Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #82

[Simply Southern]

LOL. I had to take steroids for the short term for a slipped disc in my neck about a year ago. A lot of the studies are about long-term effects if a person takes these medications long term.

I've taken a 5 day dose, four times in my life. The only side effect I had was a clean house.

 

[Kikixxxx]

Unfortunately your information is from May 2020. We continue to learn as we move farther into the pandemic. The following information was updated today. It reports that deaths from Covid seem to be substantially higher, perhaps 10x higher than the flu.

COVID-19: There have been approximately 1,044,882 deaths reported worldwide. In the U.S, 210,196, people have died of COVID-19 between January 2020 and October 6, 2020.*

Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.

The COVID-19 situation is changing rapidly. Since this disease is caused by a new virus, the vast majority of people do not yet have immunity to it, and a vaccine may be many months away. Doctors and scientists are working to estimate the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 vs. the Flu

no it isn't, that article has yesterdays date on it...
Coronavirus: WHO estimates 10% of global population infected with COVID-19 | DW | 05.10.2020

5th october 2020. that was yesterday

heres a forbes article stating the same thing from yesterday also;

WHO Estimates Coronavirus Infected 10% Of World’s Population

 

[LaborDayRN]

no it isn't, that article has yesterdays date on it...
Coronavirus: WHO estimates 10% of global population infected with COVID-19 | DW | 05.10.2020

5th october 2020. that was yesterday

heres a forbes article stating the same thing from yesterday also;

WHO Estimates Coronavirus Infected 10% Of World’s Population

Oops! Sorry. Reading it as a US date.
I guess our facts will have to stand in disagreement.
ETA: I edited my original post.

 

[tresir2012]

Unfortunately your information is from May 2020. We continue to learn as we move farther into the pandemic. The following information was updated today. It reports that deaths from Covid seem to be substantially higher, perhaps 10x higher than the flu.

COVID-19: There have been approximately 1,044,882 deaths reported worldwide. In the U.S, 210,196, people have died of COVID-19 between January 2020 and October 6, 2020.*

Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.

The COVID-19 situation is changing rapidly. Since this disease is caused by a new virus, the vast majority of people do not yet have immunity to it, and a vaccine may be many months away. Doctors and scientists are working to estimate the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 vs. the Flu

5.10.20 is the date written the UK way ie 5th Oct . If you scroll further down you will see dates like 29.09.20 which is clearly 29th Sept.

 

[24Roses]

Iowa news today: As of 10-11:00 a.m., we had 522 new confirmed cases for a total of 93,423 confirmed cases of which 72,173 had recovered (+375). 11 more were reported to have passed for a total of 1,399.
Oct. 6: Iowa reports 522 new cases, 11 more deaths, 375 more recoveries
Iowa COVID-19 Information
Many U of I students fear reopening bars will lead to spike in virus
Majority of Des Moines students will return to class
Officials provide new details on staffer who died of COVID-19

 

[Sillybilly]

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Thread is open again.

 

[LadyL]

Nearly a third of hospitalized Covid-19 patients experienced some type of altered mental function — ranging from confusion to delirium to unresponsiveness — in the largest study to date of neurological symptoms among coronavirus patients in an American hospital system.

And patients with altered mental function had significantly worse medical outcomes, according to the study, published on Monday in Annals of Clinical and Translational Neurology. The study looked at the records of the first 509 coronavirus patients hospitalized, from March 5 to April 6, at 10 hospitals in the Northwestern Medicine health system in the Chicago area.

Nearly One-Third of Covid-19 Patients in Study Had Altered Mental State

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I've bought KN95s three times now from Menards. They can be sanitized in a low temp oven, an Instant Pot, or a slow cooker! Just wish they weren't so pricey. I live in South Carolina and can never take advantage of the in-store rebate they offer for online orders.

Got the link months ago from someone here on WS.

ETA: Can't seem to link it myself, but menards.com is easy enough to find.

ETA2: One thing I like about Menard's KN95s is they don't have a bunch of stuff printed on the mask. Each mask is very simply and discreetly embossed with a small "KN95" - that's it.

Since I feel like we never know if we are getting a good batch, I have these on hand in the car only for if I forget my 3 layer cloth mask (2 cotton, 1 silk) with a filter,nose-wire, and adjustable elastic. With the double filter I use, I feel more protected than if I was wondering all day if this was a “bad batch” that the government didn’t catch. If I felt I could truly trust those masks, I would invest in the cost for a new one each day at work.

