Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #82

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  • #801
Covid MP 'went to church while showing symptoms'

Police Scotland are not thought to be considering any action since self-isolation is guidance rather than a legal requirement in Scotland.

Looks like she is not going to be prosecuted which is beyond ridiculous IMO.

We might want to keep an eye on this to see if Scotland strengthens their guidance and moves toward more regulation. It's a common pattern, that when the link between a person's disregard for public safety results in public harm, then regulations tighten.
 
  • #802
Dr. Campbell in this morning's video is discussing the "Great Barrington Declaration" (that so many conditions are higher due to COVID... aka the policies and lack of health measures for other diseases are creating more problems and deaths than what is going on with COVID)

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  • #803
No it is from Geneva 2 days ago.

right...sorry. I still use date/month/year when writimg dates...but always spell out the month..so still get caught on the structure sometimes.
 
  • #804
Oh. Not quite as bad as travelling to London on a long train journey while awaiting tests results because you have symptoms, then attending parliament/meetings, then getting a positive result and deciding to travel all the way home again by train. Not just political but also completely relevant.

With all the blatant no-masking going on.... this no-mask-hair-wash just became the, you know, rallying cry---> "SEE all sides are bad".
 
  • #805
Trump planning ‘event’ in Pittsburgh: report

Reporters closely following Trump’s campaign said he is looking to host an event in Pittsburgh early next week.

Early reactions to the plan have been critical, with Pittsburgh Mayor tweeting that he believed people with COVID-19 had to quaratine for 14 days.

Allegheny County Executive Rich Fitzgerald replied with a “Thanks but no thanks.”
 
  • #806
Perhaps it is not understood that trying to evoke (some) change does not mean unhappiness. Critique does not mean unhappy. Maybe unhappiness means different things to you and to me.

I would say that, in general, we are super happy that there is an organisation that tries to help the under-developed nations. Has already helped vaccinate so many against so much. And will be leading the almost-worldwide effort to covid-vaccinate the under-developed countries.

And to be involved with that organisation can only help steer things in the way in which we want them to be.
Walking away from them does nothing to help.

As far as I am aware, there is only one 'country' that is unhappy with WHO. And it is not Australia nor Australians.

IMO

Australia and WHO have worked together closely for nearly 70 years. Australia is an active WHO Member State contributing to regional and global health through its leadership on a range of priority health issues, collaborating with partners and exchanging expertise to promote best practices and supporting WHO to be a strong and effective organization. Australia is currently home to 46 WHO collaborating centres that work directly with the Organization on a range of technical priorities.
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exactly. Reform is not dissatisfaction. It is being progressive to meet the demands.
 
  • #807
Cutting-Edge COVID-19 Care For Trump, Not Available For Regular Folks

Fewer than ten people have received this intervention outside of clinical trials, Alexandra Bowie, a spokesperson for Regeneron wrote to NPR in an email. "The only way to access the drug at this point is through a Compassionate Use request or clinical trial participation," she adds, and compassionate use requests are only approved in rare and exceptional circumstances.

Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing
"As far as we know, the President is the only person in the world to have received this combination of treatments." NYT also estimates it costs ~ $1.5 million for the Regeneron antibody cocktail."
 
  • #808
Pentagon risk grows as Marine Corps' No. 2 officer tests positive for coronavirus

The Marine Corps said its No. 2 officer, General Gary Thomas, had tested positive for COVID-19, becoming the second senior military official to do so this week, another sign of the danger to top brass who met both men at the Pentagon.

Thomas, the Marine Corps' assistant commandant, is suffering mild symptoms and is self-quarantining at home.

Nearly all the Joint Chiefs of Staff, including its chairman, Army General Mark Milley, are in quarantine after attending top-level meetings last week with Thomas and the Coast Guard's No. 2 official, Admiral Charles Ray, who tested positive on Monday.

The list of top generals quarantining reads like a "Who's Who's" of the U.S. military, including General Paul Nakasone, head of the National Security Agency and U.S. Cyber Command, as well as the chiefs of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Space Force.


My goodness. While on the one hand, transparency is a good thing, on the other hand, why do the US Joint Chiefs of Staff reveal to the world that they are in quarantine? Isn't this a national security risk?

Of all people, these ones should have had a protocol in place to protect their health. The mind boggles. Surely, at this point in the pandemic, with the information we know now about protecting against the spread of covid, this carelessness at the top is self inflicted harm that puts the nation at risk. Are the American people going to simply brush it off with a sigh and an "oh well"?
 
  • #809
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from 2 days ago.

Dr. Campbell also goes into the most recent IFR of COVID, drills down into the exponential growth now in the UK, and latest projection of worldwide exposure.

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COVID UK screenshot from link


For those that don't have the time to watch, he has a summary below the video. (He does get riled up at the WHO and the debacle/incompetencies - his words - of Public Health England and how they missed about 16,000 cases/48,000 contacts since Sep 24th due to they were using an old version of excel to track and they didn't realize the spreadsheet was full and throwing off cases from the database for many days)

Dr. Yong has also updated his explanation of IFR/CFR and COVID vs. flu, which I found very helpful for understanding. (he's another who has written long term about COVID - Spoiler is that you need to consider the R-naught also, which has been reduced SIGNIFICANTLY due to masks, social distancing and hygiene for current Rt, not just the IFR)
Clarifying the True Fatality Rate of Covid-19: Same as the Flu?

I noticed in a link within your link that the next World Health Assembly is coming up soon. (9th-14th November)
And that WHO just had an executive board special session to prepare for that ... including WHO's activites regarding the pandemic since Jan 2020, an update on the assembly's covid response, and an update on pandemic preparedness/response/emergency program.

