Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #84

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  • #881
Washington D.C. is currently in Phase 2 of the city's reopening plan, which prohibits gatherings of over 50 people. The city's guidelines also encourage people to wear face coverings both in and outdoors when coming within 6 feet of others.

However, Washington D.C.'s guidelines outline that certain activities, including religious gatherings, are permitted to exceed the capacity limits through an approved local waiver.

It's unclear how the city approves these waivers and whether Feucht's rally this weekend has obtained one.

Thousands expected to gather for religious rally at National Mall this weekend despite D.C. COVID-19 restrictions

I notice that on Twitter, Sean Feucht (who is hosting the event) states that FB is censuring his posts about the event. The reason that FB states for the censure is "part of the Q conspiracy".

Source: Twitter post Oct 22 - Sean Feucht.

While I can't find a media article about this (yet), I see that this is not the first time that social media platforms have censured his posts.

Instagram Reportedly Censors Worship Rally Video from Bethel Music’s Sean Feucht | BCNN1 - Black Christian News Network
 
  • #882
Time for baby shampoo...

Other researchers are turning to an even more low-tech solution: a mixture of soap and salt. Saline rinses can remove bacteria and allergens from the nasal cavity and ease symptoms of allergies, sinus infections and colds. A current clinical trial is designed to look for effects of baby shampoo mixed with a salt solution on the symptoms and possible spreading of SARS-CoV-2 in people who have COVID-19. The soapy solution might be able to wash viruses out of the nose, or pop their protective outer layer and inactivate them, says Justin Turner, a nasal and sinus surgeon and rhinologist who is among the researchers running the trial at Vanderbilt University in Nashville.

“We know that the virus is very sensitive to soaps and surfactants,” Turner says. Washing hands with soap, for example, is a good way to eliminate the coronavirus. “It seems like it could be reasonable to recommend that for the nose as well,” Turner says.

During the trial, COVID-19 patients with mild to moderate symptoms, but not sick enough to be hospitalized, will either do nothing special to their nose, rinse it with saline several times a day or rinse it with saline plus a small amount of baby shampoo. In the clinical trial, which began May 1, Turner and colleagues are tracking around 100 people’s symptoms and the amount of virus in their noses, a measurement that might indicate whether someone is more or less contagious. An early look at 45 patients shows that people who did the nose rinses, either saline alone or saline with soap, got rid of their headaches and nose congestion about a week earlier than the people who didn’t use rinses. Those interim results appear online September 11 in the International Forum of Allergy & Rhinology

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-treatments-target-nose-prevention
 
  • #883
So...you want us to avoid grouping people together to try and analyze what they are like?

I can't keep telling stories about individuals here, even though they are interesting. The fact is, my cousin is just one of millions who are doing the same thing. What would you like us to call them?

Can you think of a term that is short enough? Non-mask-wearers? In my profession, our goal is to try and understanding the thinking of the non-mask-wearers and the mask-wearers, but I can tell you that all the preliminary research shows that the non-mask-wearers are not one monolithic group.

Some are adamantly anti-mask. They hit, punch and spit when asked to wear masks. Or they take their masks off the instant they are on the plane. Or they put signs on their businesses saying "No service for those who are wearing masks."

Other people, as we have seen on these threads, may simply think CoVId hasn't come to town yet and they'll deal with it when it arrives. Some believe that they are certain the people they're interacting with do not have CoVid (such as people who do nails or waitresses and waiters). Some believe that God is protecting them.

I don't know what else to call the people who lash out at the mask-wearers.

There's no way to "win over" people you don't know (a maskless person was just on my front porch). I have no idea what your social life is like, but I don't see how I would "win over" the people I see who don't wear masks (most of them are young burly males coming out of the local liquor store or smoke shop). Some are people who are running on the narrow trails in the hills, panting all over people (I can't catch up to them to speak to them kindly).

And as a teacher for 40 years, I can assure you that kindness is essential - but only gets you so far, and sometimes results in some antisocial types acting out pretty badly (they won't stop until you get authoritarian on them). Having rules in place (which we do where I live) is a start - but it isn't enough.

Have you seen the academic research (by psychologists) on the anti-mask group? The only known treatment for this cluster of disordered thinking is not "kindness," which is of course in the toolkit of every good therapist. But it doesn't always work.


