Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #88

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Now live... header says "Cuomo makes an Announcement"

Ha! He's playing holiday music and using the grinch in his presser

He's mandating no more elective surgeries in some hospitals, and requiring patient redistribution.. and much more

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https://twitter.com/GovMurphy/status/1333460689231482889
@GovMurphy:

Contact Tracing Update: We now have approximately 3,000 contact tracers on the ground.
Nearly 70% of individuals refuse to cooperate with our contact tracers.
This is not a witch hunt. This is about protecting you, your loved ones, and your community.
Take the call.
 
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I've always had an interest in anthropology. I'm interested to see what 10ofRods has to tell us. Thanks for pointing him/her out.

(Rods Rocks! :))

Cool. I'm looking forward to "meeting" them. I'm trying to find them. I'm totally fascinated by anthropology & I have a medical background (I've messaged the admins to see how I can be verified). I'm sure I can learn from 10ofRods.

Thanks, guys. We can sure use more researchers here on this thread (verified or not, we have a really good crew here).

As an anthropologist, I learn from all of you, especially in the domain of how people actually think about COVID and their choices related to this virus.

This community on WS has taken a pro-science viewpoint at almost every turn.

My background in medical anthropology is actually in psychiatric anthropology (including field diagnosis and epidemiology).
 
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I pity any oncology patients or employees at a hospital in Salem Oregon with whom this nurse came in contact! Unbelievable!

A Salem Health nurse has been placed on administrative leave following a viral TikTok where she stated that she did not wear a mask out in public away from work and let her children engage in play dates.

The original TikTok from user Loveiskind05 was deleted, however, a duet of her original video, where another user is reacting to her video, has more than 240,000 likes and more than 5,000 comments after only approximately 24 hours.

Video in article and photo of nurse.
Salem Health nurse on leave after TikTok video | king5.com
 
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What if a majority of those people already had Covid? They are not going to catch it again? And spread it? My kids have all had Covid now, they are over it. Is there a reason why people who have had Covid should stay home?
My cousin had Covid around the first of October and it took several tries for him to test negative, not sure why?
He was going to fly to see his girlfriend but didn’t because he wasn’t sure if his immune system was weakened making him prone to pick up other viruses.
Plus he had used all of his PTO while he was out sick/recovery. He gets another two weeks starting in April.

He thought about making a covid survivor mask!
 
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Iowa numbers today and recent news: As of 10:00-11:00 a.m., we had 1,200 new "confirmed" cases of which 132,210 are recovering (+1,111). 28 more were reported to have passed for a total of 2,403. According to KWWL there are 94,383 active postive cases with a 24 hr. positivity rate of 39.6%. There were 138 hospitalized in the last 24 hrs. for a total of 1,162 (-13).
Nov. 30: Iowa reports 1,200 new cases, 28 more deaths
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Sen. Chuck Grassley completes quarantine after testing positive for COVID-19
IN THEIR OWN WORDS: Front line health care heroes describe the fight against COVID-19 at Waterloo Hospitals
* On a side note, I'm not sure how other counties in Iowa are recording recoveries, but the county that I live in has consistently had about 153 more recoveries recorded over what IDPH has for several weeks now while another county has the exact same number. Because of this, there IMO is more recoveries that what the news is reporting on a daily basis most likely for a majority of the counties in Iowa. Active postive cases IMO are most likely less.
 
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What a way to end November!! :eek:

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S.C. reports nearly 1,200 new COVID-19 cases, jump in percent-positive
"For the 13th consecutive time, the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control reported more than 1,000 new confirmed COVID-19 cases in South Carolina.

It also reported a six percentage point increase in the daily percent-positive rate."

203,659 confirmed positive cases (+1,174)
4,077 confirmed deaths (+27)

Total Tests Received - 2,707,337
Percent Positive - 18.0% :eek:
 
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I pity any oncology patients or employees at a hospital in Salem Oregon with whom this nurse came in contact! Unbelievable!

A Salem Health nurse has been placed on administrative leave following a viral TikTok where she stated that she did not wear a mask out in public away from work and let her children engage in play dates.

The original TikTok from user Loveiskind05 was deleted, however, a duet of her original video, where another user is reacting to her video, has more than 240,000 likes and more than 5,000 comments after only approximately 24 hours.

Video in article and photo of nurse.
Salem Health nurse on leave after TikTok video | king5.com

OMG! :eek:
 
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Face the Nation / Excellent broadcast, imo:


 
  • #630
Interesting, I just called our veterinarian, apparently they are not taking any animals in for boarding due to Covid and potential spread with animals.
 
