Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #89

[mickey2942]

75 infected with COVID-19 after Santa visits nursing home in Belgium

Merry Covid Christmas!

 

[SouthAussie]

Do we have any intel on what China is doing as far as vaccines?

Yes, there are recent articles out there ... about both China and Russia.

China's vaccine is called Sinopharm. (They have a few others in development also.) There has been an adverse effect though, so Peru has stopped trials of it at the moment. Arab nations are taking it up.

China's Sinopharm Covid vaccine: how effective is it and where will it be rolled out?
Arab nations first to approve Chinese COVID vaccine — despite lack of public data


Russia's vaccine is called Sputnik. They hope to vaccinate most of the Russian population in 2021.

Russia's Covid Vaccine Sputnik Shows 91.4% Efficacy In New Trial: Report

 

[Reasonable & Just]

75 infected with COVID-19 after Santa visits nursing home in Belgium

Merry Covid Christmas!

Oh wow. This sounds disastrous

 

[margarita25]

Vaccine comes too late for the 300,000 US dead

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

75 infected with COVID-19 after Santa visits nursing home in Belgium

Merry Covid Christmas!

Oh for goodness sake, who on earth thought that was a good idea?!

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Yes, there are recent articles out there ... about both China and Russia.

China's vaccine is called Sinopharm. (They have a few others in development also.) There has been an adverse effect though, so Peru has stopped trials of it at the moment. Arab nations are taking it up.

China's Sinopharm Covid vaccine: how effective is it and where will it be rolled out?
Arab nations first to approve Chinese COVID vaccine — despite lack of public data


Russia's vaccine is called Sputnik. They hope to vaccinate most of the Russian population in 2021.

Russia's Covid Vaccine Sputnik Shows 91.4% Efficacy In New Trial: Report

Funded by the Russian Direct Investment Fund who is trying to market it overseas. I wonder if this played a role in our own purchasing decisions. I remember all the hype back in the the fall and wondered if we'd purchase from them. Russia’s claim of a successful COVID-19 vaccine doesn’t pass the ‘smell test,’ critics say (Science, from back in Nov).

 

[sds71]

Crede Bailey was most severely ill among dozens of cases known to be connected to WH. “Crede beat COVID-19 but it came at a significant cost: his big toe on his left foot as well as his right foot and lower leg had to be amputated,” friend says:

White House Official Recovers From Severe Covid-19, Friend Says

 

[dmac55]

While I agree with you (especially the setting a good example part), I think the staffers will have access to the magic elixir if things get too bad for them.

Yes
I didn't think about that part, and I agree with you

 

[ilovewings]

I tbink I need some clarification. Am i to understand that the vaccine does not
prevent a person from contracting the virus, but rather prevents a person
from getting a more severe illness-- that is what I think I heard one of the
doctors saying on TV?

 

[SouthAussie]

I tbink I need some clarification. Am i to understand that the vaccine does not
prevent a person from contracting the virus, but rather prevents a person
from getting a more severe illness-- that is what I think I heard one of the
doctors saying on TV?

Yes. That is what I have read everywhere. They are 'not sure' if the vaccines will prevent a person from getting the virus. There has not yet been a long enough testing period.
They do know the vaccines provide your system with the ammo to fight the symptoms of the virus. They 'hope' that there will be a prevention aspect to the vaccines.

Masks and social distancing - for those who are sensible imo - are not going to go away for quite a while.

 

[dmac55]

I tbink I need some clarification. Am i to understand that the vaccine does not
prevent a person from contracting the virus, but rather prevents a person
from getting a more severe illness-- that is what I think I heard one of the
doctors saying on TV?

I have read/heard similar
That after the vaccine, if you would become infected with Covid-19, it would be less severe

My loose understanding is they don't know everything yet
Following AARP FAQs snippet outlines some of those things

If a vaccine is not 100 percent effective, can I still get COVID-19?

That may be the case, although more details on the vaccine’s effectiveness should emerge in the third phase of clinical trials and in post-trial surveillance. And “that’s something that the recipients will have to understand when they get the vaccine,” Schaffner says. “The vaccine provides protection, but it won’t be like a suit of armor.”

It's also unclear whether the vaccine can block transmission of the virus while providing protection against the illness. Another unknown: how long that protection lasts.

What You Should Know About A COVID-19 Vaccine
What You Should Know About A COVID-19 Vaccine


My tenuous understanding at this time

 

[SouthAussie]

I am super-confused about that as well. I read it yesterday.
Will Moderna be ready soon and that is where the other doses are supposedly coming from?

Moderna Says First COVID Vaccine Shots Could Be Ready by December 21

Just adding to my own post ... it is the Moderna vaccine that is anticipated to increase the US vaccination numbers.