I completely get what you're saying -- I really do -- I just think it's the wrong way to affect the change we need to keep people safe. I know some of the folks who resist wearing mask act out in highly inappropriate ways, but do you really think calling them names will change their hearts and minds? See, I just don't.

I know there have also been people who have physically and verbally assaulted folks for not wearing masks but I'm not sure labeling them is a good idea either.

I don't expect to convince anyone -- just how I feel.
 
  • #884
I think it's shameful that some religious leaders are acting so recklessly. I don't think we need to treat churches as special cases. There are plenty of ways that churches are successfully continuing their faith, practices and rituals. They continue to find ways to connect and safe ways to carry on their programs. Many churches are finding the current challenges good for their growth and outreach.

I agree that it's difficult for older people. They have less access to some of the techno resources, and they are more closely knit to their church buildings and religious leaders. They can put pressure on the church to get services up and running.

Is it possible that some churches, where we see flagrant disregard for safe practices, have been politicised? The reason I am asking, is that it's very rare to see a church in Canada that is ignoring the public health guidelines. There may be a few, but they are outliers. In Canada, a church may not have any political alliances or it will loss it's charity status. That doesn't seem to be the case in the US.


Perhaps a church could be politicized -- but the same rules are in effect here in the states -- churches are not supposed to be political or they, too, can lose their non-profit status.

It's hard to know for sure, but I think churches could put more effort into small services, social distancing and mask-wearing.

One thing I think should end is taking infants and toddlers into stores. They can't wear masks and they don't even know to cover their mouths when they sneeze.

Since most stores allow shoppers to order ahead and then the store will bring the food or merchandise out, there doesn't seem to be any reason to take maskless children into the stores. I think if young parents would consider doing that we might see the infection rate drop. Just JMOO, of course.
 
  • #885
Around here, no one is discouraging religious services - just basic guidelines they are asking everyone to follow.
Masks and social distancing. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp I don’t think?

There are many outdoor services being held. Still warm and nice fall weather under the changing colors of the trees. Indoor can continue with social distancing and masks. Just not 500 people crammed together indoors, small gatherings done with health of the church members being foremost.
Is that what people are objecting?

But then you had 1,000 from New York to Florida gathering indoors at a church in North Carolina. With the numbers continuing to grow from that event. Which puts the community at an even higher risk. Which I don’t agree with.
JMO


I'm not really sure what they're objecting to -- but I used to drop my mother off at her church and pick her up, yet I won't do that--haven't done that--since February. I know she misses her church but it's just not worth it to me. Her church is still holding services, but I'm not sure what they're doing--mask-wearing--but I'm not sure about the rest. They don't have a call-in service but another church nearby does, so my mom calls them on Sundays.

That's how it's going to have to be for the foreseeable future.
 
  • #886
I am grateful for everyone's responses to my questions (I'm feeling less nervous about the old people - I sure don't see our elderly neighbors at all, so I can't ask them anything).

But, @Black Widow, your response is concerning. I know someone else who almost never goes out, went on a couple of errands recently and also ended up with a head cold. I'm betting on the grocery store since they try to keep the whole store fairly cool (that's why they have those mister things in produce departments, because humidity is low due to the cooling).

We forget that rhinoviruses (the usual cause of the common cold) is everywhere. But it's very strange that you got a cold with N95 masks on!

Also, I wanted to say that your words of wisdom about seeing grandkids brought tears to my eyes. The decisions that led to me living in the same city as my grandchildren (there are only 2) are the best ones that all of us made and nothing makes me happier than being with them. Facetime is not the same.

You giving out your own personal time line (2-3 years) is so helpful. I feel less alone and I haven't been able to think about how many years it might be.

I do think there will be a vaccine (and California says it's going to vet the vaccines here, and we have some of the best medical researchers in the world). So I do hope it will be less than 2-3 years for you, and that you'll see your grandchildren and adult children many more times. Though I live close to mine, we are spending Thanksgiving apart because...I just know we won't really be able to socially distance.

Your attitude is so impressively realistic and rational.

