Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #98

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Just MOO, I do not consider a huge tent in the garden to be "outside". It is definitely enclosed. There was also a large amount of servants, valets, florists and more gathered at this event to take care of the guests.
Who knows if all of them were vaccinated?
To me, if you're attending a large indoor event, you're making a choice to expose yourself to Covid. No matter who your host is.

Yup .. !

From what I read in a more reputable source, most attendees were vaccinated, they were all required to have a negative covid test prior to the party, masks were available for all, 3/5 of the invitees were uninvited to reduce the numbers, and the party was held outside on their 20 acre property.

(Which is in stark comparison to the rallies that are currently being held by another former notable, where people receive the ticket they paid for, then see the disclaimer on the back that basically says "If you catch covid, don't blame us".)


"He had also hired a “Covid coordinator,” or compliance officer, to ensure the safety of guests."
What Is Going on With Obama’s 60th Birthday Bash?

Clicked on your link...humm....compliance officer..?
Never hear of it.

She said she applied to volunteer at three New York hospitals during the city’s pandemic peak but did not hear back. Instead, she sold a proposal for a book on breastfeeding, “Suck It,” and painted her bedroom aqua fresco. In August, the wife of a former patient, a TV line manager, called looking for something called a Covid compliance officer.

“Nobody had heard of that name before,” Dr. Dahl said. “They were just coming up with what that meant.” When the line producer described what was needed for the role, Dr. Dahl told her: “It sounds like someone who doesn’t exist. It’s like hiring a unicorn. You need someone who is an epidemiologist, but who also knows production and who can oversee health and safety and the logistics that entails.”

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Dr. Linda Dahl at the Kaufman Astoria Studios in Queens.

Part cop, part coach, C.C.O.s have become essential overseers in America’s tentative return to prepandemic life. “We’re at a tipping point,” said Dr. Blythe Adamson, an infectious disease epidemiologist and economist. “People are going out more, they have pandemic fatigue. They’re vaccinated, but people are still getting Covid with these new strains. It makes the compliance officer role extremely important.”

“It’s the difference between a hammer and a scalpel,” said Dr. Adamson, who has been consulting with companies and organizations to help create reopening protocols for live events. “Covid compliance last April was just ‘stay home.’ Now, a year later, we’ve figured out a way to do more things but there are more nuances to how to do them safely. It’s much harder to be the C.C.O. with the scalpel. Things can be really risky if we don’t have all the right layers added up.”
 
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During the pandemic an international movement opposed to Covid-19 vaccines and restrictions has grown on social media, often muddled with conspiracy theories and dangerous falsehoods.

Many in these groups share a belief that the coronavirus pandemic has been concocted by a shadowy global elite for sinister purposes.

Activists are trying to establish elements of a parallel culture as an alternative to vaccinated society.

Michele says she wants to continue mixing with everyone. :mad:

Unjected, created by two friends in Hawaii, Shelby Thomson and Heather Pyle, launched on both the Google and Apple app stores in May.

Users can find dating, housing and business opportunities, all for the unvaccinated only. There has even been discussion about the community organising its own blood bank and organ donations.

How anti-vaxxers are living and loving in a Covid world
 
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Man Stabbed During Dueling Demonstrations in LA Over Vaccine Mandates

One man was stabbed Saturday during dueling demonstrations in downtown Los Angeles over the contentious issue of mandatory vaccinations against the coronavirus, according to Los Angeles police.
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A "choose freedom march" began at 2 p.m. at City Hall to protest what organizers call "medical tyranny, mandatory vaccinations and vaccine passports."

One hour earlier, an opposing group staged a counter-protest at the same location that organizers are calling "no safe space for fascists."
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This is so insane, it is beyond comprehension.
 
  • #384
Americans with PhDs are the most reluctant to get vaccinated against COVID, study finds | Daily Mail Online


"People with a PhD are the most hesitant when it comes to getting the Covid-19 vaccine, according to a paper by researchers from Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh.

Researchers surveyed just over five million US adults in an online survey, with 10,000 reporting that they were educated to PhD level.

The report showed a surprising U-shaped correlation between willingness to get a Covid vaccine and education level - with the highest hesitancy among those least and most educated.

Of those surveyed, 20.8 per cent with a high school education were reluctant to get the shot, and 23.9 per cent with a PhD were against it."

That headline is really misleading. Clickbait, I guess.