The FDA is also releasing a data assessment this week for Moderna’s vaccine and reviewing the company’s request for emergency use authorization. If approved, Moderna’s vaccine could be administered as early as Dec. 21 and help the U.S. provide 20 million vaccinations in December, 50 million by the end of January and 100 million by the end of February.
The U.S. Covid death toll tops 300,000 as vaccine distribution begins

 

[anneg]

Yes. That is what I have read everywhere. They are 'not sure' if the vaccines will prevent a person from getting the virus. There has not yet been a long enough testing period.
They do know the vaccines provide your system with the ammo to fight the symptoms of the virus. They 'hope' that there will be a prevention aspect to the vaccines.

Masks and social distancing - for those who are sensible imo - are not going to go away for quite a while.

From What You Need To Know As The First COVID-19 Vaccine Heads Your Way

If I get vaccinated, can I go back to life as normal?

No, not right away. Studies of the new vaccines only measured whether vaccinated people developed symptoms, not whether they got infected. It's possible that they got light infections — not enough to make them ill, but enough to pass the virus on to others. "That's why I tell people when you get vaccinated, continue wearing your mask," Carlos Del Rio, a vaccine scientist at Emory University who helped test the Moderna vaccine, recently told NPR. "We're going to know later if the vaccine actually prevents infection."

The CDC is calling for those who are immunized to continue wearing masks and practicing safe physical distancing until more is learned. "Experts need to understand more about the protection that COVID-19 vaccines provide before deciding to change recommendations," as well as how many people are getting vaccinated and whether the virus is still spreading in communities, it says in an FAQ.

 

[margarita25]

From What You Need To Know As The First COVID-19 Vaccine Heads Your Way

If I get vaccinated, can I go back to life as normal?

No, not right away. Studies of the new vaccines only measured whether vaccinated people developed symptoms, not whether they got infected. It's possible that they got light infections — not enough to make them ill, but enough to pass the virus on to others. "That's why I tell people when you get vaccinated, continue wearing your mask," Carlos Del Rio, a vaccine scientist at Emory University who helped test the Moderna vaccine, recently told NPR. "We're going to know later if the vaccine actually prevents infection."

The CDC is calling for those who are immunized to continue wearing masks and practicing safe physical distancing until more is learned. "Experts need to understand more about the protection that COVID-19 vaccines provide before deciding to change recommendations," as well as how many people are getting vaccinated and whether the virus is still spreading in communities, it says in an FAQ.

You read my mind, I was going to post the same thing that mask wearing will still be recommended after vaccination.

 

[MimosaMornings]

NC

First COVID-19 vaccine arrives in Charlotte Monday | wcnc.com

 

[SoCalDavidS]

75 infected with COVID-19 after Santa visits nursing home in Belgium

Merry Covid Christmas!

This year, Santa brought me a deadly virus.

Why would anyone in a nursing home care about Santa?

No wonder that Belgium is still the #1 Worldwide in terms of Per Capita Deaths.

 

[Cool Cats]

Head of White House security office has his right foot amputated because of severe COVID-19 and is facing 'staggering medical bills,' new report says

• The head of the White House security office, Crede Bailey, had a part of his lower right leg and the big toe of his left foot amputated because of COVID-19, Bloomberg reported on Monday.
  
  
• Bailey has been hospitalized with a severe case of COVID-19 for three months but is said to be recovering.
  
  
• Friends of Bailey's have raised over $35,000 through a GoFundMe campaign to help pay for his rehabilitation and "staggering" healthcare costs.
  

 

[ilovewings]

You read my mind, I was going to post the same thing that mask wearing will still be recommended after vaccination.

I am concerned that many people won't understand why they still need to wear masks even when they get the vaccine- and maintain social distancing and hand washing. Sadly, this pandemic has revealed that too many people are really, how can I say this kindly, not to swift in the brains department.

 

[MsArk]

My state’s head medical officer, Dr Thomas Dobbs, received the vaccine on FB Live earlier today. There are now photos of it on the MS Dept of Health FB page. The nurse giving him the shot is not wearing gloves and there are over 1,500 comments about the no glove situation. Many are saying “fake news” “no gloves, no shot”.

We can’t win for losing here in the Deep South!

 

[dmac55]

My state’s head medical officer, Dr Thomas Dobbs, received the vaccine on FB Live earlier today. There are now photos of it on the MS Dept of Health FB page. The nurse giving him the shot is not wearing gloves and there are over 1,500 comments about the no glove situation. Many are saying “fake news” “no gloves, no shot”.

We can’t win for losing here in the Deep South!

I understand the concern
Even though I spent my career as a nurse, i looked it up to be sure

"Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) regulations do not require gloves to be worn when administering vaccinations, unless persons administering vaccinations have open lesions on their hands or are likely to come into contact with a patient’s body fluids."

ACIP Vaccine Administration Guidelines for Immunization | Recommendations | CDC
ACIP Vaccine Administration Guidelines for Immunization | Recommendations | CDC.

Edited to remove my plethora of opinions