Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #96

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  • #881
But, I think we're learning from our mistakes--both our very early ones, and the ones we continue to make because we so badly want to be out from under the masking and lockdowns.

My hope is that analysts around the world will study this pandemic very carefully and then come up with some work-arounds in the case we ever see another one (fingers crossed-we don't).

Nice that we're learning from mistakes we made 17 months ago, at a time when another 4,000,000 were alive on the planet.

Analysts will do what they do, but the reality is this. We didn't learn A Single Thing from the pandemic that happened 100 years ago, so the future "Us," have Zero chance of learning from this one. Analysts, Scientists, Doctors, Nurses, can talk all they want trying to explain how this virus works, and mitigating factors based upon what's been learned. But it's in one ear, and out the other. Back to whatever pathetic brain dead activities that consume the daily lives of people. People who deep down couldn't care less about others, beyond sending the requisite thoughts & prayers. No room in their soul for compassion, when it's focused on an all consuming Selfishness and Stubbornness that belies accepting responsibility nor motivates change in beliefs or actions.

We're still learning from the last 18 months, but we're also still learning from 1918. I for one don't think we learned much from that one, and that's indication enough of how much trouble we're still in over the short term, let alone the long term.
 
  • #882
With more than half the population in lockdown, Australians are putting their hands up to support each other

Since the entire state of Victoria was placed under coronavirus lockdown last week, Geelong taxi driver Lovepreet Sharma, also known as Harry, has had some extra time on his hands.
The stage four lockdown — the state's fifth since the beginning of the pandemic — means there are far fewer people needing a taxi to get places.
But the 34-year-old is not satisfied with sitting still. Despite losing work himself, Sharma
and three of his fellow taxi drivers have been offering a free delivery service to vulnerable people who are unable to leave their homes.

"Work is going to be quiet and we'll have a bit of time," he said.

"That's why we thought it would be a good time to do this service and help people out."

'We're all in this together'

With more than half of Australia's population in lockdown across Sydney, Victoria and South Australia, little acts of kindness — like the ones offered by Sharma and his friends — are regularly popping up in community Facebook groups.

While the lockdown orders, put in place to stem a growing outbreak of the highly contagious Delta variant, have meant Australians are physically further from each other, for many it has been an opportunity to to lend a helping hand.

Facebook posts including offers to deliver meals, donate groceries to people out of work, or check in on elderly neighbours, are growing by the day.
 
  • #883
Nice that we're learning from mistakes we made 17 months ago, at a time when another 4,000,000 were alive on the planet.

Analysts will do what they do, but the reality is this. We didn't learn A Single Thing from the pandemic that happened 100 years ago, so the future "Us," have Zero chance of learning from this one. Analysts, Scientists, Doctors, Nurses, can talk all they want trying to explain how this virus works, and mitigating factors based upon what's been learned. But it's in one ear, and out the other. Back to whatever pathetic brain dead activities that consume the daily lives of people. People who deep down couldn't care less about others, beyond sending the requisite thoughts & prayers. No room in their soul for compassion, when it's focused on an all consuming Selfishness and Stubbornness that belies accepting responsibility nor motivates change in beliefs or actions.

We're still learning from the last 18 months, but we're also still learning from 1918. I for one don't think we learned much from that one, and that's indication enough of how much trouble we're still in over the short term, let alone the long term.

Couldn't agree more!!! I think we are a much more selfish me me me society than we were in 1918- combine that with leaders that have politicized this pandemic and you have a recipe for disaster-
 
  • #884
I totally get where you're coming from. Here in the US, we were not prepared for the demographic challenges. So much of our food is shipped by air and truck all over the nation and "essential" workers commute long distances.

But, I think we're learning from our mistakes--both our very early ones, and the ones we continue to make because we so badly want to be out from under the masking and lockdowns.

My hope is that analysts around the world will study this pandemic very carefully and then come up with some work-arounds in the case we ever see another one (fingers crossed-we don't).

Just watching the economic and industrial changes has been fascinating. Virtually everything can be delivered--no one shakes hands anymore--commercial offices are sitting empty and workers are now remote.

Today, I was in Manhattan, KS., and I saw one of those new Segway scooters traveling along the sidewalk all by itself. I think I squealed, "What the heck?" Of course that embarrassed my son who told me I needed to educate myself better because everyone knows about those.

We live in a quickly changing world, and this pandemic will leave a deep imprint on our collective souls.

meanwhile we were sent a memo today that "there is no work from home policy" meaning show up at the office or you will have no job....
 
