Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #89

[BUF]

Wondering if as a CS, he does not have the option of receiving the vaccination? speculation, imo.

Scientologists do accept medical treatment. You may be thinking of Christian Scientists who don’t.

Official Church of Scientology: Position on Medical Treatment & Doctors treating the Ill and Injured

 

[margarita25]

What parents need to know about how COVID-19 impacts kids’ brains

“Even with hope on the horizon amid a growing list of vaccines beginning to roll out, Song wants other parents to know the long-term effects of the virus on children. Bodi fully recovered from his MIS-C symptoms about four weeks after developing the illness. He has since excelled in school and graduated into the fourth grade along with his peers.

“Parents should be on the lookout for severe changes in their child’s ability to stay on task in school in the weeks after being diagnosed with COVID,” Song, who trained at Stanford, New York University and the University of California, San Francisco, told The Post. “If your child suddenly has trouble starting and completing homework assignments, remembering things they just learned, or if they get easily frustrated by the slightest changes to their schedules, these might be indicators the inflammation to the brain is affecting their cognitive capabilities.”“

[...]

“Although data is still limited on MIS-C, Song said recent research on Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Adults (MIS-A) shows that there are potentially long-term cognitive-deficit complications that stem from the illness in grown-ups.”

 

[Yvettea]

What would you say to someone who believes there’s no way you can see any long term effects in the time it took to develop the vaccine? What if they raise the issue of DES (on the market for over ten years and may have caused fertility issues in the following two generations! This vaccine warns of fertility issues. Other drugs have caused loss of limbs in babies that were given to pregnant mothers. Again over ten years to pull the drug. They plan on giving this to pregnant woman. Kids! Warning against giving it to people with allergies and recommending not getting it and especially if you have had an anaphylactic reaction. What if they claim there is no way in the time they had to do a proper trial; what we will see is people dying of natural causes again seeing how heart attack is on there.

These are concerns I’ve seen voiced online.

 

[BUF]

Love this response...

https://twitter.com/JReinerMD/status/1339283824254078981

Asked a patient if he was going to get the coronavirus vaccine when it’s available to him. He said, “Of course. I want to write history, not be a victim of it.”

 

[ilovewings]

Alaska healthcare worker suffered serious allergic reaction from Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine | Daily Mail Online

Healthcare worker in Alaska suffers allergic reaction to the injection:
it is said she has no history of allergies-- she is allegedly doing well now after
treatement

 

[SouthAussie]

This memorandum describes evidence recently obtained by the Select Subcommittee showing that a Trump Administration appointee at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Senior Advisor Paul Alexander, privately strategized with other top Administration officials as far back as June 2020 about pursuing a so-called “herd immunity” strategy in response to the coronavirus pandemic. Dr. Alexander explicitly endorsed allowing the disease to spread widely among “nfants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle aged with no conditions etc.,” writing, “we use them to develop herd…we want them infected.”
Staff Report re Political Messaging and Herd Immunity.pdf (house.gov)

Well, this part is backfiring badly now, in their herd immunity strategy.

"hospitals are NOW geared, PPE in place, ICUs beds are on the ready, doctors and nurses alert, the syndrome is crystalized"

They forgot to think about capacity.

Interesting that it is a Congress of the US - House of Representatives - memorandum. Are they now officially saying that they are aware that the herd immunity strategy was being secretly pursued, that scientists were being purposefully denigrated, and providing the evidence?

 

[ilovewings]

New Covid strain has 17 mutations, scientist say | Daily Mail Online

New Covid strain- 17 mutations---

At the end of the article it is stated this new mutation should not effect the vaccines

 

[sds71]

Well, this part is backfiring badly now, in their herd immunity strategy.
hospitals are NOW geared, PPE in place, ICUs beds are on the ready, doctors and nurses alert, the syndrome is crystalized"They forgot to think about capacity.
Interesting that it is a Congress of the US - House of Representatives - memorandum. Are they now officially saying that they are aware that the herd immunity strategy was being secretly pursued, that scientists were being purposefully denigrated, and providing the evidence?

These are parts of HHS documents the House asked for several months ago but the WH only recently released.

‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy, emails reveal

Clyburn said the subcommittee is still waiting for documents that it requested on Sept. 14. In his letter, he also threatened to subpoena HHS and CDC if they didn’t comply with his subcommittee’s ongoing probe.
CDC’s Redfield told staff to delete email, official tells House watchdog

 

[dixiegirl1035]

What would you say to someone who believes there’s no way you can see any long term effects in the time it took to develop the vaccine? What if they raise the issue of DES (on the market for over ten years and may have caused fertility issues in the following two generations! This vaccine warns of fertility issues. Other drugs have caused loss of limbs in babies that were given to pregnant mothers. Again over ten years to pull the drug. They plan on giving this to pregnant woman. Kids! Warning against giving it to people with allergies and recommending not getting it and especially if you have had an anaphylactic reaction. What if they claim there is no way in the time they had to do a proper trial; what we will see is people dying of natural causes again seeing how heart attack is on there.

These are concerns I’ve seen voiced online.

It's a good thing that you are here with us and see that those concerns could be baseless?