 

[SouthAussie]

The doctors and employees at Walter Reed Hospital are funded by the U.S. Government. Trump's visit was at no cost. How does that compare should common U.S. citizens be hospitalized for COVID-19? The average cost is $73,300.

Costs for a Hospital Stay for COVID-19 | FAIR Health

Well, the president's hospital stay and treatment is actually not at no-cost. Every single taxpayer will be paying for that hospital stay and the treatments. Both the treatments in the hospital, and the continuing ones at the White House.

But, yes, the average citizen - the ones not on govt support - will be liable for their own medical treatments, and hopefully many of those citizens have some financial help from the medical insurance that they also pay for.

IMO

 

[10ofRods]

no it isn't, that article has yesterdays date on it...
Coronavirus: WHO estimates 10% of global population infected with COVID-19 | DW | 05.10.2020

5th october 2020. that was yesterday

heres a forbes article stating the same thing from yesterday also;

WHO Estimates Coronavirus Infected 10% Of World’s Population

Um...the first link has the date right in it. May 10, 2020.

Forbes has no primary researchers - they're using the other article as a source. The article merely says "WHO's latest numbers."

Which are from May. There are no newer numbers - unless someone can find a citation. WHO doesn't publish numbers very often and has, IMO, lost the thread a bit in the last few months. Doesn't help that their funding is cut.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

The Food and Drug Administration released updated, stricter guidelines on Tuesday for coronavirus vaccine developers — a step that was blocked for two weeks by top White House officials. The guidelines make it highly unlikely that a vaccine could be authorized by Election Day.

The move, which was cleared by the Office of Management and Budget, appeared to be an abrupt reversal a day after The New York Times reported that White House officials, including Mark Meadows, the chief of staff, were blocking the guidelines.

The new guidelines recommend gathering extra data about the safety of vaccines in the final stage of clinical trials, a step that would take more time.

The F.D.A. releases stricter guidelines for vaccine developers after a holdup at the White House.

 

[Kikixxxx]

Um...the first link has the date right in it. May 10, 2020.

Forbes has no primary researchers - they're using the other article as a source. The article merely says "WHO's latest numbers."

Which are from May. There are no newer numbers - unless someone can find a citation. WHO doesn't publish numbers very often and has, IMO, lost the thread a bit in the last few months. Doesn't help that their funding is cut.

Um...Your wrong. It’s from 5th October 2020.

here is a list of other articles also from the 5th October 2020

WHO: 10% of world's people may have been infected with virus

WHO: 10% of world's people may have been infected with virus

WHO: 10% of world's people may have been infected with virus

 

[CSIDreamer]

Um...the first link has the date right in it. May 10, 2020.

Forbes has no primary researchers - they're using the other article as a source. The article merely says "WHO's latest numbers."

Which are from May. There are no newer numbers - unless someone can find a citation. WHO doesn't publish numbers very often and has, IMO, lost the thread a bit in the last few months. Doesn't help that their funding is cut.

If you'll read for context and look at the numbers you can easily confirm it is Oct. 5.

 

[SouthAussie]

Do you mean since he revealed his diagnosis? Because before that he’s repeatedly been seen without a mask around others.

And he walked into the whitehouse without his mask.

There is zero equivalency to walking into a mansion FILLED with staff and associates and driving in a car alone.

But more than that it’s the message he’s sending.

Surely you notice how hard it is historically to convince people to take measures to ensure their own safety, the safety of their children and of others. It’s why, as I have stated previously, we have public health campaigns and laws to prevent certain things. Like shooting guns in the air. Driving drunk. Smoking around others. Etc.

We see the same thing here. It is very hard to get people, even reasonable people who want to do the right thing, to wear masks when necessary and to wear them properly. It’s difficult.

And yet not only do we have multiple leaders and role models in this nation failing to model correct behavior, they’re actually MOCKING it.

The president lost a great opportunity to visually demonstrate the necessity to take this seriously and who to protect others.

It is hard enough to get the public to do the right thing even without partisan politics muddying the waters.

