Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #88

[dixiegirl1035]

national guard administers it- they are also developing a "vaccine gun" which will jab multiple people. It has a sterilizing element so that they do not have to manufacture individual vials/ pre-filled syringes, etc. Think "MASH," not your local pharmacy.

www.wnpr.org › post › vaccine-approvals-loom-us-fun...
Nov 19, 2020 — ... The Island Next Door · Sharing America · Guns & America · Sports ... The Connecticut company makes a disposable injection device that it says can be ... She said the fact that the administration has placed such a large bet on a ... part of the vaccine manufacturing process — producing glass vials, filling ...

I've not heard that vaccine guns were back as I thought they were pretty much banned way back because of cross contamination (e.g. HIV, Hepatitis were concerns... I think WHO also banned them way back). Are you talking about air injection? @acutename , Do you have a link for such as I'd like to review such a thing that can "load" a gun and shoot off a cache to multiple folks.

Went down the rabbit hole on the ApiJect technology for the single use injection device which replaces having glass vial and is each a single injector. Here is a picture of it.



Although MSM headlines say "It's ready to make 45 million a month"... MSM is wayyyyyyyyyy off MOO by the companies press release. It looks like they are doing PR right now News - ApiJect | See What the News and Press are Saying About ApiJect to get matching funds to obtain the "promised loan" by the US government to build the facility. (More on facility at ApiJect snares $590M government loan for 'Gigafactory' to produce billions of prefilled vaccine injectors per year )

Here is an interesting article on the hurdles for the device that is new and pre-FDA approval etc. that I highly recommend for reading as discusses pros/cons/obstacles etc. And wouldn't the packaging for the mRNA into these need to be done right at the site where the vaccine was manufactured? (neither mRNA's are being manufactured there that I know of... they must be filled asap and frozen I would think. And one of the mRNA vaccines is required too be cold for the plastic required)

As Vaccine Approvals Loom, U.S. Funds A Backup Plan For Delivery
and another overview at PHARMAnetwork magazine - world pharmaceutical & CDMO business news

"DFC Funding Aims to Help ApiJect Build 1 Million Square Foot Campus in North Carolina for Faster Fill-Finish Operation. ApiJect said that when the GigaFactory, as the company calls it, is fully operational, it will produce up to 3 billion single-dose injectors per year. The company expects the project will create some 650 jobs in North Carolina's Research Triangle Park. ApiJect must raise $ 200 million on its own to qualify for federal funds. ....... looks forward to continuing to raise additional capital to complete this important project."

Picture of the single dose -


Here is information on the loan

DFC Approves $590 Million Loan to ApiJect to Expand Infrastructure and Deliver Critical Vaccines in Response to the COVID-19 Pandemic

@margarita25

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I was down a rabbit hole for something else and found this. Of interest, what are the "other" ingredients in vaccines. Each vaccine in the US is listed. Just found it interesting to add to the knowledge here and had to look up the 4 that I've gotten in recent years (flu, shingrex, MMR, pneumonia)

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Hmmm, possible answer to my earlier question re: Phase 3 Trials / This is obviously not 6 months, see BBM:

Pfizer and BioNTech Conclude Phase 3 Study of COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate, Meeting All Primary Efficacy Endpoints | Pfizer

““We are grateful that the first global trial to reach the final efficacy analysis mark indicates that a high rate of protection against COVID-19 can be achieved very fast after the first 30 µg dose, underscoring the power of BNT162 in providing early protection,” said Ugur Sahin, M.D., CEO and Co-founder of BioNTech. “These achievements highlight the potential of mRNA as a new drug class. Our objective from the very beginning was to design and develop a vaccine that would generate rapid and potent protection against COVID-19 with a benign tolerability profile across all ages. We believe we have achieved this with our vaccine candidate BNT162b2 in all age groups studied so far and look forward to sharing further details with the regulatory authorities. I want to thank all the devoted women and men who contributed to this historically unprecedented achievement. We will continue to work with our partners and governments around the world to prepare for global distribution in 2020 and beyond.”

