Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #92

[SouthAussie]

Israel is starting to have issues with people uptaking the vaccine.
They started off incredibly well. At risk persons getting vaccinated quickly. 67.4 out of every 100 people vaccinated.

Now they are at the younger people, and the numbers are way down. Half of what they have been.


“There was greater cooperation among the at-risk populations,” Kaye added. “Right now we’re reaching out to the younger public, and some people don’t understand the vaccine’s importance. Unfortunately, the fake news on social media and in the press is doing damage. People aren’t sufficiently afraid of the coronavirus because they aren’t familiar with what it causes.”

And possible bad news for herd immunity for them.

"Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, the head of public health services in the Health Ministry, said, “Since there are 2.5 million children who cannot be vaccinated, we likely will not reach herd immunity, even if the entire rest of the population gets vaccinated.”"

Vaccine drive slowed by 50%, official laments, blaming online ‘fake news’

 

[dixiegirl1035]

The new initiative will roll out over the coming months with pilot programs launching in several U.S. cities, including Chicago, Atlanta, Houston and El Paso.

Walgreens, Uber Partner to Offer Free Rides to COVID Vaccine Appointments – NBC Chicago
Walgreens, Uber Partner to Offer Free Rides to COVID Vaccine Appointments

I'm thinking "huh?". At this time, with it being 10 degrees in some areas, there is no fricken way I would risk getting in a closed car with a stranger with rolled up recirculating air to travel ANYWHERE. Heck, I don't even think I would consider going with a friend at allllll in my car at this time in that situation. And if they are traveling to a center far away/long wait in car, or.... well, you get my drift.

I do applaud that folks are thinking about helping underserved communities, although Not a good idea MOO by Uber and Walgreens, other than PR?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

wonder if they could develop a test to predict this reaction... expect that they are working on it

Hoping that includes genetics testing, as this may be something to consider. $$$ to know ahead of time if so that you are vulnerable (unless associated with a herediatry disease/condition that many are self aware that they have e.g. sickle cell.. not saying sickle cell is it, just that most who have sickle cell know they do, and if they are possibly a carrier as an example)

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Iowa numbers today: As of 10:00-11:00 a.m., we had 261 new confirmed cases for a total of 324,666 confirmed cases of which 294,119 are recovering (+521). 2 more were reported to have passed for a total of 5,110. 34 were hospitalized in the last 24 hrs. for a total of 318 (+2). Feb. 8: Iowa reports 261 new COVID-19 cases, 2 additional deaths
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Iowa ranks last in U.S. in COVID-19 vaccine administration

Well thats no good. But it is the supply issue.
I am starting to be "hopeful" that we are going to be getting streamlined with this process and achieve more success more quickly.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

It doesn't scare me at all.
My 84 yr old dad got the Moderna vaccine.
ZERO- ANYTHING
He didn't even feel the needle.
IMO the deaths were not due to the shot.
Perhaps the shot caused stress on their system, Maybe a rise in blood pressure/ or a fall.
MOO

Ha, speaking of blood pressure.. I went to doctor (N95, cloth over, shield over that!) on an outing after hibernating (second dose of Shingrex). The nurse did the normal weight, bp, heart rate etc. She said I had 110. I said oh, I usually have a blood pressure of 100 over x. She said "no, that's not your bp, that's your heart rate" (mine is usually in high 50's/low 60's...) I laughed and said yeah, I don't wanna be here and this is a severe case perhaps of "white coat syndrome".. where someone goes to the doc and get a panic attack. I was quickly given the dose and off I went.

Today, I am going to another doc for my female exam which is wayyyyyyyyy overdue. I'll be interested in what my bp and heart rate is today.

Israel is starting to have issues with people uptaking the vaccine.
They started off incredibly well. At risk persons getting vaccinated quickly. 67.4 out of every 100 people vaccinated.

Now they are at the younger people, and the numbers are way down. Half of what they have been.