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dbm
 
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The lack of testing supplies and people to conduct testing and people to run lab samples and lab space and on and on certainly had nothing to do with the FDA. Once the FDA approved emergency use tests, the Defense Production Act IMO should’ve been used to the fullest extent possible to get things done. From what I read here, there are places that STILL struggle with test kits. We don’t have that issue here in a major metro area of Texas, but other places do according to some of the posters here. There’s no reason for that at this point IMO. And it absolutely has nothing to do with the FDA. I do hope things will run more smoothly and expeditiously than it did with testing, but the excuses seem to already be flowing as to why it’s going to take many months.







Covid-19 vaccines may hurt. CDC's ACIP says people need to know this upfront - CNN


“Nurses were also a concern. One survey showed that while nurses agreed vaccines were likely to be safe and effective, only 34% would voluntarily get vaccinated, Oliver said.”

The unwillingness of the majority of nurses I know of across a dozen states is in line with the above statistics. Most are willing to get vaccinated eventually, but right now? Not a chance. These are men and women I’ve known and worked with for a decade or more in most cases.



Anecdotally, the teachers I know, which are far fewer in quantity than the number of nurses and doctors and allied health professionals I know, are mostly more than eager to be vaccinated. The medical professionals I know are almost all very pro-vaccine. But they are for the most part extremely reluctant, to completely unwilling, to get vaccinated for covid right away. I also anecdotally estimate approximately 50% of nurses I know don’t vaccinate for the flu. That number jumps even higher for rehab professionals that I know.

The association between vaccination confidence, vaccination behavior, and willingness to recommend vaccines among Finnish healthcare workers
Interesting. I would think the thought process and beliefs are different among US medical professionals for a variety of reasons. It’s just what I’ve seen, so the survey results weren’t at all surprising to me.



See link above. But honestly, at the end of the day, I know hundreds of nurses personally, and the above survey numbers are entirely in line with what I hear being discussed at work when the subject comes up. Not sure what other “facts” I would need to base my concision on... it’s not like I pulled it out of my behind after talking to a couple of nurses.

I just don't think CNN's position on this is as well-researched as the links I posted, which show that the vast majority of HCW's are in favor of the vaccine. You said "most of the nurses" you know are vaccine-adverse or hesitant and I don't disagree - I'm just saying that this is likely regional and that it is not true of all nurses everywhere.

I too know a lot of nurses and have been teaching a required course in the nursing school for 30 years...but I wouldn't base my views on the topic merely on what the nurses I know might say (naturally, a lot of the nurses I know are connected to a university, which is a different population).

I prefer to go with actual studies on the topic, and still see no evidence anywhere that "most" nurses or HCW's are unfavorable to the vaccine. We shall soon learn, I believe, whether HCW's in infectious disease wards and nursing homes will take the vaccine or not. There are so many variables that will affect the actual choices - what people say they'll do and what they actually do in future are almost always two different things.

If I ran a nursing home, I wouldn't want any LVN's or RN's working there (or other HCW's) unless they'd had the vaccine. Most states in the US are at will employment states, so I suspect that if a vaccine is required, many will take it. Anxiety over a vaccine is normal. But to conflate anxiety and talking about vaccines with the real behavior of people regarding vaccines is premature, IMO.
 
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My cousin had Covid around the first of October and it took several tries for him to test negative, not sure why?
He was going to fly to see his girlfriend but didn’t because he wasn’t sure if his immune system was weakened making him prone to pick up other viruses.
Plus he had used all of his PTO while he was out sick/recovery. He gets another two weeks starting in April.

He thought about making a covid survivor mask!

Short answer is that people take varying amounts of time to clear (active) virions from their system. The longest time I've read about is 70 days for one woman and 72 days for one man. Both were elderly, IIRC.

It's actually a concerning situation. Where I live, so many COVID-positive patients are sent home to isolate for 10-14 days (usually 14), but many of them never go back to get retested. I have asked our director of Public Health what constitutes a "closed case" and not gotten an answer (but one of his employees says they close out the "non severe" cases 14 days after diagnosis.

Non-severe means "never hospitalized."

Obviously, this provides no data whatsoever on whether these people are still contagious (and we have a very high number of "community spread/unknown origin" cases here.
 
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Dr. Fauci did an interview with Chuck Todd yesterday (worth a watch; also @nightowl1975 , vaccine prioritization and mobilization is discussed), and he basically said how important it is to be testing asymptomatics:

BBM

Seems like a no-brainer to me. Why else would we (in my country) be testing thousands of people any time we have a little outbreak?

You have to find each and every potential source, isolate them until they are non-infectious. Have them test negative before coming out of quarantine.

It is a huge undertaking but it is the only way to stop the spread.

Unfortunately, with close to 70% of people refusing to respond to contact tracers it is yet another thing that is proving impossible in the US.


https://twitter.com/GovMurphy/status/1333460689231482889
@GovMurphy:

Contact Tracing Update: We now have approximately 3,000 contact tracers on the ground.
Nearly 70% of individuals refuse to cooperate with our contact tracers.
This is not a witch hunt. This is about protecting you, your loved ones, and your community.
Take the call.
 
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