The Phase 3 clinical trial of BNT162b2 began on July 27 and has enrolled 43,661 participants to date, 41,135 of whom have received a second dose of the vaccine candidate as of November 13, 2020. Approximately 42% of global participants and 30% of U.S. participants have racially and ethnically diverse backgrounds, and 41% of global and 45% of U.S. participants are 56-85 years of age. A breakdown of the diversity of clinical trial participants can be found here from approximately 150 clinical trials sites in United States, Germany, Turkey, South Africa, Brazil and Argentina. The trial will continue to collect efficacy and safety data in participants for an additional two years.

Based on current projections, the companies expect to produce globally up to 50 million vaccine doses in 2020 and up to 1.3 billion doses by the end of 2021. Four of Pfizer’s facilities are part of the manufacturing and supply chain; St. Louis, MO; Andover, MA; and Kalamazoo, MI in the U.S.; and Puurs in Belgium. BioNTech’s German sites will also be leveraged for global supply.

Pfizer is confident in its vast experience, expertise and existing cold-chain infrastructure to distribute the vaccine around the world. The companies have developed specially designed, temperature-controlled thermal shippers utilizing dry ice to maintain temperature conditions of -70°C±10°C. They can be used be as temporary storage units for 15 days by refilling with dry ice. Each shipper contains a GPS-enabled thermal sensor to track the location and temperature of each vaccine shipment across their pre-set routes leveraging Pfizer’s broad distribution network.

Pfizer and BioNTech plan to submit the efficacy and safety data from the study for peer-review in a scientific journal once analysis of the data is completed.“

Thanks for pointing out that manufacturing of the vaccine is in St. Louis, MO; Andover, MA; and Kalamazoo, MI in the U.S.. That ties into a question I had when I read about the above single dosage item above. If the vaccine must be ASAP filled and frozen... how can they do the filling in the new facility in South Carolina? They'll have to make a new facility to manufacture the vaccine at the filling place to be built? They can't ship deep freeze a humongous batch to be rethawed in SC? Hmmmm. Simple thought... Houston, we have a problem? MOO.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

There was zero comprehension of “logistics” when criticizing how long it took testing to get rolled out. So it’s curious to me listening to the reasons that taking many, many months to give people a shot is somehow different and acceptable. I guess it depends on how one chooses to look at it.


I work in healthcare in the US, directly with covid patients. I assure you there were absolutely logistical nightmares getting testing ramped up. We ran out of swabs. We ran out of reagent. And on and on.

There is also some question as to the validity of whether or not the US was actually offered test kits, but of course that doesn’t necessarily feed the narrative some are determined to believe.

Perhaps this WHO lady is a bald-faced liar, though I’m not sure what the motivation would be for her to do so.

“No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States,” said WHO spokesperson Margaret Harris. “This is consistent with experience since the United States does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic tests because of sufficient domestic capacity.”

Biden Falsely Blames Trump Administration For Rejecting WHO Coronavirus Test Kits (That Were Never Offered)

You may not have been on the threads early on when different US companies and Universities said WE CAN MAKE/WE MADE!!, and were turned down. e.g University of Washington I remember specifically as one University, but there were many others. This was waaaay back and discussed for a long time on threads.

ETA: I see that @margarita25 gave a link that goes into perhaps. I can't recall what is in that one... but sure it can give insight.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

MIS-C-
Here we are complaining about toilet paper shortages.
Even IF they got the virus under control, there still is very likely to be an organ donation shortage.
Those who had hoped the survived COVID may continue to die over several years.
There simply won't be enough kidneys and livers and hearts to go around.
MOO

I just read about.... lemme google... here it is. Covid patient received double lung transplant

https://www.uwhealth.org/news/woman...id-19-released-from-university-hospital/53576

Double-Lung Transplant Saves Patient After COVID-19

Her Only Chance at Survival
She was healthy, and is in her 20s. But after battling COVID-19 for six weeks while being supported by a ventilator and extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO), a life support machine that does the work of the heart and lungs, her lungs had suffered irreversible damage from the virus.

