Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #84

[Lilibet]

Yes. Separate bathroom. Bedroom on a separate level. I am DAR, tracing ancestry back to mountain people who always offered hospitality. Although I was not raised in that environment, hospitality was expected from my family, and as a child, I recall such from my parents, as well as other relatives.

@Trino OT— I admire your hospitality...but I suggest you google or better yet consult an attorney regarding laws in your state that might apply to this situation to make sure you have a legal right to ask him to leave after six months. Some states may give your relative rights that may not be to your advantage if he chose to assert them. Also, it might be wise to have a written, signed contract covering things like Covid sanitation, not bringing home guests, financial responsibilities if any, your responsibilities (feeding him?), date he will leave, etc. It sounds inhospitable I know, but having things in writing is a protection for both of you. It can go south easily. Wishing you well.

 

[ilovewings]

Ohhhh.... to think what could have been. The underserved and those with preexisting conditions are living in such fear right now.

AND the attached article does show more of what to come, when people experience the cost of letting the virus go unmanaged. As seen in the article, even doctors who get covid are having such trouble.

Maybe, just maybe when people quit trying to defend non-mask wearing, and no contact tracing.... maybe the pocket book will wake up the people who defend irrational behavior of leaders.

SWFL doctor's family raises awareness about his serious cases of COVID-19

Admittedly I am confused-- so Medicare pays for so many days for critical care? what about supplemental insurance and why would a patient need to know what patient actually gave him the virus? that is outrageous.

 

[musicaljoke]

Here's some interesting Sunday reading for you from the Gov't of Canada website, which describes the trilateral plan for animal and influenza pandemic. It details the existing infrastructures in Canada, USA and Mexico, the mission, and plan for a coordinated effort to contain a pandemic. This coordinated approach was prepared in response to lessons learned during the H1N1 2009 pandemic.


North American Leaders announce revised North American Plan for Animal and Pandemic Influenza (NAPAPI) - Canada.ca

North American Plan For Animal and Pandemic Influenza

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Admittedly I am confused-- so Medicare pays for so many days for critical care? what about supplemental insurance and why would a patient need to know what patient actually gave him the virus? that is outrageous.

I'll take a shot at answering one part. He's trying to get workman's compensation insurance to pay after Medicare ditched him. To *blame* it on his workplace for that insurance to cover it, he needs to prove he got it from the workplace.

That's a very high bar to prove and he's stating it also has to be proven he got it from a *specific* patient it sounds like.

MOO, others may have other ideas.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Dr. Campbell covering zinc in this video. Discusses how zinc (and vitamin D) have no incentive for big pharma to invest in trials - but he's still focusing on and discussing papers on such. (NOTE: He's long been focusing on keeping your levels up for both, especially during this pandemic)

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[weepingangel]

That was my take on it as well
(I’m Not familiar with Medicare but workman’s comp has been an issue For frontline workers all along )

I'll take a shot at answering one part. He's trying to get workman's compensation insurance to pay after Medicare ditched him. To *blame* it on his workplace for that insurance to cover it, he needs to prove he got it from the workplace.

That's a very high bar to prove and he's stating it also has to be proven he got it from a *specific* patient is sounds like.

MOO, others may have other ideas.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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[ilovewings]

I'll take a shot at answering one part. He's trying to get workman's compensation insurance to pay after Medicare ditched him. To *blame* it on his workplace for that insurance to cover it, he needs to prove he got it from the workplace.

That's a very high bar to prove and he's stating it also has to be proven he got it from a *specific* patient it sounds like.

MOO, others may have other ideas.

Thanks for that clarification. He will never be able to prove what patient actually gave it to him ( a ridiculous standard and they know it!!!)

 

[ilovewings]

@Trino OT— I admire your hospitality...but I suggest you google or better yet consult an attorney regarding laws in your state that might apply to this situation to make sure you have a legal right to ask him to leave after six months. Some states may give your relative rights that may not be to your advantage if he chose to assert them. Also, it might be wise to have a written, signed contract covering things like Covid sanitation, not bringing home guests, financial responsibilities if any, your responsibilities (feeding him?), date he will leave, etc. It sounds inhospitable I know, but having things in writing is a protection for both of you. It can go south easily. Wishing you well.

what great advice!!!!

 

[tresir2012]

Here's some interesting Sunday reading for you from the Gov't of Canada website, which describes the trilateral plan for animal and influenza pandemic. It details the existing infrastructures in Canada, USA and Mexico, the mission, and plan for a coordinated effort to contain a pandemic. This coordinated approach was prepared in response to lessons learned during the H1N1 2009 pandemic.