I too don't know how to react to folks who don't want to discuss and challenge others respectfully as we do here. e.g. the vaccines specifically state not for pregnant women, so where do folks say "they plan on giving this to pregnant women". There was a small number who got pregnant with the studies... but where are you seeing such exclamation.

Yes, even Fauci said best to work around vaccine and getting infected as he doesn't want it thrown back. But with an mRNA.. as the first two are... it never gets inside the DNA of the mother as some that are upcoming are.

As to loss of limbs with babies, are they talking about the 1950's drug?

 

[LadyL]

I couldn't make this crap up:

Two mothers face charges after renting party bus and cramming 60 maskless kids inside for child's birthday

 

[margarita25]

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[SouthAussie]

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The good thing about Angela Merkell is that she is a scientist. So she uses science based approaches to quelling the virus.
As opposed to the leaders who are not scientists, or who don't listen to their own scientists.


She obtained a doctorate in quantum chemistry in 1986 and worked as a research scientist until 1989.
Angela Merkel - Wikipedia.

 

[margarita25]

Former Swiss president Cotti dies, reportedly from Covid-19

 

[margarita25]

The good thing about Angela Merkell is that she is a scientist. So she uses science based approaches to quelling the virus.
As opposed to the leaders who are not scientists, or who don't listen to their own scientists.

She obtained a doctorate in quantum chemistry in 1986 and worked as a research scientist until 1989.
Angela Merkel - Wikipedia.

And one can see the trickle effect of her positive leadership upon the German citizens, at least in that video. The two interviewed seem to understand that this is a matter of public health. What a concept.

 

[anneg]

I wish was more in MSM, yet if that was done, there would be a run on them and the companies/insurance/hospitals aren't set up for the outcry that would result?

Both these need to be given ASAP... yet there has been crickets on such? I need to recall what Dr. C and Dr. S have said.

It's getting crowded up in my brain these days.

Monoclonal antibodies: A Covid-19 treatment people might not know about - CNN

Monoclonal antibodies: A Covid-19 treatment people might not know about

There are very few drugs that prevent people with early Covid-19 from progress to severe disease, but monoclonal antibodies may be among them.

Early study results show they may reduce the rate of hospitalizations by up to 70% if they are taken in time, which can be life-saving, especially among people who are at high risk of getting very sick.
But it seems that the word is not getting out to those who need the medications the most, or their health care providers.

Eli Lilly's monoclonal antibody, called bamlanivimab, received an emergency use authorization from the US Food and Drug Administration in early November. Less than two weeks later, the agency granted an EUA to Regeneron's monoclonal antibody cocktail, made up of two monoclonal antibodies, casirivimab and imdevimab, and called REGEN-COV2. It was given to President Trump when he got infected at the start of October. Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson were also treated with monoclonal antibody therapy.

[More at link.]

 

[MimosaMornings]

I'm not a fan of it either. IMO everyone should just do Christmas in their own home. It's one time, it's not like it will never ever be Christmas again.

Unfortunately it feels like it is. Especially when you have family members that won’t be here next Christmas. Not seeing anyone for almost a year has been affected them mentally as well as physically. JMO

 

[acutename]

I was just watching seniors getting vaccinated at a Florida long term facility as Desantis stood by. I wondered “Will they get their second shot in three weeks?”

Desantis abruptly left and refused to answer reporter’s questions again.

FWIW, when I got Shingrix (also 2 shots 3-9 mos apart if I recall correctly), when you get the first shot, another dose is set aside for you - I think actually marked with an identifier for you- and they require you to schedule shot 2 at the time of shot 1 and they follow up with you about it. Obvi the supply and maintenance of this vaccine is different, but they might be using the same type of software to administer it.

 

[acutename]

I do think that now that this is coming out, it will educate MANY as to the reason that vaccines give these symptoms afterwards as so many have said "the vaccine gave me the flu".

More education for the masses in that this is a NORMAL reaction of the immune system, especially when 100% cannot give the COVID disease with the mRNA's. MOO (If the mRNA smmmmmaaaaaallll piece of a few AA's gave such, we would know by now with the trials)

A good reason why many of the vaccines are for DIFFERENT parts of the virus. As I have read and IIRC, the mRNA vaccines are for different parts of the spike protein. Can it be assumed that J&J and AstraZeneca are also for different AA sequences?

Does anyone have a link of comparisons that they have saved as I think I 've read such for 3, but have no idea where to find that information in my history or on the threads as I don't think I posted such at the time.

vaccine info tracker

https://www.av.co/covid-vaccines

 

[acutename]

Different target sites for their vaccines on the spike area of the virus. You need to do x2 on the same site to "boost". MOO

More reasons such as how were approved and need to keep to the protocols that were approved. There will be future studies I've read, but for now... think of that as the #1 reason.

am sure they are keeping close tabs on reactions at this point- still collecting data. would not want for a person to have a reaction and not know why.

 

[acutename]

Someone upthread told me that each state tracks immunizations. I looked up for my state and got a copy. It's REQUIRED to be reported immediately the COVID vaccines, (for most states since the 90's?) and all hospitals and pharmacies can "see" your records on site prior to injections.

when I get a flu vaccine, not from my dr., I am issued a paper with the date, vaccine, lot#, manufacturer, who administered it, etc. If there were something wrong with the vaccine, there is a record of everything.