The lung transplant team put her on the organ donation list for a double-lung transplant; 48 hours later, the patient received a new set of lungs at Northwestern Memorial Hospital. It was the first procedure of its kind in the U.S. for a patient whose lungs were damaged by COVID-19.

Only Chance at Survival
The woman, whose name is withheld for privacy, lives and works in Chicago. She is also Hispanic, an ethnic group that has been particularly hard-hit by COVID-19.

 

[acutename]

I've not heard that vaccine guns were back as I thought they were pretty much banned way back because of cross contamination (e.g. HIV, Hepatitis were concerns... I think WHO also banned them way back). Are you talking about air injection? @acutename , Do you have a link for such as I'd like to review such a thing that can "load" a gun and shoot off a cache to multiple folks.

Went down the rabbit hole on the ApiJect technology for the single use injection device which replaces having glass vial and is each a single injector. Here is a picture of it.

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Although MSM headlines say "It's ready to make 45 million a month"... MSM is wayyyyyyyyyy off MOO by the companies press release. It looks like they are doing PR right now News - ApiJect | See What the News and Press are Saying About ApiJect to get matching funds to obtain the "promised loan" by the US government to build the facility. (More on facility at ApiJect snares $590M government loan for 'Gigafactory' to produce billions of prefilled vaccine injectors per year )

Here is an interesting article on the hurdles for the device that is new and pre-FDA approval etc. that I highly recommend for reading as discusses pros/cons/obstacles etc. And wouldn't the packaging for the mRNA into these need to be done right at the site where the vaccine was manufactured? (neither mRNA's are being manufactured there that I know of... they must be filled asap and frozen I would think. And one of the mRNA vaccines is required too be cold for the plastic required)

As Vaccine Approvals Loom, U.S. Funds A Backup Plan For Delivery
and another overview at PHARMAnetwork magazine - world pharmaceutical & CDMO business news

"DFC Funding Aims to Help ApiJect Build 1 Million Square Foot Campus in North Carolina for Faster Fill-Finish Operation. ApiJect said that when the GigaFactory, as the company calls it, is fully operational, it will produce up to 3 billion single-dose injectors per year. The company expects the project will create some 650 jobs in North Carolina's Research Triangle Park. ApiJect must raise $ 200 million on its own to qualify for federal funds. ....... looks forward to continuing to raise additional capital to complete this important project."

Picture of the single dose -
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Here is information on the loan

DFC Approves $590 Million Loan to ApiJect to Expand Infrastructure and Deliver Critical Vaccines in Response to the COVID-19 Pandemic@margarita25

10,000 apologies, as I thought what I cited was the correct reference...all I am finding now is this:

A COVID-19 vaccine may come without a needle, the latest vaccine to protect without jabbing

this is not exactly what I heard reported though because I heard about govt grant $ to research a way to do multiple injections, and the implement to do it had some sort of "heat mode" that could be activated quickly between patents to self-sterilize. I could not make this up because I am not that creative. let me keep looking, and I will say IMO for now.


check out this EXHAUSTIVE paper on vaccine delivery techniques:

file:///C:/Users/lutac/AppData/Local/Temp/vaccines-08-00534.pdf

p. 15 talks about thermal ablation (lasers)- no actual touching so possibly no cross contamination between recipients

 

[nightowl1975]

You may not have been on the threads early on when different US companies and Universities said WE CAN MAKE/WE MADE!!, and were turned down. e.g University of Washington I remember specifically as one University, but there were many others. This was waaaay back and discussed for a long time on threads.

ETA: I see that @margarita25 gave a link that goes into perhaps. I can't recall what is in that one... but sure it can give insight.

Yes, I’ve been following along here, and in real life, since the beginning.