North American Leaders announce revised North American Plan for Animal and Pandemic Influenza (NAPAPI) - Canada.ca

North American Plan For Animal and Pandemic Influenza

I think I can see why this would not work in 2020.

"Although influenza will not physically damage critical infrastructure, systems may be weakened by the absence of essential personnel in the workplace or the diversion of resources. The NAPAPI, therefore, extends beyond the health and medical sectors to include provisions related to critical infrastructure and the cross border movement of goods and services.

In the context of movement of goods and services across our borders, the Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 experience has shown the dramatic effect that non-science based decisions can have on international trade. When the Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus appeared to have originated in animals some countries implemented various bans on swine and pork products, contrary to the statements by relevant international organizations – OIE, WHO and FAO.

The NAPAPI provides a framework for:

• The basic structure and mechanisms for trilateral emergency coordination and communication;
• Collaboration on the detection, prevention, control, and possible elimination of potentially zoonotic strains of animal influenza;
• Collaboration on border management based on the best scientific evidence and information and which avoids unnecessary interference with travel and trade, consistent with the IHR (2005); and
• Collaboration on a North American approach to keeping critical infrastructure and essential systems functioning properly in the event of an influenza pandemic.

The NAPAPI recognizes and intends to build upon the core principles of key international frameworks, agreements, and organizations dealing with animal and pandemic influenza issues.

The WHO developed international guidance on pandemic preparedness and response, including Pandemic Influenza Preparedness and Response: A WHO Guidance Documentwith a series of six pandemic phases, released just before Pandemic (H1N1) 2009.Footnote3These WHO efforts were intended to improve international collaboration, coordination, transparency and management of risk in responding to pandemic influenza threats. The WHO's international guidance formed much of the basis for the three countries' planning for North American pandemic preparedness and response. This guidance is meant to be revised based on the findings of the IHR Review Committee and the lessons learned from the Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 response."

 

[dixiegirl1035]

An excellent read MOO on management protocol/critical care treatment cascade that Dr. Campbell reviewed in his video. Here is the original link to such for those that interested. It's 30 pages of treatment progressions for different stages and is eye opening how far we have come, and how so much else is behind the scenes. Just one snapshot from one University Hospital at Virginia Medical School - I'm bookmarking! Here is just one screenshot as there are lots of visuals, and expectedly points out that the virus effects to the immune dysregulation is what is the killer... and really escalates at day 14-28.



https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_pub...cine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

ETA: Affects -> effects!

 

[SoCalDavidS]

There are 8 million confirmed U.S. cases of coronavirus, and yet the pandemic is politicized.

President Trump largely eschews mask wearing and falsely claimed during a town hall this week that “85% of the people wearing masks catch” Covid-19 despite becoming infected himself. At the same time, Republican-leaning areas of the U.S. are now experiencing a surge in coronavirus cases.

“To the extent that public health measures have become politicized, it really should be no surprise that we see that the spread of the disease also runs along political lines,” Dr. Steven McDonald, a New York-based emergency medicine physician, said on Yahoo Finance’s The Ticker (video above). “When you have a Republican president telling Republican supporters that mask wearing is not necessary, even after he’s had coronavirus from a maskless event, it’s no surprise that we see surges in Republican areas.”

Data compiled by web developer Dan Goodspeed shows just how badly Republican-leaning areas have been hit in the last four months as compared to Democratic-leaning states:

'No surprise' we're seeing coronavirus surge in Republican areas, ER doctor explains

 

[SoCalDavidS]

 

[tresir2012]

Thanks for that clarification. He will never be able to prove what patient actually gave it to him ( a ridiculous standard and they know it!!!)

Could he just choose a theoretical one? Patient X.

 

[Knitty]

I think I can see why this would not work in 2020.

"Although influenza will not physically damage critical infrastructure, systems may be weakened by the absence of essential personnel in the workplace or the diversion of resources. The NAPAPI, therefore, extends beyond the health and medical sectors to include provisions related to critical infrastructure and the cross border movement of goods and services.

In the context of movement of goods and services across our borders, the Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 experience has shown the dramatic effect that non-science based decisions can have on international trade. When the Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus appeared to have originated in animals some countries implemented various bans on swine and pork products, contrary to the statements by relevant international organizations – OIE, WHO and FAO.

The NAPAPI provides a framework for:

• The basic structure and mechanisms for trilateral emergency coordination and communication;
• Collaboration on the detection, prevention, control, and possible elimination of potentially zoonotic strains of animal influenza;
• Collaboration on border management based on the best scientific evidence and information and which avoids unnecessary interference with travel and trade, consistent with the IHR (2005); and
• Collaboration on a North American approach to keeping critical infrastructure and essential systems functioning properly in the event of an influenza pandemic.