To expand on how each of us have been coping. I've definitely turned into a lurker on this thread, so grateful for all the links to the articles. Often, I find myself going down the rabbit hole, one article leads to another and so on. By time I come back to the thread, I'm dozens of posts behind.

I'm soon to be mid 60's, still work full time, but thankfully from home (even before the pandemic). That being said, lots of things haven't changed for me. However, I take this virus very seriously, have great respect for its potential and choose to cocoon and avoid possible exposure. Being in healthcare gives me a different prospective I believe than the general public. What, to me - is just common sense, doesn't seem to resonate with the general public. I sincerely feel as if I'm living in an alternate reality. Living in NE TN, the population isn't especially large here, my county is about 160K. Our numbers keep going higher and higher and higher. We've had increases of around 50 - 129 new cases daily for past couple of weeks. We're now at almost 3400 cases for my county. The local healthcare system giving a weekly progress report, now 135 Covid patients within the system and they're starting again to divert elective procedures.

My social life has come to an absolute stand still during this pandemic. I can't say I'm happy with what is going on, but I have made the conscious choice to put all social activity on hold for now. I do think there will be an end to this surge, but I also think it will be longer than I had initially hoped. After a few months of cautiously venturing out to do shopping, fully masked and armed with my trusty hand sanitizers, I'm back to totally doing curbside pickup. To me, if it's not essential - I have no excuse to take risks. I have 5 beautiful grandchildren that I want to spend a couple more decades enjoying once this is over. I have not seen my 85-year-old mother or either of my sisters since last Christmas, with no plans to see them until spring probably. They are not taking this in stride and my Mom especially is convinced this is totally "political". As if the entire world has joined forces to conspire against the US.
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I did break isolation during the summer and had my 2 youngest grandchildren for a week, after both I and their family quarantined for 2 weeks before they brought the children to me. My saving grace.

I have missed a family wedding and last week I missed my BIL's funeral (not Covid related)

I just have to keep my eye on the prize - time with my family eventually once it's safe that doesn't send me into a full-blown panic attack being around them.

I am so thankful for this forum - definitely somewhere I can come and not feel so out of the universe and alone.
 
  • #887
You know Covid-19 is out of control when health officials are so overwhelmed, they can't notify close contacts who may be infected.
That's what's happening in North Dakota, one of 31 states suffering more new Covid-19 cases this past week compared to the previous week.

More than 1,100 new deaths were reported Wednesday -- the highest daily toll in more than a month, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

The 31 states are reporting at least 10% more new Covid-19 cases this week compared to last week: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Texas, Tennessee, Vermont, Wisconsin, West Virginia and Wyoming.

Only Hawaii is trending in the right direction. The remaining 18 states are relatively steady.

"Hospitals are starting to fill up," Utah Gov. Gary Herbert said Thursday.

The US just topped 1,100 coronavirus deaths a day. One state is getting National Guard help, and others keep breaking records - CNN
 
  • #888
Thought about this today as I saw a mother and two children at a grocery store bank.

Depending on how long the mask wearing continues, and I believe it will be through 2021 and perhaps beyond, there may be a whole generation of kids accustomed to mask wearing. Will be a different growing up, for sure.
 
  • #889
Coronavirus: Millions are at risk of utilities being shut off as protections expire

Keeping the lights on will get harder for millions of struggling Americans.

State-level protections against electricity, water, and gas disconnections are quickly expiring across the U.S. just as colder weather looms, unemployment remains high, and the prospect for additional government aid remains uncertain.

By mid-November, utility shutoff moratoriums in seven states will expire, while protections in six states will lapse by the end of the year, according to the National Energy Assistance Directors Association. Already, protections have expired or don’t exist in 33 states.

By the end of the month, 82 million households won’t have shutoff protections, including 11 million households that were living below the poverty line before the pandemic began and 10 million people who are unemployed, according to a study by Carbon Switch, an energy-efficiency startup.

This is a public health crisis,” said Mark Wolfe, executive director at the National Energy Assistance Directors Association.Shutting this many people out will have a domino effect on how your children will access their Zoom call, how you’ll have access to electricity to function or run a refrigerator, and your ability to maintain a normal life.”

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Sandra Cruz, who lost her job because of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, and fell four months behind on her rent and is fearing eviction, and her daughter Gabriella wait for a ride after picking up free groceries distributed by the Chelsea Collaborative in Chelsea, Massachusetts.