I’m eager to see how much more efficient and speedy the new administration can get this vaccine out to the general public compared to the time it took to ramp up testing. Hopefully it’s quick and many millions are willing to get vaccinated while others of us take a more cautious approach and wait for further data/results before being vaccinated. Most articles I’ve read, and certainly what I’ve heard and experienced in real life, indicates less than half of all US nurses asked are willing to be vaccinated at this point.

It’ll be fascinating for sure to see how wide-spread vaccination unfolds over the next few months for a multitude of reasons.

 

[margarita25]

MIS-C-
Here we are complaining about toilet paper shortages.
Even IF they got the virus under control, there still is very likely to be an organ donation shortage.
Those who had hoped the survived COVID may continue to die over several years.
There simply won't be enough kidneys and livers and hearts to go around.
MOO

Good to see you @gngr~snap.

3 Things:

1. ) I hope you received a good update on Nov. 11, (iirc the date correctly), re: your little grand babies.

2. ) Your above post is very sobering, and something I’m sure none of us thought of re: MIS-C (but is now clearly evident in hindsight with all the information and reference about organ involvement).

3. ) I wish I could ask you for a link and contest this post, but that’s out of the question, considering you are a Verified Pediatric Nurse.

 

[Sprockett7701]

I think young kids will be way down the list. I read yesterday that only one vaccine has been tested on any children, and those were 12 years old and above.

The article I read was saying how kids need to be involved in the vaccine testing. I kind of shuddered (even though I realise that kids need to be vaccinated) because I wondered who was going to put their young children up for experimentation.

They mentioned that once we felt confident that adults were responding well, they would start (testing) lower doses on children. See what kind of dose they need. Presumably they wont need (and maybe can't handle) an 'adult strength' dose.

Thos terrifies me...I’m so glad to be in a position atm where we don’t need a vaccine...but I’m not dumb enough to think that will last for ever...

Scary...I’m not giving my kids anything that hasn’t been fully tested and researched. Sorry, just not. And I’m not putting them in for vaccine testing either...Nup, nope, not gonna happen.

Like I said, I realise I speak from a privileged position, in that we have 0 community transmission and have been that way for many months, obviously was I living in the US my opinion may change. It’s hard to even imagine that reality though.

My heart breaks for you guys, it really does. :-(

 

[10ofRods]

Yes, I’ve been following along here, and in real life, since the beginning.

I’m eager to see how much more efficient and speedy the new administration can get this vaccine out to the general public compared to the time it took to ramp up testing. Hopefully it’s quick and many millions are willing to get vaccinated while others of us take a more cautious approach and wait for further data/results before being vaccinated. Most articles I’ve read, and certainly what I’ve heard and experienced in real life, indicates less than half of all US nurses asked are willing to be vaccinated at this point.

It’ll be fascinating for sure to see how wide-spread vaccination unfolds over the next few months for a multitude of reasons.

The two things (testing and distributing) are very different.

The time it takes to test is pretty much a scientific matter and governed by the FDA.

Distribution is a state and local matter, in coordination with a now gutted and non-functioning federal government that must be restructured.

Entirely different situation. At any rate, I hope your state (and mine) are ready. The nurse shortage is our biggest obstacle.

Many millions will get vaccinated, as soon as they are able (but where I live, we have too many hospitalizations taking up all the nursing staff and we'll need a new plan).

Do you have a citation for that nurse information? Because all the health professionals I know, including student nurses, are eager to get vaccinated. I haven't read a juried article in which nurses say they aren't willing to be vaccinated. There are journals in which nurses publish actual studies.

I predict NY, NJ, MA and CA will be at the head of class in vaccine roll-out, but wouldn't be surprised if some states with smaller distribution problems (NV) do well as well.

At any rate, every teacher I know is more than willing to line up - and some have been in trials. AFAIK, there's no data on nurses in the US, but healthcare workers (including nurses) in other nations are very much pro-vaccine.

