Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #79

[tresir2012]

2nd vaccine begins phase III trials in UK, the Novavax vaccine.

UK government have 250k volunteers signed up already to test all the upcoming vaccines.

10,000 UK volunteers to take part in new COVID-19 vaccine trials

 

[Rose in SC]

To keep the burglars away, hang a notice on your door/windows: "Quarantine in effect. Covid here!"

That's assuming they can read.

I'm so paranoid, I might actually do this, lol!!! Maybe add a skull and crossbones for dramatic effect -

 

[tresir2012]

I cannot say I am surprised. Students all over UK being locked down in Uni halls. My view is they may as well all mix on campus and get it now and quarantine so they can go home at Christmas. It will just prolong it otherwise IMO.

Covid outbreak: Manchester Metropolitan University students in lockdown

Covid: Rent offer to isolating students in Glasgow

Police break up parties at student halls

Scottish students: 'Why have they sent us here?'

Three more areas of Wales to go into lockdown

 

[10ofRods]

England struggles to control new CV upswing as Londoners party in the streets just after curfew begins:

Moment 'impromptu party' kicks off at Oxford Circus after 10pm curfew

...while ⅔rds of Brits think new restrictions don't go far enough:

Exclusive poll: Two-thirds of Britons think coronavirus restrictions do not go far enough

(I suspect that this is really divided by age...)

Sweden had its most active week so far in terms of CoVid cases, reasons aren't completely clear:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/sweden-coronavirus-debate-lockdown-new-cases/

This new upswing is making some rethink what they wrote about Sweden just two weeks ago - and now Sweden is contemplating governmental measures (restrictions) to combat this new rise - apparently the highest weekly figures since the pandemic came to Sweden.

Excess death figures from the U.S. show that we passed the 200,000 death mark earlier than thought:

The True Coronavirus Toll in the U.S. Has Already Surpassed 200,000

and North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Utah, Iowa, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Montana and Idaho continue to lead the list of states with rising cases (7 day rolling averages), while a few states (Texas, Colorado, Arizona, others) are responding to small increases in cases. Hospital capacity may be stretched in the first list, there are no issues with hospital care inn the second list.

North Dakota and Missouri saw the greatest increase in deaths (7 day average).

Covid in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Good Point!!!!


Part of the problem were the mixed messages at the beginning of the pandemic from scientists and the Surgeon General- "no need for masks" "they are ineffective"- blah blah blah and then-- the really, for lack of a better word, stupid message that masks don't really protect the person that wears it, you wear it to help others: then months later they come out and say, oh wait a minute, the masks help protect the person who wears it too; DUH~!!!! Let's face it, people care more about themselves than about others- they should have said from the get-go, masks help protect the person who wears it- and if they didn't know that, some people will think how can you trust what they are telling us? now those of us with a brain bigger than a pea can use that brain and common sense to tell you that a mask acts as a barrier to whatever other people are ejecting from their nose and mouth.

I still think people make such a bigger deal than they should, over the change regarding mask wearing. The traditional message had always been "not sick, no need for mask".

The world had just not realized that the asymptomatic monster was such a huge deal. We learned and we changed. So to be so determined to go back and blame the CDC is a real shame to me.

The old expression of "building the plane" when it is already down the runway, applies here. We are learning sooo much more.

It was only a few weeks ago we were getting all the news about the bradykinin storm.... totally different pathology than had been interpreted before. Who even remembers ...now???? I keep wondering if the more we learn will actually invalidate certain vaccines. I hope not...but nothing will surprise me!

Is a Bradykinin Storm Brewing in COVID-19?

I still feel as if we are waiting for, but actually living through a hurricane, a hurricane that keeps coming back around with more damage.

 

[ilovewings]

I still think people make such a bigger deal than they should, over the change regarding mask wearing. The traditional message had always been "not sick, no need for mask".

The world had just not realized that the asymptomatic monster was such a huge deal. We learned and we changed. So to be so determined to go back and blame the CDC is a real shame to me.

The old expression of "building the plane" when it is already down the runway, applies here. We are learning sooo much more.

It was only a few weeks ago we were getting all the news about the bradykinin storm.... totally different pathology than had been interpreted before. Who even remembers ...now???? I keep wondering if the more we learn will actually invalidate certain vaccines. I hope not...but nothing will surprise me!

Is a Bradykinin Storm Brewing in COVID-19?