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Protestors demonstrate during a 'No Evictions, No Police' national day of action protest against law enforcement who forcibly remove people from homes.

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  • #890
Coronavirus: Millions are at risk of utilities being shut off as protections expire

Keeping the lights on will get harder for millions of struggling Americans.

State-level protections against electricity, water, and gas disconnections are quickly expiring across the U.S. just as colder weather looms, unemployment remains high, and the prospect for additional government aid remains uncertain.

By mid-November, utility shutoff moratoriums in seven states will expire, while protections in six states will lapse by the end of the year, according to the National Energy Assistance Directors Association. Already, protections have expired or don’t exist in 33 states.

By the end of the month, 82 million households won’t have shutoff protections, including 11 million households that were living below the poverty line before the pandemic began and 10 million people who are unemployed, according to a study by Carbon Switch, an energy-efficiency startup.

This is a public health crisis,” said Mark Wolfe, executive director at the National Energy Assistance Directors Association.Shutting this many people out will have a domino effect on how your children will access their Zoom call, how you’ll have access to electricity to function or run a refrigerator, and your ability to maintain a normal life.”

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Sandra Cruz, who lost her job because of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, and fell four months behind on her rent and is fearing eviction, and her daughter Gabriella wait for a ride after picking up free groceries distributed by the Chelsea Collaborative in Chelsea, Massachusetts.

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Protestors demonstrate during a 'No Evictions, No Police' national day of action protest against law enforcement who forcibly remove people from homes.

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Millions of Americans are at risk of facing heat and electricity being shut off as statewide protections expire, according to the National Energy Assistance Directors’ Association (NEADA)

When I lived in the US, there used to be a law against utility companies shutting off utilities during the winter - at least, in the state I lived in.

I realise that November is not winter ... but one would hope that the cold temperatures and the chance of people freezing to death would be a huge consideration in this matter.
 
  • #891
When I lived in the US, there used to be a law against utility companies shutting off utilities during the winter - at least, in the state I lived in.

I realise that November is not winter ... but one would hope that the cold temperatures and the chance of people freezing to death would be a huge consideration in this matter.

Where I live right now I have had to have the heat on, not every day, but it is getting cold now. November is very cold here and you have to have heat every day...Burrr.....

In October it starts getting cold, some very cold nights. The USA has many States that need heat from October, some in September, through March even April. Snow storms happen even in April. Huge Country. We had a rare snow storm in April, even sometimes ice storms where everything is covered with a coating of ice. Beautiful but don't walk under branches. I have told this to my kids a hundred times!

When our power went out from a power outage in the winter for 3 days we would have froze to death if we hadn't gone to my dad's house. Poor dad, had all our cats over there!

Then when my sister lost power and showed up with her dog it was complete chaos.

Can't make this stuff up!
My crazy life! ... :eek: ... :D


 
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  • #892
I notice that on Twitter, Sean Feucht (who is hosting the event) states that FB is censuring his posts about the event. The reason that FB states for the censure is "part of the Q conspiracy".

Source: Twitter post Oct 22 - Sean Feucht.

While I can't find a media article about this (yet), I see that this is not the first time that social media platforms have censured his posts.

Instagram Reportedly Censors Worship Rally Video from Bethel Music’s Sean Feucht | BCNN1 - Black Christian News Network

Recently, Sean Feucht came to West Palm Beach, FL, a city in my county that is not too far from me. He held a mask-less rally and concert, violating Palm Beach County and city regulations. Nearby business owners were furious, as they were adhering to social distancing and mask ordinances, but Feucht’s gathering had no social distancing and no masks. It was held in a city park without a permit, and approximately 600 people were present. By the time the city and local police realized what he’d done, it was too late. I am sure Feucht and his followers contributed to a subsequent uptick in Covid-19 cases in my county... He does this in as many cities as possible. These gatherings are mainly concerts with a dose of anti-mask rhetoric.
 
  • #893
Thanks for providing the alternate website... First take, I do find it confusing., though her school ages cases certainly are higher. Have you been following the alternative site over time? What numbers are you looking at most closely??