The researchers were focused on trying to understand vaccine hesitancy.

In the article's supplementary material there is a chart (see below) showing that 75% of May survey respondents were already vaccinated--probably plenty of PhDs among them, IMO.

eFigure 1. COVID-19 vaccine receipt and intent among US adults by month (January-May, 2021)

Vaccine hesitancy decreased among adults each month from January to May, mostly due to a decrease in the response, “probably not” (-7.0 percentage points (%) [95% CI -7.1, -6.9]) versus “definitely not” (-1.6 % [95% CI -1.7, -1.4]).

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Only 2% of the half-million survey respondents in May were PhDs, and less than 24% of them indicated they would probably not or definitely not get vaccinated at the time they responded. I wouldn't be surprised if many of them have decided to be vaccinated since then, what with Delta on the loose.
 
  • #385
I don't know about any "database". As it is, in the United States, it is already a giant cluster regarding the vaccine. There is definitely no tracking on that. And there probably should have been.

The Vaccine Cards Are the Wrong Size

But, a lot of people are pretty irrational about things now. There is no actual discussion about it, but they just believe that there are huge government databases tracking everyone and everything. Forget trying to reason with them.

Yes, my "cold" was bad.
Illinois has a central database. I signed up and verified my identity yesterday and they have a record of all the vaccines I've received in this state since I moved back and got my first flu shot 7 years ago. It shows the date of everything, including my tetanus shot a couple of years ago, and my latest covid vaccines. It's pretty cool. I just have to login and I've got proof of it all.
 
  • #386
Illinois has a central database. I signed up and verified my identity yesterday and they have a record of all the vaccines I've received in this state since I moved back and got my first flu shot 7 years ago. It shows the date of everything, including my tetanus shot a couple of years ago, and my latest covid vaccines. It's pretty cool. I just have to login and I've got proof of it all.

Thanks for the info: that is very cool!!!
 
  • #387
How one woman overcame her vaccine hesitancy: 'You call them anti-vaxxers - I believe a lot of them are just afraid'
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Selfie of Marie-Hélène Desmarais

Last week, Marie-Hélène Desmarais sat down in a chair at her local vaccine clinic in Montreal. But she ran out just seconds before her shot could be administered.

It wasn't the needle that scared her, but the idea of some unforeseen safety concern that scientists hadn't picked up on yet. It had taken more than a month for her to muster the courage to go to the clinic at all.

"At first I would just go drive by the clinic just to see what it looked like, but I wouldn't stop," Desmarais, a 47-year-old who runs a printing company, told Insider. "My fears were that big. Then the next time I would drive by and sit in the parking lot."

Sometimes she got so nervous she threw up.

Desmarais said she tried not to consume anti-vaccine propaganda online, focusing strictly on clinical studies.

She worried, without scientific reason, that a newly authorized vaccine would somehow linger in her body or travel toward her brain.

"I was so angry at myself. I said, 'Why can't I do this? Even kids are doing this. What's my problem? Why can't I just be part of the solution?'" Desmarais told Insider. "It was really hard on me, actually. I did go into a depression and a self-hatred because I absolutely wanted to get this vaccine, but I just couldn't do it."

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So I got my first dose of Pfizer , I know I’m late but I had to conquer my fear ! Fears are real folks and they are hard to get over , if anyone wants my support to get vaccinated please pm me, I will never judge you

It took a community to convince Desmarais that she could indeed do it. Her mother-in-law researched ways for Desmarais to get vaccinated at home (an option only available to those with mobility issues). And her mother pleaded with her to consider her risk of infection.

"My mother would say, 'I don't want to lose my child because she was afraid of getting vaccinated,'" Desmarais said.

Then last Saturday, as if by magic, Desmarais saw a mobile vaccination clinic pull up to the park across from her house.

"I was like, 'Oh my god. It is my chance,'" she said.

A friend offered to register Desmarais at the clinic, then wait there until Desmarais felt comfortable enough to show up. In the afternoon, Desmarais walked across the street with her husband, daughter, and dog. In her pocket, she'd stashed a piece of paper that contained information she'd gathered about the vaccine.

"In case I had a huge panic attack with all these negative thoughts, I would be able to take the paper out and start reading the facts - not what my mind was trying to say," she said.