The NAPAPI recognizes and intends to build upon the core principles of key international frameworks, agreements, and organizations dealing with animal and pandemic influenza issues.

The WHO developed international guidance on pandemic preparedness and response, including Pandemic Influenza Preparedness and Response: A WHO Guidance Documentwith a series of six pandemic phases, released just before Pandemic (H1N1) 2009.Footnote3These WHO efforts were intended to improve international collaboration, coordination, transparency and management of risk in responding to pandemic influenza threats. The WHO's international guidance formed much of the basis for the three countries' planning for North American pandemic preparedness and response. This guidance is meant to be revised based on the findings of the IHR Review Committee and the lessons learned from the Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 response."

I don't see anything there that explains why that would not work in 2020. Would you please explain what I'm missing?

 

[GRT]

Has anyone been working from home during Covid? I am looking at tax deductions for working from home, seems complicated to me. Maybe they will simplify it for next year, like a "Standard home office" deduction. That includes internet, cell phone, peripherals. Not just square feet for office.

It depends on how you're paid. If you're self-employed, you can take a deduction for a home office, but it's considered to be an "audit flag," although perhaps less of a risk now due to covid.

If you are an employee of a different company, you cannot take the office deduction.

If you qualify for the deduction, you can figure out the deduction based on the square footage of the office as a percentage of the square footage of the entire home. You can do that for heating and cooling costs.

But, if you're self-employed, you can also deduct the cost of the equipment you use to work, such as your PC, printer, internet, etc.

Unfortunately, being self-employed also comes with "self-employment tax," which is double the FICA an employer withholds.

 

[GRT]

Oh dear...more superspreaders this weekend, and this time it appears they happened in all 50 states. I do see masks, but I also see shoulder-to-shoulder standing.

When will people learn?

 

[303gmf]

Wow, I had no idea health insurance is this expensive. I'm really sorry that the costs are so high.

Going on 12 years without
I call myself a “self-pay”

CEO’s of insurance company’s, private equity healthcare investments and Pharmaceutical giants and our current leadership make it impossible for millions of Americans to afford

 

[mickey2942]

It depends on how you're paid. If you're self-employed, you can take a deduction for a home office, but it's considered to be an "audit flag," although perhaps less of a risk now due to covid.

If you are an employee of a different company, you cannot take the office deduction.

If you qualify for the deduction, you can figure out the deduction based on the square footage of the office as a percentage of the square footage of the entire home. You can do that for heating and cooling costs.

But, if you're self-employed, you can also deduct the cost of the equipment you use to work, such as your PC, printer, internet, etc.

Unfortunately, being self-employed also comes with "self-employment tax," which is double the FICA an employer withholds.

Darn. So, basically I am paying for everything for the "luxury" of working from home. We really didn't have a choice. It seemed like employers just assumed that people would have everything in place to work from home. Or pay for it, themselves. Well, at least I have a job.

 

[tresir2012]

There are 8 million confirmed U.S. cases of coronavirus, and yet the pandemic is politicized.

President Trump largely eschews mask wearing and falsely claimed during a town hall this week that “85% of the people wearing masks catch” Covid-19 despite becoming infected himself. At the same time, Republican-leaning areas of the U.S. are now experiencing a surge in coronavirus cases.

“To the extent that public health measures have become politicized, it really should be no surprise that we see that the spread of the disease also runs along political lines,” Dr. Steven McDonald, a New York-based emergency medicine physician, said on Yahoo Finance’s The Ticker (video above). “When you have a Republican president telling Republican supporters that mask wearing is not necessary, even after he’s had coronavirus from a maskless event, it’s no surprise that we see surges in Republican areas.”

Data compiled by web developer Dan Goodspeed shows just how badly Republican-leaning areas have been hit in the last four months as compared to Democratic-leaning states:

'No surprise' we're seeing coronavirus surge in Republican areas, ER doctor explains

What needs to be looked at is the total deaths. They have fallen weekly over 80% since the end of July even though cases have increased. That shows a successful outcome if deaths decrease, because the cases will eventually come under control with the vaccine.

Also, why just the last 4 months? Look at the cases for the whole period from Mar to Oct (7 months) and I am sure more blue states would be in there (eg.NY, NJ,PE,MI,RI,MA,VT,OR,WA) This is just cherry picking a period of time to suit the writer's agenda IMO.