You know I do agree with the thought that we shouldn’t walk through life shuddering in fear. Everyone has the right to take risks that they feel are reasonable in order to be able to fully live, to enjoy life, explore, learn, protect. So people ride dirt bikes. They ride motorcycles. They dive. Rock climb. Surf. They join the military. The join Doctors Without Borders. They fly in rockets. They conduct dangerous experiments. And on and on.

Not wearing a mask while not socially distancing is none of that.

I take risks that my family doesn’t appreciate. Hiking in the canyon at dusk in areas where mountain lions and coyotes live, for example. That’s my right to make that decision.

But I don’t do it while wearing a meat suit and I don’t do it while wearing a meat suit and taking whatever I have attracted into your house.

That’s the difference.

Too many can’t follow basic safety rules. He is sick and should model that a mask is crucial. Not defiantly take it off while walking into a building packed with people.

We have been seeing on our morning TV today, a video chat with a White House aide who quit her job and is speaking out about the (covid) reasons why. She was homeland security adviser to the vice president, and was on the covid task force.

Vice President Pence personally thanked me over lunch one day for referring Troye to serve on his team, saying she was doing an incredible job.
Soon after Troye released the video, Dr. Anthony Fauci noted in an interview with MSNBC's Chris Hayes that she was a "good person" and an important part of the task force.
In her farewell note to colleagues ..... It was a thank you to the people who've been charged with the thankless (and often impossible) task of combating a deadly threat.

Why we should listen to Olivia Troye

 

[Simply Southern]

Well, the president's hospital stay and treatment is actually not at no-cost. Every single taxpayer will be paying for that hospital stay and the treatments. Both the treatments in the hospital, and the continuing ones at the White House.

But, yes, the average citizen - the ones not on govt support - will be liable for their own medical treatments, and hopefully many of those citizens have some financial help from the medical insurance that they also pay for.

I did notice the 73k was a private pay charge. Coming from HC management no one every pays the PP cost, it's always negotiated down.

The Insurance allowable was 38k. Most health plans have a stop loss, meaning after a certain dollar amount it's covered at 100%. My stop loss is 1k, but I received a letter from my insurance early on all Covid related care would be covered at 100%.

The CARES Act allowed a pool of funds for the uninsured and sent additional funds to hospitals to support cost for Covid and offset the lack of revenue from routine hospital procedures.

Most can qualify for Medicaid and with hospitalization, Medicaid will retroactively cover the cost. Most US hospitals have teams that assist folks with applying for Medicaid while in patient.

 

[sds71]

@HallieJackson
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Stephen Miller has tested positive for COVID, per senior administration official. Adds Miller has been working remotely for last 5 days, testing negative every day through yesterday, and is in quarantine after a positive test today.

 

[SouthAussie]

Our federal govt budget was handed down last night. Massive deficits for a couple of decades to come, due to covid and the support-and-rebuild measures that are going to be undertaken.
Seems that we are also going to assist our nearby neighbours. This is obviously for them, but also for us, to try to get this whole region recovering from this deadly virus.


The Federal Government has effectively increased Australia's foreign aid program with a one-off supplementary funding package to help Pacific countries recover from the COVID-19 pandemic.
..... the Government announced a $305 million COVID-19 response package for the Pacific and Timor-Leste.

Australia's aid program increased to help Pacific neighbours fight COVID-19

 

[sds71]

@LMartinezABC
@ABC
https://twitter.com/LMartinezABC/with_replies
confirms a military aide responsible for ...
tested positive for COVID over the weekend and *traveled with the president last Thursday to New Jersey

 

[Reasonable & Just]

@HallieJackson
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Stephen Miller has tested positive for COVID, per senior administration official. Adds Miller has been working remotely for last 5 days, testing negative every day through yesterday, and is in quarantine after a positive test today.

I do wonder about the epidemiology of this. His wife (and the president's valet) got it a while back. He apparently did not. I always wondered how everyone else stayed so lucky, but I assumed all the testing helps. Now everyone else is taking a turn. Is this a more infectious strain? The hygiene of this social/work circle hasn't gotten that much worse since March, has it?

Could it just have been a delayed inevitability, like everyone reached a critical load around the same time?

 

[CSIDreamer]

@LMartinezABC
@ABC
confirms a military aide responsible for ...
tested positive for COVID over the weekend and *traveled with the president last Thursday to New Jersey

What time was this posted? I literally can't find it.