A nurse quickly administered a Pfizer shot, then sat with Desmarais on her porch for the next 15 minutes. Desmarais said that when she looked at her husband, daughter, and friend, they seemed to have tears in their eyes.

"I got up and I said, 'You just vaccinated the person that was the most afraid in Quebec,'" Desmarais said.
 
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Jesus
 
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Mom: Vaccinated Las Vegas flight attendant dies from COVID

“The mother and son traveled to Hawaii in late June. Both were tested repeatedly for COVID-19 with all test results coming back negative. Shepperson, however, became ill upon returning home. He immediately quarantined, then tested positive for COVID-19, his mother said. Reggie’s mother would leave him food and drinks at his door as he quarantined.”
 
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I'm pregnant and got vaccinated before the CDC recommended it to pregnant people. It was a no-brainer.

When my fertility specialist helped me get pregnant one of the first things I did was ask about getting the COVID vaccine because, as a teacher, I was eligible. My fertility specialist initially said: "Don't do it. There's not enough information out there."

So I waited, and while I waited, I read. I was genuinely scared at first. I was afraid of a miscarriage.

But I came across some research in the New England Journal of Medicine. While the sample size wasn't huge, the research suggested that there were no obvious issues with the vaccine for pregnant women.

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Sara Feretic at her baby shower

I decided that, as a mom, I had to decide what was the greater risk for my unborn child: catching COVID-19, which can cause damage to the placenta, or getting vaccinated, which doesn't.

This week the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said pregnant people should get vaccinated, but back in the spring when I was having these discussions with my care providers, the guidance wasn't as clear.

Eventually, after weighing many pros and cons, my sister (who was also pregnant at the time) and I decided to get vaccinated together. I showed my sister the information that I'd found. I was 15 weeks pregnant when I got my first Pfizer shot and 18 weeks along when I got the second one.

At the end of July, during an appointment with my midwife, she said: "I really want to talk to you about the vaccine. We really are recommending that you get it." I replied, "Been there, done that." I was able to tell her that I'd already made that choice on my own.
 
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I was an outspoken anti-vaxxer until COVID-19 changed my mind — now I'm vaccinated and 5 of my kids are, too

I'm a mom of six kids, and for most of my parenting life, I belonged to the anti-vax community. For many years, I was outspoken about my choice to not vaccinate and encouraged others to follow the same path.

I joined a lot of websites and mom groups and found friendship and support in those groups. I also found the anti-vax community.

When I was pregnant with my oldest I found a local doctor named Mayer Eisenstein, I trusted him when he told me vaccines were unsafe and unnecessary.

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Alyssa Ruben.

The pandemic changed my views on vaccines

If COVID-19 had never happened, I probably wouldn't have changed my views on vaccines.

When COVID-19 arrived in the US, I remember watching the news and learning that my local intensive-care units were filling up.

I had friends with COVID-19 and knew nurses who'd traveled to my area to help and my uncle was in the ICU on a ventilator. I saw stuff from my anti-vax groups and friends saying, "It's a hoax," and, "Nothing's going on." I couldn't believe it.

When I started seeing conspiracy theories in my local parenting group, I was like, "Whoa. This can't be the group that I'm associating with."
I started researching vaccines and I realized much of what I thought I knew was wrong.

I'm now vaccinating all of my kids and myself

I was vocal in the anti-vax movement. For years, I've had an online platform in parenting communities, and now I'm trying to use this platform to share my experiences and encourage others to get vaccinated.

I've been open about our journey, and I'm facing a lot of internet abuse because of it, especially on TikTok. But I'm going to keep sharing my story because I want other parents to learn from my mistakes.

It wasn't until COVID-19 happened that I realized my views weren't based in science or fact. Now I'm doing everything I can to right the wrongs I've made.
 
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I’m becoming terrified about school starting. Remote learning was removed as a possible option *at all* in May. Masking will be a requirement as of now for all students and staff when school opens in a few weeks, regardless of vaccination status. Except now there are 3 districts in 2 counties (my county and the neighboring county) whose BOEs are sending petitions to remove the mask mandate. I have a little who isn’t eligible for vaccine and has a respiratory disorder. People are just....ugh!
 
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Just MOO, I do not consider a huge tent in the garden to be "outside". It is definitely enclosed. There was also a large amount of servants, valets, florists and more gathered at this event to take care of the guests.
Who knows if all of them were vaccinated?
To me, if you're attending a large indoor event, you're making a choice to expose yourself to Covid. No matter who your host is.