The association between vaccination confidence, vaccination behavior, and willingness to recommend vaccines among Finnish healthcare workers

Here's a review of over 1900 articles on the topic.

Vaccine hesitancy and healthcare providers - ScienceDirect

Looks like patients are more vaccine-resistant than nurses, to me. Only 16% are vaccine hesistant (way more than outside the US, but still). I think you need some facts to support your conclusion.

 

[margarita25]

I just came across this one hour and twenty three minute film:

Frontline PBS / The Virus: What Went Wrong? (Full Film) / 5 months ago:

 

[ilovewings]

10,000 apologies, as I thought what I cited was the correct reference...all I am finding now id this:

A COVID-19 vaccine may come without a needle, the latest vaccine to protect without jabbing

this is not exactly what I heard reported though because I heard about govt grant $ to research a way to do multiple injections, and the implement to do it had some sort of "heat mode" that could be activated quickly between patents to self-sterilize. I could not make this up because I am not that creative. let me keep looking, and I will say IMO for now.

not sure i would trust the "sterilization" between patients. In fact I know I wouldn't

 

[acutename]

national guard administers it- they are also developing a "vaccine gun" which will jab multiple people. It has a sterilizing element so that they do not have to manufacture individual vials/ pre-filled syringes, etc. Think "MASH," not your local pharmacy.

www.wnpr.org › post › vaccine-approvals-loom-us-fun...
Nov 19, 2020 — ... The Island Next Door · Sharing America · Guns & America · Sports ... The Connecticut company makes a disposable injection device that it says can be ... She said the fact that the administration has placed such a large bet on a ... part of the vaccine manufacturing process — producing glass vials, filling ...

For an EXHAUSTIVE discussion of vaccine delivery techniques, try this paper:

Vaccination into the Dermal Compartment: Techniques, Challenges, and Prospects - PubMed

around page 15, they discuss thermal ablation (lasers) which they say has little cross contamination since the device would not actually touch the skin. this might have been what was discussed when I first heard the above npr broadcast.

 

[margarita25]

—

Bringing this Nov. 28 article and post over by @PayrollNerd from the vaccination thread to digest later / goodnight

Lots more at link. It is important that they go back and track the origin of this virus. That would really be helpful to know what triggered it, how it spread, who it spread to, the rate of spread, etc. There is always going to be some virus out there and the world needs to learn to quickly extinguish them. What a worldwide learning opportunity.

Five questions on new data from China-WHO showing 124 confirmed coronavirus patients in December 2019 | Science Speaks: Global ID News (sciencespeaksblog.org)

By Daniel R. Lucey M.D., MPH, FIDSA

After China initially reported 41, then ~ 46, and then ~ 100 laboratory-confirmed cases in December 2019, a total of 124 confirmed cases in December was reported by China July 31 but for some reason only posted on the WHO website Nov. 5.

Snip:
First posted on the WHO website Nov. 5 the July 31 terms of reference for the WHO-convened Joint China-WHO team investigating the origins of SARS-CoV2 provided this new valuable data on page 5 of 9: “Retrospective review of cases identified a total of 124 confirmed cases with onset date in December 2019, 119 of whom were from Wuhan and 5 others from Hubei or other provinces, but all with travel links to Wuhan during the period of exposure. A study of 41 initially identified confirmed cases showed that 70% of the cases had a link to the Huanan market (Huang et al, 2020), but detailed exposure factors within the market and elsewhere remain unclear.”

Five questions on new data from China-WHO showing 124 confirmed coronavirus patients in December 2019

“The above “Huang et al, 2020” reference is to a Lancet paper online Jan. 24 in which 41 confirmed patients (40 illness onset in December and one illness onset on Jan. 1). The ”70%” with a link to the Seafood Market were shown chronologically in the paper’s Figure 1B.

Five days later, on Jan. 29, the New England Journal of Medicine published a paper on 425 confirmed patients through Jan. 22. Figure 1 in that paper provided the timeline of illness onset for 46 patients in December.