  • #885
I fear all our children and grandchildren will be paying for this for decades to come.

The good thing is that the diverse experiences of different nations will surely set a pretty solid global blueprint for next time. Hope so anyway!

"paying"...yes, inflation following- prices up for: food, gas, restaurants, property taxes, education, pets, automobiles, office equipment, cleaning services... (my personal experience)
 
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  • #886
More happy stuff .... people who are very happy to have been in hotel quarantine in Hobart, Tasmania. Beautifully singing their thank you from the hotel balconies. Very touching. :)

They are seasonal workers who have been allowed in to help harvest our crops and help keep us and others supplied with food, and supply their own families in Samoa with an income.

https://twitter.com/abchobart/status/1417779778677919748
 
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  • #888
I would like to see both men behave better.

I think Fauci is a very good hair-splitter, meaning he's careful to make denials if Paul has even one word incorrect in his questioning.

Paul is hot-headed, but the NIH is up to its eyeballs in promoting GoF research.

Feds lift gain-of-function research pause, offer guidance

To be fair -- Covid may not have come from a lab, but this pandemic has--or at least, should have--awakened in all of us a need to stop risky GoF research that has a HIGH POTENTIAL to create another pandemic.

Unbeknownst to most Americans, scientists have been arguing about this for years--and now, the ones who strongly promoted it are attempting a Hail Mary play to avoid getting burned.

If Covid is chimeric in nature, it didn't have to come from the WIV--it could just as easily have come from a lab in the US, in Wisconsin or at Fort Detrick.

A majority of scientists--not counting the ones who are involved in GoF who signed either one of Daszak's letters--still say Covid likely jumped from animals to humans.

It could literally be years before we find out--if ever.

But, at the same time, more than 4 million have died from this pandemic, and the world needs to sit up and collectively say that's it's time to stop funding research that could lead to another pandemic--one that makes Covid look like a baby.

Paul is an 🤬🤬🤬, but Fauci's not innocent.

it could have escaped a lab AND been transmitted through animals... one event does not preclude another. IMO.
 
  • #889
anti-vaccine figurehead Robert F Kennedy Jr still has an account on Facebook, despite being banned from Instagram, which is owned by Facebook.

alternative medicine doctor Joseph Mercola also remains on Facebook, where he has made a number of vaccine-skeptical posts in recent weeks that were reshared hundreds of times by his 1.7 million followers.

“Facebook needs a much better mechanism to stop the spread of false information about the vaccine, and they need to make sure they’re doing that across languages”

11 out of the top 15 vaccine related-posts on Facebook last week contained disinformation or were anti-vaccine.

the number one Facebook post in the entire country about the vaccine on Friday was Marjorie Taylor Greene calling removal of Covid disinformation “communism”

“Social media has greatly contributed to this misinformation – there’s no doubt,” she (Amy Klobuchar) said. “When we have a public health crisis and people are dying every day, enough is enough.”

‘A systemic failure’: vaccine misinformation remains rampant on Facebook, experts say
 
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  • #890
President Biden told a town hall audience in Ohio on Wednesday evening that he expected the Food and Drug Administration would give final approval “quickly” for Covid-19 vaccines

Mr. Biden said he was not intervening in the decision of government scientists, but pointed toward a potential decision soon from the F.D.A. to give final approval for the vaccines

“My expectation talking to the group of scientists we put together, over 20 of them plus others in the field, is that sometime maybe in the beginning of the school year, at the end of August, beginning of September, October, they’ll get a final approval”

The president also said he expected children under the age of 12 ... would be approved to get it on an emergency basis “soon, I believe.”

Covid Live Updates: Biden Projects Final F.D.A. Vaccine Approval Within Months
 
  • #891
Anyone thinking of going to the Carribean? Maybe read this first ....


Covid-19 cases are increasing in many Central American and Caribbean countries .... World Health Organization warned on Wednesday as they called on richer nations to step up vaccine donations to a region where immunization rates remain perilously low.

Cases in Martinique, for example, have tripled over the past week, many involving “young people in their 20s,” Dr. Etienne said.

World health officials call for urgent vaccine donations to stem Covid in Central America and the Caribbean.
 
  • #892
Don't Fauci Their Florida!!!

Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody contracts COVID-19; had gotten vaccine

TALLAHASSEE — Ashley Moody, the Republican attorney general of Florida, tweeted on Wednesday that she has tested positive for COVID-19.

