Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #96

[TootsieFootsie]

Sorry you've lost me. I was making a comment about how Covid is affecting this area.

Toilet paper was never the issue. The real situation is how open populations are to herd immunity. It's almost as though vaccinations offer little more than a soft landing for some - not everyone.

 

[otto]

I don't know anyone who is angry. We are just plodding along through lockdown. We know how this works by now, many of us are already set up to work from home if we need to. And the sooner we get things under control, the better for us all.

I have seen one angry yobbo on TV (in Sydney) but you know how that goes with some people. MSM probably went looking for an angry person.

Wanting to blame someone for pandemic? What an odd idea.

USA has blamed Wuhan Labs, health minister Dr Fauci and at least two regional political parties. Sucks to be so narrow minded, eh.

 

[GRT]

Canada has Theresa Lam, Canadians assumed that Fauci was the same - federal health spokesperson in the USA.

What was Fauci? Trump's health expert puppet? Isn't he also Biden's health expert? Doesn't that mean that he is the non-political health expert?

Can that vast nation get it together enough to set politics aside for health?

Good points!

Everything is so politicized here, but--in my opinion--we haven't had any President who actually understands these issues--not at a working level. To be fair, they're all too busy to learn the nuts and bolts, so they depend on their advisors.

We have so many "agencies" and "institutes" that oversight can get lost.

 

[SouthAussie]

Wanting to blame someone for pandemic? What an odd idea.

USA has blamed Wuhan Labs, health minister Dr Fauci and at least two regional political parties. Sucks to be so narrow minded, eh.

No, the angry yobbo was just screaming at the TV camera that he needed to work. He wasn't blaming anyone. He evidently did not want to stay home, like many of us have to do at the moment. Until we get Delta under control.

He needed to relax a little. The govt has already kicked in special funds for people to claim, if they are losing wages.

 

[otto]

Sorry you've lost me. I was making a comment about how Covid is affecting this area.

Remember early Jan-Mar 2020 videos of Chinese stealing toilet paper? It's like China set the bar for toilet paper craziness at Walmart.

 

[GRT]

I don't know anyone who is angry. We are just plodding along through lockdown. We know how this works by now, many of us are already set up to work from home if we need to. And the sooner we get things under control, the better for us all.

I have seen one angry yobbo on TV (in Sydney) but you know how that goes with some people. MSM probably went looking for the angry person.

Australia has done a pretty great job of minimizing the spread of Covid and the death toll. In the long-run, that's all that matters.

There's always someone who is unhappy--but--in my experience, those folks are unhappy about virtually everything. They're just unhappy people.

Plus, sensationalism and condemning others is how some journalists gin-up sales.

 

[otto]

Good points!

Everything is so politicized here, but--in my opinion--we haven't had any President who actually understands these issues--not at a working level. To be fair, they're all too busy to learn the nuts and bolts, so they depend on their advisors.

We have so many "agencies" and "institutes" that oversight can get lost.

Someone needs to point out to the people of all political parties in the USA that Fauci is not Trump's monkey. He is the federal health minister. He must have been really scared of Trump to act so stupid so long. Fauci is like Canada's Thersa Tam, a federal health spokesperson.

 

[otto]

Australia has done a pretty great job of minimizing the spread of Covid and the death toll. In the long-run, that's all that matters.

There's always someone who is unhappy--but--in my experience, those folks are unhappy about virtually everything. They're just unhappy people.

Plus, sensationalism and condemning others is how some journalists gin-up sales.

Lockdowns happen with 7 covid cases. Great job, but not good enough.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

No I don't recall those videos.

What most people here were concerned about was the toilet paper and other groceries being stripped of the shelves here by greedy people.

It's something that seemed to happen in most countries and I don't think any one country started it off.

Remember early Jan-Mar 2020 videos of Chinese stealing toilet paper? It's like China set the bar for toilet paper craziness at Walmart.

 

[otto]

Sorry you've lost me. I was making a comment about how Covid is affecting this area.

Covid in all first countries sucks. Kudos to Australia for hitting lockdown fast and furious when there is a minor outbreak.

I'm of the opinion that minimizing the number of sick people is a good idea, particularly on an Island. <modsnip>

 

[SouthAussie]

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The issue was not isolated to Australia, it happened in the US, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, the UK, as well.

One article I read said it was a way of people feeling under control in an uncontrollable situation. It also said that people parrot other people, when they see some people stockpiling items, it makes them feel that they need to do that also.

The coronavirus outbreak has prompted people around the world to panic buy toilet paper. Here's why.

“It’s about ‘taking back control’ in a world where you feel out of control,” he said. “More generally, panic buying can be understood as playing to our three fundamental psychology needs.”
“People see photos of empty shelves and regardless of whether it’s rational it sends a signal to them that it’s the thing to do.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/heres-why-people-are-panic-buying-and-stockpiling-toilet-paper.html

 

[otto]

The issue was not isolated to Australia, it happened in the US, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, the UK, as well.