I get where they really wanted to throw a party, especially after having to tone things down throughout the virus, but it was probably a mistake. Delta is so very infectious and, while it's not really fair, public figures are held to higher standards because they set the tone for the rest of us.

Sturgis attendees (the one I know) are citing the president's party as an example that they, too, should have their get together. She is vaccinated.

But, in the grand scope of things, we can't point to any single event because we have so very, VERY many events and policies in the US that are contributing to the spread.

We're also seeing vaccinated passengers being infected on cruises at a substantial rate.
 
  • #395
I’m becoming terrified about school starting. Remote learning was removed as a possible option *at all* in May. Masking will be a requirement as of now for all students and staff when school opens in a few weeks, regardless of vaccination status. Except now there are 3 districts in 2 counties (my county and the neighboring county) whose BOEs are sending petitions to remove the mask mandate. I have a little who isn’t eligible for vaccine and has a respiratory disorder. People are just....ugh!

I'm so sorry to hear that. Have you considered homeschooling until it's safer?

It's challenging, to be sure, but in your situation with a child who has a respiratory disorder, it might be an option.

Keep us updated.
 
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You had 290k new cases and 1923 deaths yesterday according to that. Yet Worldometers shows 71k cases and 258 deaths.

I’m so confused… what is going on?
 
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Vaccine hesitancy isn't really a thing in Ireland, thankfully. In the older age categories the vaccine uptake has been as high as 99% and now children aged 12-15 are eligible for vaccination - and they are queueing up outside in the rain to get it. I am glad we don't have large swathes of unvaccinated people because Delta is proving such a problem as it is. I don't think our hospitals would have been able to cope with the Delta surge if we didn't already have almost all of our older population vaccinated. Hospitals are under considerable pressure and we hope case numbers will trend downwards as more age groups are fully vaccinated over the coming weeks.

Queues at vaccine centres as children receive jabs

Queues formed at vaccine centres around the country as children aged 12 to 15 received their jabs.

About 75,000 children in the age group had registered for a vaccine appointment by Saturday, 48 hours after the online portal opened to the cohort.

(...)

More than 80% of the adult population in Ireland is now fully vaccinated and about 90% partially vaccinated.
 
  • #398
I get where they really wanted to throw a party, especially after having to tone things down throughout the virus, but it was probably a mistake. Delta is so very infectious and, while it's not really fair, public figures are held to higher standards because they set the tone for the rest of us.

Sturgis attendees (the one I know) are citing the president's party as an example that they, too, should have their get together. She is vaccinated.

But, in the grand scope of things, we can't point to any single event because we have so very, VERY many events and policies in the US that are contributing to the spread.

We're also seeing vaccinated passengers being infected on cruises at a substantial rate.
Sturgis attendees were going to attend whether Obama had his party or not. As far as I can tell, everybody attending Obama's party was vaccinated and tested. We can't say the same about Sturgis.
 
  • #399
You had 290k new cases and 1923 deaths yesterday according to that. Yet Worldometers shows 71k cases and 258 deaths.

I’m so confused… what is going on?

I posted a couple of articles about John Hopkins and Worldometer a few weeks back. They get their data from different sources. For the US, John Hopkins can be considered more reliable. (Essentially, Worldometer gets its data from whatever sources it can find online. For the US, John Hopkins has more direct sources.)
 
  • #400
Vaccine hesitancy isn't really a thing in Ireland, thankfully. In the older age categories the vaccine uptake has been as high as 99% and now children aged 12-15 are eligible for vaccination - and they are queueing up outside in the rain to get it. I am glad we don't have large swathes of unvaccinated people because Delta is proving such a problem as it is. I don't think our hospitals would have been able to cope with the Delta surge if we didn't already have almost all of our older population vaccinated. Hospitals are under considerable pressure and we hope case numbers will trend downwards as more age groups are fully vaccinated over the coming weeks.

Queues at vaccine centres as children receive jabs

Queues formed at vaccine centres around the country as children aged 12 to 15 received their jabs.

About 75,000 children in the age group had registered for a vaccine appointment by Saturday, 48 hours after the online portal opened to the cohort.

(...)

More than 80% of the adult population in Ireland is now fully vaccinated and about 90% partially vaccinated.

That is a fabulous vaccination rate!
 
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