“There was greater cooperation among the at-risk populations,” Kaye added. “Right now we’re reaching out to the younger public, and some people don’t understand the vaccine’s importance. Unfortunately, the fake news on social media and in the press is doing damage. People aren’t sufficiently afraid of the coronavirus because they aren’t familiar with what it causes.”

And possible bad news for herd immunity for them.

"Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, the head of public health services in the Health Ministry, said, “Since there are 2.5 million children who cannot be vaccinated, we likely will not reach herd immunity, even if the entire rest of the population gets vaccinated.”"

Vaccine drive slowed by 50%, official laments, blaming online ‘fake news’

There is probably hesitancy by normal MSM reports which I've seen discussed. (e.g. just one, Now, expectations are folks wanting above 90%)

I do have a question/conversation starter for this knowledgeable group.

All the vaccines are reducing hospitalizations, and assume many are now "asymptomatic" infections moreso? That said... how are we to move forward if folks are passing forward while in this stages as to adding to numbers longer term that are vaccinated?

ETA: If you get a vaccine, most common symptom of course if the hurting upper sore arm at vaccination site. If you are a side sleeper ONLY like I am.. get the shot on the opposite side of which you normally go to sleep.

PSA to help some folks get some zzzzzzz's as I made the mistake of saying the opposite arm that I write with (pffft, I don't write anymore! I just tippy type on computer).... and that arm was the downside of how I sleep on side... Too painful so tossed and turned the next 2 nights

 

[ilovewings]

Most may know this, but I don’t think I’ve posted here that my Covid progressed to the point that I landed in the hospital last Thursday with Covid pneumonia (as opposed to Covid without respiratory symptoms) and low O2. That was my “golden ticket” to get a hospital bed. Otherwise they send you home to be miserable since there’s nothing they can do.

I had hoped the monoclonal antibody treatment would help keep me out of the hospital, as that’s the goal, but I think it at least kept my symptoms from getting a lot worse. I hadn’t eaten anything but applesauce for a week and wanted to sleep all the time, my O2 dipped to 88-89%, so my husband called 911 and sent me off to ER. The small 49 bed local hospital in our town handles the regular Covid cases in a wing with about 10 beds, and the ICU patients go to the larger 375 bed hospital 12 miles away.

I had “presidential treatment.” Antiviral Remdesevir daily IV for five days, steroid dexamethosone, blood thinner to prevent clots, inhaled treatments twice daily by a respiratory therapist and a PT. I was on O2, reduced from 3L to 1.5L. Most of my nurses were “travelers” (Chicago, Utah, Michigan, Louisiana) and were wonderful. Interestingly, my respiratory therapist told me that 95% of her patients have no idea where they got Covid. If only half are truthful, that’s still scary! So please be careful!!

I came home today, without needing home O2, thankfully. The doctor put me on a 1/2 dose of a blood thinner (not Coumadin) for 7 days to prevent the little clots that are common with Covid. He said my cough and exhaustion could last for weeks. My husband is still exhausted and coughing but his O2 is good, so we will recuperate together.

I’m very grateful for the amazing care I received in our rural county in southern Oregon, and that things didn’t go downhill. I had been afraid since last March that if I got Covid it would kill me because of mild asthma, controlled high blood pressure, overweight and age (75), but I’m still here! I can’t emphasize enough the need to increase precautions, especially with the U.K. mutation spreading rapidly. Don’t get casual! Hugs to all!

So glad you are home and on the mend- You have certainly been through a lot----Thank goodness you received top of the line care, which is so important.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Wednesday, Feb 10th

3,131 US deaths

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[dmac55]

I'm thinking "huh?". At this time, with it being 10 degrees in some areas, there is no fricken way I would risk getting in a closed car with a stranger with rolled up recirculating air to travel ANYWHERE. Heck, I don't even think I would consider going with a friend at allllll in my car at this time in that situation. And if they are traveling to a center far away/long wait in car, or.... well, you get my drift.