Moody, 46, had been vaccinated for the virus earlier this year, she said.

“Thankfully, I am only experiencing mild symptoms and my family is in good health,” Moody tweeted. “I want to encourage Floridians to be vigilant about their health.”

The news of Moody’s positive test comes four days after she flew on the state plane with Gov. Ron DeSantis and Senate President Wilton Simpson to the U.S.-Mexico border in Del Rio, Texas, for a press conference with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

At the press conference, which was in an open-air airport hangar, Moody also came in close contact with dozens of state law enforcement officers.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement Commissioner Rick Swearingen, Florida Highway Patrol Colonel Gene Spaulding, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Colonel Brian Smith and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton were also at the press conference and interacted with Moody.

DeSantis’ office did not respond to a text and email seeking comment late Wednesday on whether the governor would get tested for COVID-19 or take any precautions after coming in close contact with Moody over the weekend.

Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody contracts COVID-19; had gotten vaccine
 
  • #893
meanwhile we were sent a memo today that "there is no work from home policy" meaning show up at the office or you will have no job....


I'm so sorry to hear that.
 
  • #894
President Biden told a town hall audience in Ohio on Wednesday evening that he expected the Food and Drug Administration would give final approval “quickly” for Covid-19 vaccines

Mr. Biden said he was not intervening in the decision of government scientists, but pointed toward a potential decision soon from the F.D.A. to give final approval for the vaccines

“My expectation talking to the group of scientists we put together, over 20 of them plus others in the field, is that sometime maybe in the beginning of the school year, at the end of August, beginning of September, October, they’ll get a final approval”

The president also said he expected children under the age of 12 ... would be approved to get it on an emergency basis “soon, I believe.”

Covid Live Updates: Biden Projects Final F.D.A. Vaccine Approval Within Months


Getting FDA approval would remove some hurdles, I would think, for schools, etc., to require students to be vaccinated.

With Delta surging--and easily affecting children--it seem foolhardy to let kids return, unmasked, to school next month unless vaccines are required.
 
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  • #896
Getting FDA approval would remove some hurdles, I would think, for schools, etc., to require students to be vaccinated.

With Delta surging--and easily affecting children--it seem foolhardy to let kids return, unmasked, to school next month unless vaccines are required.

Agree-
 
  • #897
Getting FDA approval would remove some hurdles, I would think, for schools, etc., to require students to be vaccinated.

With Delta surging--and easily affecting children--it seem foolhardy to let kids return, unmasked, to school next month unless vaccines are required.

I wonder if the schools will pay heed to the American Academy of Pediatrics.

The American Academy of Pediatrics issued recommendations Monday for the 2021-22 school year that include everyone older than age 2 wearing masks, regardless of vaccination status.
Pediatrics experts recommends kids wear masks in schools: COVID news
 
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  • #899
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...oo-late-doctor-says-hospitalized-covid-19-pat

Interesting: A doctor is speaking out letting people know that as his patients are getting intubated they are asking for the vaccine, at which point the good doctor must tell them
IT IS TOO LATE!!!!!

Doctor reflects on COVID patients: 'I'm sorry, but it's too late' — MSNBC

“Update: Some readers have reached out to suggest I'm downplaying the importance of personal responsibility, so let me clarify: people certainly need to exercise good judgment, especially in the midst of a public health crisis. Those who rely on Facebook rumors about vaccines instead of asking their family doctor for guidance are obviously making a terrible mistake.

My larger point, however, is that I make a distinction between con artists and those who fall victim to them.”
 
  • #900
I wonder if the schools will pay heed to the American Academy of Pediatrics.

The American Academy of Pediatrics issued recommendations Monday for the 2021-22 school year that include everyone older than age 2 wearing masks, regardless of vaccination status.
Pediatrics experts recommends kids wear masks in schools: COVID news


Maybe some schools will, but it's getting crazy here--I see very few masks on anyone, and people are out and about. Kids are at the pool, running, wrestling, playing. Kids are already back on their sport teams without masks, high-fiving each other and my niece's daughter just hosted a huge slumber party. When I asked my niece about it, she said "Everything's back to normal now."

There's no possible way we can stop new variants unless we start being responsible. I can't believe the CDC's advice. We depend on them for guidance, and they dropped the ball. Now, Delta is surging and much longer can it be before a newer, and much more dangerous variant, shows up?

But here's the thing--the vast majority of Americans aren't even paying attention anymore. They think it's over and they're not taking any precautions.

This does not bode well.
 
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