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  • #261
Curious if anyone has tried to get a third shot. I am starting to wonder what would happen if someone tried. Would they know you already had two and get denied? The number of vaccinations each week has started to go up. Could some of these be people seeking boosters?
 
  • #262
Curious if anyone has tried to get a third shot. I am starting to wonder what would happen if someone tried. Would they know you already had two and get denied? The number of vaccinations each week has started to go up. Could some of these be people seeking boosters?
I was about to ask the same thing. I keep telling Mr. Pirate I am going to take the booster into my own hands one day. I am only half kidding. Of course this is totally not recommended!!
I wonder if one must produce ID to get a vaccine. It may vary by state and locale. I am sure not everyone that they are trying to vaccinate here in MI has ID.
 
  • #263
They say “no I’d required” but I brought and showed teen kids birth certificate (and my own just in case)

wellll I started feeling like my first two shots were wearing off in mid juneish. (Vaxxed dec/jan) Kind of an all in my head/gut feeling. Haha people thought I was nuts.

and yah I wonder how many of the newly vaxed recently are getting number three. Smart cookies.
 
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As Covid cases surge, unvaccinated Americans trigger scorn, resentment from vaccinated people (nbcnews.com)

Hopes are getting dashed for a summer that feels more like pre-pandemic years. Now, another feeling has overcome the vaccinated: contempt.

Keisha Bryan, a psychotherapist near Raleigh, North Carolina, had a slate of activities she wanted to do this summer with her husband and their 5-year-old daughter: attend neighborhood parties, visit a trampoline park and travel to Walt Disney World for a much-needed family vacation.

But even something as carefree as the Downtown Raleigh Food Truck Rodeo, which they've attended previously, is off the table this year after event organizers announced Monday it was canceled because of the surge of Covid-19 cases in the region. North Carolina, like many states across the country, has been hit by a doubling of new coronavirus cases and hospitalizations rising due to the highly transmissible delta variant.

Bryan and her family have played it safe throughout the pandemic, getting vaccinated, wearing masks and avoiding large social gatherings. But in the face of a pandemic relapse, as vaccination rates stall and polls show most unvaccinated Americans still aren't interested in getting inoculated against Covid, her hopes are dashed for a jampacked summer. Now, another feeling has overcome her: contempt.

"I find myself doing all of these extra things and being thoughtful, because I learned from my grandmother to not just care for yourself but care for your neighbor," Bryan said. "Now I'm getting to the place where I'm angry — angry that I see other people not doing the same, not getting vaccinated when they can. Don't we all want to get back to normal?"...
 
  • #265
We need boosters like, right now. A booster could be a third dose of regular Pfizer or Moderna, it doesn't have to be specific for delta. We have a lot of vaccines that are actually going to expire, because anti-vaxxers refuse to vaccine. Isn't it time to start giving boosters to people who want it?

"There's "estimated potential for up to 100-fold increase in Delta neutralization post-dose three compared to pre-dose three," researchers wrote in the Pfizer data slides."
Pfizer data suggest third dose of Covid-19 vaccine 'strongly' boosts protection against Delta variant - CNN

Thank you for this link. I followed the link at CNN to Pfizer's data slides showing good results for a third dose. Very interesting data, although it hasn't been peer reviewed or published yet. I am especially inspired by this paragraph from the CNN article:
"Among people ages 65 to 85, the Pfizer data suggest that antibody levels against the Delta variant after receiving a third dose of vaccine are greater than 11-fold than following a second dose."

There are also data slides following the booster slides with data for an oral protease inhibitor drug, with the goal of reducing viral load and decreasing or preventing symptoms of Covid. Sounds promising to me.
 
  • #266
One report I heard on TV today (no links) was helpful. It was a doctor who was saying that 50 was the average age of hospitalizations in her hospital system, and were almost all unvaccinated. She said the double vaccinated patients in the hospital have been much older--higher 70s and above---and she indicated that their immune systems were never going to develop a lot of antibodies anyway, so more likely to be more vulnerable.

I have also heard that the first to get a third shot, would be immune compromised, diseases (like cancer), and I think this will also include the elderly. In many of these cases, the vaccine never "took", with patients developing very few or no antibodies. Which raises lots of new questions too.

Some Immunocompromised Patients Are Already Getting Third Doses Of COVID-19 Vaccine

And what states even require identification to get the vaccine, and IF you did have to self identify with drivers licence , is there even a state or national database to cross-reference?? I think this is going to blow up bigtime. And many could just go to states that have no id requirement....

moo

Walgreens reminds staff that ID isn't required for vaccine in Massachusetts, after some residents were turned away
 
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Olympic host Tokyo's daily Covid cases rise to 3,177, second straight record (nbcnews.com)

"I think we've entered a trend of sharp rises in cases, which I had feared the most," said Yuji Kuroiwa, governor of Kanagawa prefecture near Tokyo.

Olympic host city Tokyo recorded 3,177 new Covid-19 cases on Wednesday, authorities announced, hitting a daily record high for a second straight day as a spike in infections puts pressure on hospitals.

The rise — up from 2,848 on Tuesday — will add to worries about the Games, which are taking place under unprecedented conditions including a ban on spectators in most venues.

The surge also spells trouble for Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga, whose support ratings are at their lowest since he took office last September, ahead of a ruling party leadership race and a general election this year...