The death numbers are higher, because all Covid-19 deaths in Florida are included, not just permanent residents. The number of deaths shown on her website includes people who are seasonal or temporary residents. She has also tried to get accurate school and long term care case numbers; sometimes her data is the same as the state but it can be different... So her website’s death total is correct.
 
  • #894
It gets worse......

2 dead from COVID-19, cases reach 68 from events tied to Charlotte church, county says — The Charlotte Observer

“A growing COVID-19 outbreak at a Charlotte church — the largest identified by Mecklenburg officials to date — has now left at least two people dead, Mecklenburg County officials said late Wednesday.

The caseload has grown significantly — jumping to 68 cases now — since county health officials first announced the outbreak late Saturday. That was nearly a week after the multi-day event that wrapped up Oct. 11 at the United House of Prayer for All People on Beatties Ford Road.

Mecklenburg County Public Health is trying to reach 94 close contacts reported by the 68 people with confirmed cases of COVID-19.

County officials also have notified other local health departments in North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, New Jersey and New York to monitor for cases connected to the church events”
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At least 1,000 people attended events at the church from Oct. 4-11.

North Carolina
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Georgia
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As COVID-19 cases rise, these states set rules for traveling to and from North Carolina


And back in March of this year.

Dozens of people gather at Charlotte church even after health director bans mass gatherings
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82 cases. 3 dead. 5 hospitalized.
Numbers keep going up day by day...:(

COVID-19 cases grow to 82, and 3 deaths, tied to cluster from NC church events — The Charlotte Observer

“COVID-19 cases connected to events at a Charlotte church continue to climb, with 82 cases and three deaths reported as of Thursday night.

Mecklenburg County Public Health has attempted to contact 131 close contacts of the 82 people with confirmed cases of COVID-19 linked to the events at United House of Prayer for All People on Beatties Ford Road.”

As of Monday, the state agency has reported 76 clusters in religious gatherings resulting in 1,040 COVID-19 cases and 13 deaths.”
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/21/coronavirus-close-contact-cdc/

Okay, I have to say I am getting weary of all this "new " info about this virus. Now it is just brief contact with people can cause the virus. It was thought you needed a certain period of time, like 15 min to contract the virus. Now it could be a minute here or a minute there with someone who has it. Frankly, I am getting pizzed---- I think I will just hide under my bed.

This never made any sense to me. I remember reading once on the viral load in a cough, a sneeze etc and then how much you needed to be infected which was not a ton compared to a cough, a sneeze or loud talking. So how would people need that exposure to last 5 to 15 min?

Like 5 second rule of airborne virus? The viruses can't hurt you unless it's been 15 minutes!! lol

I also know that my family has personally caught viruses that had to be brief exposure with no known source or perhaps surface contact. It's discouraging to me.
 
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Massachusetts to temporarily pause all indoor ice rink and ice skating facilities operations for two weeks
More at link
BOSTON — Due to rising cases of COVID-19 connected to indoor ice hockey, the Massachusetts Department of Public Health issued a new public health order today prohibiting indoor ice rinks and ice skating facilities from operating from October 23, 2020 to November 7, 2020.

This order is in response to multiple COVID-19 clusters occurring at rinks throughout the state following games, practices and tournaments. Neighboring states including New Hampshire have enacted similar temporary restrictions regarding indoor ice hockey.

There have been at least 30 clusters of COVID-19 associated with organized ice hockey activities involving residents from more than 60 municipalities in Massachusetts. Each of these includes two or more confirmed or probable COVID-19 cases, totaling 108 confirmed cases.
 
  • #899
SC coroners explain process of removing COVID-19 from incorrect death certificates

"Richland County Coroner Gary Watts says of his county’s 263 COVD-19 deaths, he’s removed the virus from three death certificates. “If I have a death certificate, and someone says it’s COVID, and they weren’t tested, I have changed that,” Watts explained.

Lexington County Coroner Margaret Fisher says of her county’s 173 COVID-19 deaths, she’s changed five. “We reached out to DHEC and said we have these death certificates, and family is saying they need to be changed,” Fisher noted. “I asked do we have the right to do that, and she said yes, of course.”