I do applaud that folks are thinking about helping underserved communities, although Not a good idea MOO by Uber and Walgreens, other than PR?

I didn't even think of that
I agree with you

 

[sds71]

We know that universal masking works,” said John T. Brooks, medical officer for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s covid-19 response. “And now these variants are circulating … whatever we can do to improve the fit of a mask to make it work better, the faster we can end this pandemic.”
CDC urges to double mask or to wear masks that fit - The Washington Post

 

[weepingangel]

I’ve been pleasantly surprised to see the occasional double masker in the wild in the past month or so . Just when I think nobody is paying attention to the experts.

We know that universal masking works,” said John T. Brooks, medical officer for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s covid-19 response. “And now these variants are circulating … whatever we can do to improve the fit of a mask to make it work better, the faster we can end this pandemic.”
CDC urges to double mask or to wear masks that fit - The Washington Post

 

[tabitha111]

I’ve been pleasantly surprised to see the occasional double masker in the wild in the past month or so . Just when I think nobody is paying attention to the experts.

I am the ONLY double masker in my 125 person retirement community.
I don't see many following the science here.
Going out of my apartment is like walking through a minefield, oh that one has his nose hanging out, over there she has a chin diaper, oh my, she doesn't even have a mask on her neck!
The director asked me if I would be interested in "helping" others here fill out a survey on the computers downstairs and I had to say no- there is no way I can do that safely- since a great majority of people here don't wear masks properly and I would be sitting very, very close to them. I thought it was ridiculous to even ask me...and today is the day they are doing them, I briefly walked by the area and yep, for some reason folks have to pull down their masks to fill out a survey- it boggles my mind!

 

[acutename]

I'm thinking "huh?". At this time, with it being 10 degrees in some areas, there is no fricken way I would risk getting in a closed car with a stranger with rolled up recirculating air to travel ANYWHERE. Heck, I don't even think I would consider going with a friend at allllll in my car at this time in that situation. And if they are traveling to a center far away/long wait in car, or.... well, you get my drift.

I do applaud that folks are thinking about helping underserved communities, although Not a good idea MOO by Uber and Walgreens, other than PR?

FWIW, for a lot of people without cars, their options would be mass transit or a $$$ taxi, so this might be "better than nothing." I think that most drivers have already assumed some risk and they clean their cars and wear masks. I think that there are probably "home bound" people who will not be able to get in any car. Not sure how anyone will deal with them.

 

[acutename]

Most may know this, but I don’t think I’ve posted here that my Covid progressed to the point that I landed in the hospital last Thursday with Covid pneumonia (as opposed to Covid without respiratory symptoms) and low O2. That was my “golden ticket” to get a hospital bed. Otherwise they send you home to be miserable since there’s nothing they can do.

I had hoped the monoclonal antibody treatment would help keep me out of the hospital, as that’s the goal, but I think it at least kept my symptoms from getting a lot worse. I hadn’t eaten anything but applesauce for a week and wanted to sleep all the time, my O2 dipped to 88-89%, so my husband called 911 and sent me off to ER. The small 49 bed local hospital in our town handles the regular Covid cases in a wing with about 10 beds, and the ICU patients go to the larger 375 bed hospital 12 miles away.

I had “presidential treatment.” Antiviral Remdesevir daily IV for five days, steroid dexamethosone, blood thinner to prevent clots, inhaled treatments twice daily by a respiratory therapist and a PT. I was on O2, reduced from 3L to 1.5L. Most of my nurses were “travelers” (Chicago, Utah, Michigan, Louisiana) and were wonderful. Interestingly, my respiratory therapist told me that 95% of her patients have no idea where they got Covid. If only half are truthful, that’s still scary! So please be careful!!

I came home today, without needing home O2, thankfully. The doctor put me on a 1/2 dose of a blood thinner (not Coumadin) for 7 days to prevent the little clots that are common with Covid. He said my cough and exhaustion could last for weeks. My husband is still exhausted and coughing but his O2 is good, so we will recuperate together.