I was and am so against going forward with the olympics, I am not watching it and could care less about it. It is being conducted with the backdrop of a full blown surging pandemic in Japan and in the United States, and other parts of the world. It is an outrage as far as I am concerned to have gone ahead with this madness. <modnsip>
 
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I was and am so against going forward with the olympics, I am not watching it and could care less about it. It is being conducted with the backdrop of a full blown surging pandemic in Japan and in the United States, and other parts of the world. It is an outrage as far as I am concerned to have gone ahead with this madness. <modsnip>


Totally agree. That is exactly how I feel too.
 
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  • #269
Totally agree. That is exactly how I feel too.

I kept hoping more sensible minds would prevail and put a halt to this madness but nobody did - I refuse to watch it on TV- their ratings are not all that great anyway
 
  • #270
In our small circle of close friends, hubby and I counted 9 who will not get the vaccine. All are over 60 years of age, except two in their 40's.

 
  • #271
Great tool. We are in a high risk area. San Diego, CA.
I notice that only 43% have had two doses. While 88% have had one dose. Why aren't they getting the second dose?

I'm a few pages behind. But I'm wondering if someone can provide me a link to find what areas the CDC considers high transmission? It doesn't do us any good to tell us people in high transmission areas should wear masks if there is no clear way to determine what is determined as high transmission and what those areas are, right? So I assume this exists somewhere and hope someone knows it. Meanwhile I search google...

Edit: Here it is: COVID Data Tracker
 
  • #272
Great tool. We are in a high risk area. San Diego, CA.
I notice that only 43% have had two doses. While 88% have had one dose. Why aren't they getting the second dose?

The one dose thing makes the least sense to me!

Sadly I know an older man who just died of Covid after over a week on a ventilator. He was not vaccinated. His wife was vaccinated and has done fine. He was very outspoken against the covid vaccine. :(

My poor stupid parents who I love very much won't get vaccinated either. :(
 
  • #273
Curious if anyone has tried to get a third shot. I am starting to wonder what would happen if someone tried. Would they know you already had two and get denied? The number of vaccinations each week has started to go up. Could some of these be people seeking boosters?
I haven't tried but it hasn't been six months yet since my second dose.
 
  • #274
From what I am reading, they are concentrating their studies about a 3rd covid shot on the immunocompromised (and that is who these comments are about, the immunocompromised, just to be clear).
It appears some people develop no, or very few, antibodies after two doses of the vaccine.


Of 30 vaccinated (organ transplant recipients) patients, six people had low levels of antibodies that recognized the coronavirus before getting a third dose. Another 24 did not have detectable antibodies. Two weeks after their third shot, all six patients with initially low antibody levels now had high amounts. Of the 24 people without antibodies, 16 still didn’t develop any, two had low levels and six developed high levels of antibodies.

Another study showed that 67 out of 99 organ transplant recipients vaccinated with Pfizer’s jab had detectable antibodies after a third dose ..... That’s compared with four of 101 individuals after a first dose and 40 of 99 after a second. Of the 59 people who didn’t have antibodies after the second dose, 26, or 44 percent, mounted the immune proteins after the extra dose.

More than 75 percent of blood, or hematopoietic, stem cell transplant recipients had detectable antibodies after two doses ..... Those who had received the transplant more than a year before getting vaccinated, and who had high numbers of pathogen-fighting white blood cells, were more likely to have lots of antibodies.

Of 12 dialysis patients who initially didn’t generate antibodies after two vaccine doses, half mounted an antibody response after an extra shot

https://www.sciencenews.org/article...oster-shots-vaccines-immunocompromised-people
 
  • #275
Re: Third shot of Pfizer vaccine (booster)
I had a telephone "Medicare Wellness Visit" this afternoon. Near the end, she asked if I had any questions, so I asked her (a nurse) when I might be able to have a third Pfizer shot. She said not until it's FDA approved. We'll just have to wait and see, I reckon, but with Delta, I hope the FDA will not delay too long. I believe Pfizer has indicated it will file in August for Emergency Use Authorization for certain groups including old folks like DH and me.

We are in the UNC health care system and I'm sure once a third dose is approved for our age group, we will hear about it.

Just now listening to a story on NPR about vaccinated people possibly being at risk for long Covid. All the more reason not to pussyfoot around with this, IMO.
 
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Australia is now at 21.4% fully vaccinated ... as of 27th July.
(46.53% first dose only)
I think that I have to stop looking every single day, it is like watching the clock. :D

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/def...-19-vaccine-rollout-update-28-july-2021_0.pdf

It's only a matter of time before Australia passes America, like Canada just did, in terms of % vaccinated. We're still probably at least a week away from reaching 50%. You want to talk about excruciating. Here we get to watch CNN's tracker go from 48.1 to 48.2 to 48.3...... At our current pace, which is slowing down day by day, it's gonna take about a year to reach 80%. We'll be lucky if we get to 70% in the next 12 months.
 
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US reports highest number of new cases in the world
The U.S. reported the highest number of new COVID-19 cases in the world in the last week, according to the World Health Organization. The U.S. saw a 131% increase in new cases for the week ending July 25 compared to the previous week, according to the WHO’s epidemiological report.
COVID-19 live updates: US reports highest number of new cases in the world
 
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