I still feel as if we are waiting for, but actually living through a hurricane, a hurricane that keeps coming back around with more damage.

i agree with you to a point-- those early messages, right or wrong had a huge impact--
i think those messages should have been prefaced with "this is a brand new virus-- we really are learning new things about it every day-- right now we dont recommend you need to wear a mask, but that could change as we get new information"

i especially blame the surgeon general who actually said masks were ineffective

 

[Warwick1991]

I too got 2 sprays from my doctor (one is a new antihistamine that works in the sinuses - it’s the BOMB) and the other is a steroid (Flonase - it’s OTC). Now all my morning and late evening coughing are gone! I’m actually in better respiratory health than before COVID - I wish I’d known there was something that could fix the cough, earlier.

It’s the antihistamine one that seems to be making the big difference.

Also - we got neoprene masks, so no fibers and for our purposes, that’s fine. I also have some polyester ones that have a filter pocket (but nothing to shed right next to my nose).

As a long time asthma and allergy patient - if I may ask - what is the name of the new antihistamine that worked so well? I have been coughing for 6 weeks, with a negative Covid-19 test, and my doctor attributes the situation to asthma and allergies. I use Advair, 2 nasal sprays - azelastine and Nasonex, Singulair, Allegra, and recently completed a course of prednisone.

 

[Lilibet]

i agree with you to a point-- those early messages, right or wrong had a huge impact--
i think those messages should have been prefaced with "this is a brand new virus-- we really are learning new things about it every day-- right now we dont recommend you need to wear a mask, but that could change as we get new information"

i especially blame the surgeon general who actually said masks were ineffective

IMO The surgeon general was part of the problem, but when the leaders of government, whether federal or state, but especially federal, do not courageously promote and model safe behavior as information becomes available, the buck stops with them, whether they accept that responsibility or not. Words are important, but actions speak louder than words.
JMO MOO

 

[mickey2942]

As a long time asthma and allergy patient - if I may ask - what is the name of the new antihistamine that worked so well? I have been coughing for 6 weeks, with a negative Covid-19 test, and my doctor attributes the situation to asthma and allergies. I use Advair, 2 nasal sprays - azelastine and Nasonex, Singulair, Allegra, and recently completed a course of prednisone.

I have Mometasone Furoate, and Ipratropium Bromide. I am not sure that they are making much of a difference. I feel like I have a sinus infection, and sore throat. Maybe it is the smoke in the air, wearing a mask, I don't know. I may try a neoprene mask.

 

[MimosaMornings]

As a long time asthma and allergy patient - if I may ask - what is the name of the new antihistamine that worked so well? I have been coughing for 6 weeks, with a negative Covid-19 test, and my doctor attributes the situation to asthma and allergies. I use Advair, 2 nasal sprays - azelastine and Nasonex, Singulair, Allegra, and recently completed a course of prednisone.

Have you had a recent skin prick test? Periodically I have to do a round of booster shots.

 

[ilovewings]

IMO The surgeon general was part of the problem, but when the leaders of government, whether federal or state, but especially federal, do not courageously promote and model safe behavior as information becomes available, the buck stops with them, whether they accept that responsibility or not. Words are important, but actions speak louder than words.
JMO MOO

i could not agree more but cant say more

 

[tresir2012]

If you have had Covid and got over it, like some of these students, for example, does that mean you don't need to wear a mask anymore? Once we get the vaccine, can we forego the mask also?

 

[HongKongPhooey]

If you have had Covid and got over it, like some of these students, for example, does that mean you don't need to wear a mask anymore? Once we get the vaccine, can we forego the mask also?

Too much is still unknown for my liking. I take full precautions. I'm so averse to getting it again, I probably am a lot more cautious than many others.

 

[tresir2012]

Too much is still unknown for my liking. I take full precautions. I'm so averse to getting it again, I probably am a lot more cautious than many others.

Did you have it confirmed it was Covid? I can't remember. Will you get the vaccine anyway?

 

[Lilibet]

This chilling graphic personalizes what 200,000 Covid-19 deaths would look like if the deaths had started in your neighborhood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...s-deaths-neighborhood/?itid=hp-top-table-main

 

[mickey2942]

Too much is still unknown for my liking. I take full precautions. I'm so averse to getting it again, I probably am a lot more cautious than many others.

That is true. But doctors are not even prescribing or suggesting known medications that help regular flu symptoms. For example, some people are getting nauseous or diarrhea, and they have tested positive for Covid-19. So, why aren't their doctors prescribing medications to help with those symptoms?

