to this pandemic, I feel the pandemic is the worst crisis of our time. 911 was horrible beyond words---and we will never get over it in this country- but the pandemic goes on and on and has killed not only 200,000 in the US but millions more around the world: and made millions more very very ill. It has decimated jobs and upended peoples' lives without an end in sight. It has also prevented us from reaching out to touch, to comfort people, not only who are dying, but who are living. And we know there are more sicknesses and deaths to come-- and yet we must all stay apart- away from our loved ones. it is too horrible for words.

Re: the 19th anniversary of 911 yesterday

I remember how it felt to me that the entire country bonded together during that time, and set differences aside, to help the nation heal
People who weren't even directly affected by 911 had compassion, empathy, and a great deal of care for those who were, and our country as a whole
I think that's still true about 911

Not so much with the COVID-19 pandemic

After backspacing alot, I'll leave it at that
It's just my view and experiences

 

[Knitty]

What do you think would happen if a Terrorist nation, say Iran, were to orchestrate an attack that essentially wiped out the entire Population of a U.S. City of around 200K?

What if instead of a single day with 3,000 Deaths from a Terrorist Attack, we had 65 Consecutive Days with an attack?

In this case, rather than an attack, we did it to ourselves. Like just happened in Beirut.

My goodness. I hadn't thought of it quite that way before.

List of United States cities by population - Wikipedia

As of this minute - 197,678 deaths is just over the number of people in Akron OH, or Little Rock AR, or Tempe AZ. Wow. My heart is in my stomach.

 

[Sprockett7701]

For some reason, the side effects of montelukast are especially pronounced in children and teenagers. I’ve taken montelukast for asthma for over a decade with no ill effects. I was in my 50s when I started the medication.

There is a side effects group on FB, which was instrumental in getting the black box warning in the US, and the majority of posters are the parents of young chn and teens, however there are some adults that suffer too...

The GP that I ended up seeing about my son, after being told by one GP that “my son has been on it for 20yrs with no problems, I don’t have time for your crap” and walking out of his office, his wife had been prescribed it and he witnessed the side effects himself.

I find it concerning that it’s prescribed to chn with little to no warnings of the side effects, yet this sane drug is being touted for Covid use in adults and also for use in people with dementia...crazy pharmas...

 

[mickey2942]

Indeed. I personally know two people who lost family members to COVID, one who was taken to the hospital for COVID and spent the next 10 days there before dying, and another whose father was in a nursing home - but for rehab following a surgery. In both cases, the guilt of not being there is enormous.

I really have issues with this. It has taken the patient's rights away. And family members have zero rights. The medical model has completely negated the importance of family members.

At least one person should be allowed. Some hospitals are allowing this, others are not.

 

[musicaljoke]

Wonderful idea, except there are those who will never accept the truth. Just saw a Michigan rally video where a man called the pandemic a hoax. Never change the mind of a guy like that.

No, we can't change his mind. Part of me just wants to brush him off and let him fall to his fate, but we can't do that. As a society, imo, we have an obligation to protect those who aren't able to process information about the virus, whether it's due to poor education, some mental incapacities, or just because they are idiots by choice.

So we enact public health regulations for their protection and put up with their animated whining about it.

 

[Sprockett7701]

@tresir2012 I think it was you that asked for a link for this a couple of pages back, not the OP but didn’t see a reply, and sorry if it wasn’t you...

Superyacht skipper admits lying to get COVID-19 border exemption for wealthy family

 

[10ofRods]

Great news!

Except, apparently not restarting in the US or elsewhere just yet. 18,000 people have been placed in the trials (they're aiming for 30,000 people in the UK and IIRC, 80,000 in the US). This is the second pause.

So, that means no late October vaccine available (unless the UK accepts a short trial period with a lesser number of people). Certainly, the US will want a larger trial before approving it.

AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine clinical trials resume in U.K. after pause over safety concerns

 

[CSIDreamer]

Of all the sad things about this pandemic, this is the saddest. people dying alone without comfort from a loved one. I hate to compare crises and horrible things that have happened in our world, just having passed the 19th anniversary of 911 yesterday, and comparing it to this pandemic, I feel the pandemic is the worst crisis of our time. 911 was horrible beyond words---and we will never get over it in this country- but the pandemic goes on and on and has killed not only 200,000 in the US but millions more around the world: and made millions more very very ill. It has decimated jobs and upended peoples' lives without an end in sight. It has also prevented us from reaching out to touch, to comfort people, not only who are dying, but who are living. And we know there are more sicknesses and deaths to come-- and yet we must all stay apart- away from our loved ones. it is too horrible for words.

This is very heartfelt and I agree.

On the BBM part. Who are you using for reference? None of my regular sites are showing a death toll in the millions. I'm getting a bit anxious here. Jmo