On Feb. 17 the China CDC weekly published a detailed epidemiologic study of the epidemic with 44, 672 confirmed cases through Feb. 11. In Figure 2B here:”

 

[Deleted member 158085]

national guard administers it- they are also developing a "vaccine gun" which will jab multiple people. It has a sterilizing element so that they do not have to manufacture individual vials/ pre-filled syringes, etc. Think "MASH," not your local pharmacy.

www.wnpr.org › post › vaccine-approvals-loom-us-fun...
Nov 19, 2020 — ... The Island Next Door · Sharing America · Guns & America · Sports ... The Connecticut company makes a disposable injection device that it says can be ... She said the fact that the administration has placed such a large bet on a ... part of the vaccine manufacturing process — producing glass vials, filling ...

Oh, thank god. It’s almost impossible to screw up a shot when it is administered this way. And after having gotten the flu shot from hell this year (went too deep and caused bursitis), this makes me very happy. I used to inject myself with a gun monthly. I didn’t have to psych myself up like I did with a needle because literally just about anyone can do this right. Seems like it would increase the pool of qualified people to give the vaccination.

I also believe, however, that it must make it much more expensive.

ETA - I was thinking the gun was the same as an autoinjector.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

10,000 apologies, as I thought what I cited was the correct reference...all I am finding now id this:

A COVID-19 vaccine may come without a needle, the latest vaccine to protect without jabbing

this is not exactly what I heard reported though because I heard about govt grant $ to research a way to do multiple injections, and the implement to do it had some sort of "heat mode" that could be activated quickly between patents to self-sterilize. I could not make this up because I am not that creative. let me keep looking, and I will say IMO for now.

We're all here learning! Thanks for the link. While I was in the rabbit hole looking for what you were stating, I did see that one flu vaccine in the US was indeed done by "air injection"... iirc that is what it was called. I had the site... lemme look in history... here it is... Flu Vaccination by Jet Injector | CDC

Again, opposite of needing to send 10,000 apologies as I give thanks for the links as we are all here to prompt to learn as for most here.. this is all new territory and understanding.

 

[margarita25]

Canada surpasses 360K coronavirus cases as Quebec, Alberta break daily infection records

Boy under age of 10 becomes Manitoba's youngest COVID-19 victim, 487 new cases reported

Nooooooo...

Canada....what happened...you guys were doing so well, and have really had it together...

Seriously, I’m interested in what the heck happened....It’s been so crazy here in the States, and I haven’t kept up with Canada, but have been meaning to, as you know I was very interested and still am interested in other countries as well, and was watching Global News Canada daily in the early days and posting videos...

Gosh, I hope you guys can put out the fires.

Keep caring, keep fighting
(waving Canadian flag)

@LadyL , pls keep us updated on the Ontario “nosocomial situation”...



Yeah, I’m not liking these numbers out of Manitoba...sounds all too familiar...

“The current five-day COVID-19 test positivity rate is 14.2% provincially and 13.9% in Winnipeg, both down from Friday’s numbers. As of 9:30 a.m., Saturday, 487 new cases of the virus have been identified and the total number of lab-confirmed cases in Manitoba to 16,118. The vast majority of the new cases – 307 – come from Winnipeg while there were 104 new cases in Southern Health, 38 in Northern, 23 in Interlake-Eastern and 15 in Prairie Mountain Health region.

There are currently 9,024 active cases including 6,537 from Winnipeg while 6,804 individuals have recovered from COVID-19. There are a pandemic-high 327 people in hospital with 44 people in intensive care.“

CBP Customer Service

It looks like the problem could be travel. Residents of Canada can cross, indigenous people, essential businesses, cargo, freight...and that is what is fueling the spread. On both sides of the border. I guess that the two week quarantine is not being rigorously enforced.