My Great Grandmother was full of "home remedies" for everything. BRAT diet, Mentholatum and hot towels, elderberry syrup. At least it helped you feel better. Now, you say "Covid", and people just leave you alone, they "say" "Nothing helps". Okay, fine, so just leave people to curl up on the bathroom floor?

 

[ilovewings]

Too much is still unknown for my liking. I take full precautions. I'm so averse to getting it again, I probably am a lot more cautious than many others.

You can't be cautious enough-- there is so much we dont know and new info
keeps coming at us

 

[24Roses]

Iowa numbers today: As of 10:00-11:00 a.m. today, we had 992 new confirmed cases for a total of 85,425 confirmed cases of which 65,440 had recovered (+2,846). 8 more had been reported to have passed away for a total of 1,311. Sept. 26: 992 new cases, 8 additional deaths
Iowa COVID-19 Information

 

[tresir2012]

Major holidays coming up next week in PRC and soon in Canada -

So many major holidays taking place around the world this month and next. In the PRC, October 1st is Mid-Autumn Festival (Moon Festival) which is like our Thanksgiving. Last year, 105 million people traveled during Moon Festival to be with their families, often by train. This year the three-day Moon Festival coincides with the PRC's national holiday with October 1-7 being a national holiday to celebrate the founding of the PRC on October 1, 1949, so people have a full week off work, so travel will be incredible, for both family reunions and tourism.

We usually drive to Ann Arbor, Michigan for Moon Festival dinner, but this year we ordered our Moon Cakes online from San Francisco, and they are ready for moon-gazing with family on Zoom on the night of the full moon on October 1st.

Meanwhile, in Canada -

Canadian government rolls out the welcome mat for expats who will be travelling to Canada to celebrate the upcoming holidays with family, including Yom Kippur this week and Canadian Thanksgiving coming up in October – while reminding people of the quarantine rule for two weeks.


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And CDC recommends that we avoid nonessential travel to Canada as it is a Level 3 Alert country right now with high COVID-19 risk.

COVID-19 in Canada - Warning - Level 3, Avoid Nonessential Travel - Travel Health Notices | Travelers' Health | CDC

CDC Warning – Level 3 -- COVID-19 risk in Canada is high

CDC recommends travelers avoid all nonessential international travel to Canada. Travelers at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19 should consider postponing all travel, including essential travel, to Canada.

Warning - Level 3, Avoid Nonessential Travel

Alert - Level 2, Practice Enhanced Precautions

Watch - Level 1, Practice Usual Precautions

Will Canadians be travelling to Florida to their winter homes? Maybe that is why Florida have opened up.

 

[Trino]

England struggles to control new CV upswing as Londoners party in the streets just after curfew begins:

Moment 'impromptu party' kicks off at Oxford Circus after 10pm curfew

...while ⅔rds of Brits think new restrictions don't go far enough:

Exclusive poll: Two-thirds of Britons think coronavirus restrictions do not go far enough

(I suspect that this is really divided by age...)

Sweden had its most active week so far in terms of CoVid cases, reasons aren't completely clear:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/sweden-coronavirus-debate-lockdown-new-cases/

This new upswing is making some rethink what they wrote about Sweden just two weeks ago - and now Sweden is contemplating governmental measures (restrictions) to combat this new rise - apparently the highest weekly figures since the pandemic came to Sweden.

Excess death figures from the U.S. show that we passed the 200,000 death mark earlier than thought:

The True Coronavirus Toll in the U.S. Has Already Surpassed 200,000

and North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Utah, Iowa, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Montana and Idaho continue to lead the list of states with rising cases (7 day rolling averages), while a few states (Texas, Colorado, Arizona, others) are responding to small increases in cases. Hospital capacity may be stretched in the first list, there are no issues with hospital care inn the second list.

North Dakota and Missouri saw the greatest increase in deaths (7 day average).

Covid in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count

And this is what we're dealing with...

In Joplin, Missouri, a mask ordinance was allowed to expire in mid-August as virus fatigue grew. Since then, the number of positive cases there and in surrounding Jasper County — a deeply conservative county - has risen about 80%.

At the home of the University of Oklahoma, the Norman City Council voted 5-3 this week to require that masks be worn indoors at house parties if more than 25 people are present. The ordinance passed over objections from members of the public.

“You can make any law that you want to. You come into my house telling me that I got to wear this stupid thing and you’re going to have a firefight on your hands,” said Josh Danforth, holding a mask, who identified himself as an Iraq war veteran.

Virus cases rise in US heartland, home to anti-mask feelings