I’m very grateful for the amazing care I received in our rural county in southern Oregon, and that things didn’t go downhill. I had been afraid since last March that if I got Covid it would kill me because of mild asthma, controlled high blood pressure, overweight and age (75), but I’m still here! I can’t emphasize enough the need to increase precautions, especially with the U.K. mutation spreading rapidly. Don’t get casual! Hugs to all!

wow.... so almost a week in the hospital even with the best treatments... hope that you continue to feel better. your post is well written so clearly your mind is 100%. Did you lose your sense of taste and smell? please stay safe and maybe with some food besides apple sauce, you will gain some strength back.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

FWIW, for a lot of people without cars, their options would be mass transit or a $$$ taxi, so this might be "better than nothing." I think that most drivers have already assumed some risk and they clean their cars and wear masks. I think that there are probably "home bound" people who will not be able to get in any car. Not sure how anyone will deal with them.

Its actually quite a logistical conundrum getting people to a vaccine if they cant drive. My mum does drive, but their car battery was flat due to it standing for so long. She was too anxious to have anyone round to fix it and also too anxious to drive. My dad no longer drives. So we carried out a family risk assessment to work out who was the least risk to drive them! My uncle won - shops at 7am to miss crowds and lives alone. It is actually quite a worry. Such a shame

 

[SoCalDavidS]

A new study - from institutions including Scripps Research Institute, Tulane University and Louisiana State University Health Shreveport - determined that a single person, likely traveling from Texas, brought COVID-19 into New Orleans for Carnival 2020. By Mardi Gras and Ash Wednesday, almost 800 people were likely infected, which led to 50,000 cases in Louisiana's first wave from March 9 to May 15. Infections were spread to other states, such as Texas, Mississippi and Alabama, but stay-at-home orders prevented the virus from spreading much further. This year, New Orleans is closing down bars from February 12 to February 17 and no establishment will be allowed to sell to-go alcoholic drinks.

Covid US: New Orleans' 2020 Mardi Gras led to 50k cases, study finds | Daily Mail Online

 

[SouthAussie]

Peter Daszak, a member of the WHO team, waded directly into the murky geopolitics that covers the pandemic origin story.

US President Joe Biden “has to look tough on China”, he said in a tweet, adding: “Please don’t rely too much on US intel: increasingly disengaged under Trump & frankly wrong on many aspects.”

In turn, China emphasised on Wednesday the Wuhan probe is just “one part” of an investigation into the origins of the coronavirus.
“We hope that the US, like China, will adopt an open and transparent attitude and invite WHO experts to carry out research and studies in the US,” said foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin.

Despite failing to find the origins of the virus a year after the pandemic began, the team of experts in China did agree it likely jumped from bats to an unknown animal species before transmitting to humans.

‘Frankly wrong’: WHO official derides US intelligence on COVID

 

[LadyL]

Risk of death 3.5 times higher for COVID-19 than influenza: CMAJ study

 

[MimosaMornings]

Fully vaccinated people can skip Covid quarantines, CDC says — CNN

"Fully vaccinated persons who meet criteria will no longer be required to quarantine following an exposure to someone with COVID-19," the CDC said in updates to its webpage with guidance on vaccination.

"Vaccinated persons with an exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 are not required to quarantine if they meet all of the following criteria," the CDC added.

The criteria: They must be fully vaccinated -- having had both shots with at least two weeks having passed since the second shot. That's because it takes two weeks to build full immunity after the second dose of vaccine.

But the CDC says protection may wear off after three months, so people who had their last shot three months ago or more should still quarantine if they are exposed.”

 

[onceuponadecember]

Has anyone else here had the covid vaccine yet? If so, is it relatively painful? (I have a horrible fear of painful needles, but I get vaccinated for my students)

 

[ilovewings]

Just got word on my COVID vaccine. I am getting my first dose on Thursday.

Good for you!!!!