I’m not sure about Canada, as I’m behind in their provinces’ rates, restrictions, etc., but it seems generally that “pandemic fatigue” also may play a role in some cases, as experts have mentioned.



Interesting link.

Additionally:

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Travel restrictions, exemptions and advice - Canada.ca

“For additional information on non-essential and essential travel to Canada, please visit the Government of Canada web page Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Travel Restrictions and Exemptions“

—
Eta / From the above link, ugh, map...NOT HAPPY to see this:
Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Outbreak update - Canada.ca

I’m going to take a wild guess and say that you guys up there could have more cases than are showing up on that map right now. How good are your testing and tracing programs/implementation over there?
—

Eta2 / Notes:

CANADA THREAD

Additional links:

Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Canada’s response - Canada.ca
Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Guidance documents - Canada.ca
Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Awareness resources - Canada.ca

• Economic and financial support
• Border measures and travel
• Support for Canadians abroad
• Digital tools and apps
• Public education
• Health care preparedness, guidance and ethics
• Military
• Diverse communities
• Helping people who use substances
• Research and technology
• Collaboration
• Clinical trials and sponsors
• Drug and medical device supply monitoring

BC. Canada. Yes, our numbers are spiking. Scary times. I think it’s the result of all of it. Canadian Thanksgiving. Halloween just prior to that. Kids back to school and college. Covid fatigue. Covid denyers, Mask debaters and the onset of winter. With talk of a vaccine I think people began believing it was almost all over, despite that they have been warning us all along that this virus likes the cold...and we are now basically into winter temperatures in many areas of the country. We are on restrictions to have no one in our homes but those who live in the home and to avoid all travel except for necessities. No groups..indoors or outside and masks must now be worn in all public buildings and so on. This is until Dec 7, but I will not be surprised to see it extended. I have an aunt, age 82 in quarantine as her 83 year old husband has
Covid. They have no idea where he got it as they only leave their home for groceries and do wear masks, use sanitizer, wash their groceries and spray their mail. Apart from having lost a lot of weight, he seems to be recovering well and so far she has no symptoms. My other remaining aunt ( both are my deceased mothers sisters) is age 100 and in a care home which is now riddled with Covid. I don’t have much hope she will survive this. It’s all very depressing as you well know.
On another note I have been thinking a lot about Kali, and hoping she’s okay as I don’t think she’s checked in for a while.

Yeah, I’m not liking these numbers out of Manitoba...sounds all too familiar...

“The current five-day COVID-19 test positivity rate is 14.2% provincially and 13.9% in Winnipeg, both down from Friday’s numbers. As of 9:30 a.m., Saturday, 487 new cases of the virus have been identified and the total number of lab-confirmed cases in Manitoba to 16,118. The vast majority of the new cases – 307 – come from Winnipeg while there were 104 new cases in Southern Health, 38 in Northern, 23 in Interlake-Eastern and 15 in Prairie Mountain Health region.

There are currently 9,024 active cases including 6,537 from Winnipeg while 6,804 individuals have recovered from COVID-19. There are a pandemic-high 327 people in hospital with 44 people in intensive care.“

Told ya I wasn’t liking Manitoba...

Live stream / 5374 watching now
CBC News: The National / Manitoba’s hotbed of COVID-19 and defiance

 

[MissBlueesteyes]

ADMIN NOTE:

10ofRods is a Verified medical anthropologist and as such they are not required to provide links to information that is within the area of their expertise.

I've always had an interest in anthropology. I'm interested to see what 10ofRods has to tell us. Thanks for pointing him/her out.

 

[margarita25]

I've always had an interest in anthropology. I'm interested to see what 10ofRods has to tell us. Thanks for pointing him/her out.

(Rods Rocks! )

 

[MissBlueesteyes]

(Rods Rocks! )

Cool. I'm looking forward to "meeting" them. I'm trying to find them. I'm totally fascinated by anthropology & I have a medical background (I've messaged the admins to see how I can be verified). I'm sure I can learn from 10ofRods.