Is the US participating in this, I wonder. I don't think the US has withdrawn completely yet, has it?
It just seems so important, to me, to stay on top of this kind of information and involvement.

Executive Board: Special session on the COVID-19 response
Seventy-third World Health Assembly
 
  • #810
My goodness. While on the one hand, transparency is a good thing, on the other hand, why do the US Joint Chiefs of Staff reveal to the world that they are in quarantine? Isn't this a national security risk?

Of all people, these ones should have had a protocol in place to protect their health. The mind boggles. Surely, at this point in the pandemic, with the information we know now about protecting against the spread of covid, this carelessness at the top is self inflicted harm that puts the nation at risk. Are the American people going to simply brush it off with a sigh and an "oh well"?

That is the quandry. So many at high levels are under the "at the pleasure of the president" and are stifled?
 
  • #811
So, another top medical expert is sidelined .. and has quit. Hopefully this isn't going to hurt the management of a vaccine rollout.


Bright is an immunologist who formerly headed the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, a department of health and human services (HHS) agency that works to prepare the nation for such threats as a pandemic or a bioterrorism attack. That agency is now playing a central role in the campaign to deliver a coronavirus vaccine.

Lawyers for Bright say he was sidelined at the National Institute of Health, where he had been transferred this spring after being ousted as head of a biodefense agency, adding that the NIH had ignored a national coronavirus testing strategy that Bright developed ....

Top US immunologist quits health role over Covid response

Thanks for posting this article. I read it earlier--- Sigh- and the beat goes on
 
  • #812
So, another top medical expert is sidelined .. and has quit. Hopefully this isn't going to hurt the management of a vaccine rollout.


Bright is an immunologist who formerly headed the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, a department of health and human services (HHS) agency that works to prepare the nation for such threats as a pandemic or a bioterrorism attack. That agency is now playing a central role in the campaign to deliver a coronavirus vaccine.

Lawyers for Bright say he was sidelined at the National Institute of Health, where he had been transferred this spring after being ousted as head of a biodefense agency, adding that the NIH had ignored a national coronavirus testing strategy that Bright developed ....

Top US immunologist quits health role over Covid response

Who was the other top medical expert who was sidelined that you mention?
 
  • #813
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Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing
"As far as we know, the President is the only person in the world to have received this combination of treatments." NYT also estimates it costs ~ $1.5 million for the Regeneron antibody cocktail."

That takes the high prices of big pharma into the stratosphere. :eek:

Is this the drug that the president is going to make free for everyone?


ETA: Yes, it is. I wonder how that's going to happen.

President Trump said he would try to make the drug free to all Americans
The president offered no details on how he planned to make Regeneron's antibody cocktail free and there is no data to suggest that the drug is a cure.
Trump admits that a vaccine won't be available until after the election | Daily Mail Online
 
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  • #814
Dr. Campbell in this morning's video is discussing the "Great Barrington Declaration" (that so many conditions are higher due to COVID... aka the policies and lack of health measures for other diseases are creating more problems and deaths than what is going on with COVID)

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That could be considered minimizing Covid though IMO.
 
  • #815
That takes the high prices of big pharma into the stratosphere. :eek:

I can't even comprehend that price for one dose of a drug (it is for one dose right?)
 
  • #816
I do think interesting that the antibody cocktail from Regeneron is from stem cell research.

I haven't seen the quantities of antibodes in that dose vs. convalescent plasma doses yet by the media, has anyone else?

Was the cocktail that Trump received only through only mice stem cells, or human-induced stem cells involved in the replications?
 
  • #817
I do think interesting that the antibody cocktail from Regeneron is from stem cell research.
Was the cocktail that Trump received only through only mice stem cells, or human-induced stem cells involved in the replications?

What is the antibody cocktail Trump received?

One antibody comes from a human who had recovered from a SARS-CoV-2 infection; a B cell that makes the antibody was harvested from the person’s blood and the genes for the immune protein isolated and copied.
The other antibody is from a mouse, which was engineered to have a human immune system, that had the spike protein injected into it.

Update: Here’s what is known about Trump’s COVID-19 treatment | Science | AAAS
 
  • #818
I can't even comprehend that price for one dose of a drug (it is for one dose right?)

As far as I know, he had one 8g dose (infusion) at the White House. Then went on to have remdesivir and dexamethasone after that.
 
  • #819
What is the antibody cocktail Trump received?

One antibody comes from a human who had recovered from a SARS-CoV-2 infection; a B cell that makes the antibody was harvested from the person’s blood and the genes for the immune protein isolated and copied.
The other antibody is from a mouse, which was engineered to have a human immune system, that had the spike protein injected into it.

Update: Here’s what is known about Trump’s COVID-19 treatment | Science | AAAS

Thank you for taking the time to research as I tried and didn't find. I did find that Regeneron uses stem cells, which I had thought...well.. moving on.

I still am very interested if he will have increased IgM levels which should have happened by now. But the doctor did NOT find or I would have thought that would have been exclaimed for the world to see MOO (Inate immunity cells for long term)

Does the dosage of the IgG antibodies long term decrease the expected increased in IgM levels? Or what does it do to the *inate* response for long term with such IgG infusions? This is definately new to the world, and I'm sure scientists really would want to know his blood work on such.

I'm trying to find such, but nothing I am seeing on google scholar now as it's so new to the world.
 
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  • #820
Quest Diagnostic order page. You can see the 2 types of Covid tests and prices.

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