One article I read said it was a way of people feeling under control in an uncontrollable situation. It also said that people parrot other people, when they see some people stockpiling items, it makes them feel that they need to do that also.

The coronavirus outbreak has prompted people around the world to panic buy toilet paper. Here's why.

“It’s about ‘taking back control’ in a world where you feel out of control,” he said. “More generally, panic buying can be understood as playing to our three fundamental psychology needs.”
“People see photos of empty shelves and regardless of whether it’s rational it sends a signal to them that it’s the thing to do.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/heres-why-people-are-panic-buying-and-stockpiling-toilet-paper.html

Canadians are hopeful, that, no matter how painful it is, covid is snuffed at the border. The entire world arrogantly believed that they could stop an epidemic one case at a time. Perhaps Australia has it figured out.

Canada believed that the country could monitor self-reporting sick people. That obviously didn't work. Monitoring borders is the best option for protection.

 

[otto]

Islands have the best chance during pandemic.

 

[SouthAussie]

Islands have the best chance during pandemic.

While that should be true, it didn't hold for the UK ... which is an 'island'.

To my way of thinking it was, and is, all about travel. When the virus doesn't have a host to travel on, it has limited hosts to latch onto. Curtail the moving around, and you curtail the spread of the virus. Hence, the lockdowns.

(Australia is a continent. Sometimes called a continental island. It actually comprises of a mainland and Tasmania, and many islands dotted around the exterior of the continent.)

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I don't know anyone who is angry. We are just plodding along through lockdown. We know how this works by now, many of us are already set up to work from home if we need to. And the sooner we get things under control, the better for us all.

I have seen one angry yobbo on TV (in Sydney) but you know how that goes with some people. MSM probably went looking for the angry person.

If there was any anger at all, it might have been that Gladys (NSW) didn't lock down quickly enough, so a bit of the virus has crept out into a couple of other states. But I think we are even over that now. What's done is done, so we must do what we must do to contain this pesky virus.

Thats what I thought. I would feel the same too (not yobbo angry! Accepting)

 

[nhmemorymaker]

We better come together as we watch the possible horrors with children.... I just hate this feeling of "watching what is coming, and not knowing what to do about it"

"In children, less than 12 years of age, it was an 87% increase, and in those children who are 12 to 19 years of age, it was an 84% increase," explained Dr. Jason Salemi, associate professor of epidemiology at USF College of Public Health.

Florida doctors see 87% increase of COVID-19 cases in kids under 12

"Our last seven days, we've seen more patients than any other seven days since the pandemic began. So we're seeing a dramatic increase in kids," said Dr. Joseph Perno.

Children do tend to have more mild cases of coronavirus, doctors say, yet over the last month, hospitalizations statewide are also trending up, jumping from nearly 40 on July 1 to more than 100 last week.

 

[SouthAussie]

We better come together as we watch the possible horrors with children.... I just hate this feeling of "watching what is coming, and not knowing what to do about it"

"In children, less than 12 years of age, it was an 87% increase, and in those children who are 12 to 19 years of age, it was an 84% increase," explained Dr. Jason Salemi, associate professor of epidemiology at USF College of Public Health.

Florida doctors see 87% increase of COVID-19 cases in kids under 12

"Our last seven days, we've seen more patients than any other seven days since the pandemic began. So we're seeing a dramatic increase in kids," said Dr. Joseph Perno.

Children do tend to have more mild cases of coronavirus, doctors say, yet over the last month, hospitalizations statewide are also trending up, jumping from nearly 40 on July 1 to more than 100 last week.

We have 12 cases of covid in my state, one is a child under 5 years of age. Seems that children can't avoid Delta.

South Australia records six new cases of COVID-19 linked to winery and restaurant

 

[nhmemorymaker]

We have 12 cases of covid in my state, one is a child under 5 years of age. Seems that children can't avoid Delta.

South Australia records six new cases of COVID-19 linked to winery and restaurant

Certainly, this is my growing fear.... I have seen so many large groups of kids here and there, both outside and inside.... and none are wearing masks and clearly no social distancing...

school starts early in Florida... my county is August 10. Who knows what is going to be happening in the next 20 days???

 

[CoverMeCagney]

The UK may geographically be an island, but in many other respects it is not. It’s more like the United States of Europe in reality, with millions of people criss crossing the continent every day. Comparison to Australia or other more geographically isolated islands is like comparing apples and elephants!

 

[SouthAussie]

The UK may geographically be an island, but in many other respects it is not. It’s more like the United States of Europe in reality, with millions of people criss crossing the continent every day. Comparison to Australia or other more geographically isolated islands is like comparing apples and elephants!

Understood. We also had loads of people travelling in and out of our country every day, pre-covid.
We may be geographically isolated from the northern hemisphere, but we are not isolated from south east Asia, Indonesia, and many other countries.

My point was that closing the international border helped do the trick. Stopped the travel. Which is something the UK could have done. Something that is a little easier to do when your country is surrounded by water.