Coroner Fisher says she’s found COVID-19 sometimes incorrectly appears on a death certificate because the doctor wasn’t personally involved in writing it. She says they sometimes have a staff member who writes them. She also believes medical certifiers occasionally miss things. “It’s a constant check and balance with us,” said Fisher. “Every death certificate that comes across us, we are responsible for it, and we like to have our numbers accurate.”
This drives me crazy. Colorado did the same thing— counting only those people who’d tested positive for COVID in death statistics. Purportedly “to make numbers more accurate” but some think the change was made to reassure citizens while making Jittery Politicians look good.

Limiting COVID death stats to people that tested positive is a misleading approach that understates the problem and may mask important trends. That’s because without a positive COVID test, in CO you didn’t die of COVID no-one even if all the facts and common sense point to COVID as COD.

There a slew of reasons a victim may not have been tested:

o testing supply shortages
o no local testing facilities
o financial concerns/no health insurance
o limited mobility/transportation challenges
o reluctance to leave home for fear of catching COVID
o belief that “it’s just a cold”
o asymptomatic until sudden decline.

And is it safe to assume every hospitalized COVID patient is tested? Perhaps a COVID patient arrives at the hospital and isn’t tested because the exhausted staff is confident it’s COVID and immediately starts treatment. Or patient dies in the hospital before being tested and they skip testing the dead guy to try to save someone still alive?

How many people die of COVID without being tested? There’s no way to know for sure but at least we had an idea of magnitude when probable cases were also tracked. Now, we have no clue and no indication if that number starts going up or down. And if for some reason we can no longer test, Colarado’s COVID deaths will immediately drop to zero.

Not sure if this is the case in FL, but here even a positive test is no guarantee a COVID death will be counted. That’s because Powers That Be decided months ago that coroners are to decide whether a COVID-positive person died of the virus or something else. Mucking up statistical data even more with yet another uncontrolled variable

When a COVID positive patient dies, there’s generally no autopsy—the coroner simply reviews patient files. If a patient dies because an underlying condition was aggravated by COVID, the underlying condition may be cited as cause of death. Or not. One coroner may conclude Patient X died of COVID while a different coroner might find the same patient died from an asthma attack, PE, stroke or heart disease. And either is be acceptable because Coroners have been given very little guidance. Personally I think the standard should be “But not for COVID, would this person likely still be alive today?”. And there are no standards because “Who are we [the government] to question a Coroner’s professional opinion?”

I’m sure Coroners will do their level best to get it right, but how many cases could go either way? When faced w/a true toss-up, it’s likely local political pressure will cause many to choose the non-COVID cause of death.
 
  • #900
Massachusetts to temporarily pause all indoor ice rink and ice skating facilities operations for two weeks
More at link
BOSTON — Due to rising cases of COVID-19 connected to indoor ice hockey, the Massachusetts Department of Public Health issued a new public health order today prohibiting indoor ice rinks and ice skating facilities from operating from October 23, 2020 to November 7, 2020.

This order is in response to multiple COVID-19 clusters occurring at rinks throughout the state following games, practices and tournaments. Neighboring states including New Hampshire have enacted similar temporary restrictions regarding indoor ice hockey.

There have been at least 30 clusters of COVID-19 associated with organized ice hockey activities involving residents from more than 60 municipalities in Massachusetts. Each of these includes two or more confirmed or probable COVID-19 cases, totaling 108 confirmed cases.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/article246202850.html

“In an object lesson of the difficulties of playing lower-level sports during a pandemic, two Triangle junior hockey teams may have spread COVID-19 to their Atlanta-area opponents last weekend.”

“The Junior Hurricanes Premier and Elite, teams for prospective college-bound players aged 16-20, traveled to Marietta, Ga., for games last Saturday and Sunday. Several players and staff tested positive for COVID-19 ahead of the trip and were left at home, but players and staff who tested negative were allowed to travel and play.”

“Karen Fishman, the mother of a player from Georgia who plays on the Junior Hurricanes Elite team, posted on Facebook that 17 players and staff tested positive before the trip. Her son tested negative, played in two games and subsequently tested positive on Monday. Efforts to reach Fishman for further comment were unsuccessful.”

Can anyone say “close contact”?
How are we going to get the numbers under the control if this keeps happening?
Isn’t ice hockey considered a high risk activity in terms of spreading COVID?
 
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