Coronavirus Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV

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  • #121
So in theory, with an R0 of say 2.3, the Arizona victim will have infected at least another two people, who will then go on to infect two, and so on and so forth. If the incubation period is as long as 14 days it's going to be difficult to contain. The numbers that are ill in china must be staggering.
 
  • #122
“The outbreak emerged last month in the largest city in central China, Wuhan, a city of 11 million people in Hubei province.
Officials linked it to Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, saying wild animals sold there are the likely source of the virus. The market has been closed since January 1 for disinfection and officials are scrambling to discover its animal source.
Snakes -- the Chinese krait and the Chinese cobra -- may be responsible for transmitting coronavirus to humans.

Scientists in China say that the virus might have jumped from bats to snakes, which were sold in the local seafood market in Wuhan, and then to humans.
However, how the virus could adapt to both the cold-blooded and warm-blooded hosts remains a mystery, and further tests are necessary to determine the source animal.“

A visual guide to the Wuhan virus outbreak - CNN
 
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  • #124
Updated figures should be coming out of China soon. Not that I trust the figures.
 
  • #125
VIRAL TERROR: Top doc fears more coronavirus cases on horizon
Updated: January 26, 2020 5:05 PM EST rbbm
''The man —in his 50s — was returning from ground zero of the virus, Wuhan, to Toronto last Tuesday on China Southern Airlines Flight number CZ311.

The victim is in isolation and his family members are in “self-isolation” as a precaution, Ontario health officials said Saturday.''

''Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s chief public health officer, told reporters on Sunday that authorities are “working rapidly” to trace any passengers who came into contact with the man.

“We’ll be looking at the plane and its seating plan and where that patient was actually seated in order to trace other passengers,” Tam said.

“The main focus is on actual fellow travellers [or others who may have cared for him during the flight],” Tam said.

And the high-ranking health official offered an ominous warning.

“It would not be unexpected that there will be more cases imported into Canada in the near term,” she said.''


At the airport on arrival screens is a warning telling passengers disembarking from Wuhan to tell authorities if they have flu-like symptoms.

It wasn’t until his family called 911 on Thursday when his illness became severe did officials learn the man likely had the coronavirus.''
 
  • #126
If genuine, the videos and reports coming out of Wuhan are disturbing.
 
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  • #128
So containment might not be possible if these numbers are accurate. Also, Drs and nurses will be getting ill and that will be an additional strain.
 
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The 'hospitals' that the Chinese are building look like waiting rooms for death. No running water or electricity and bars on the windows.
 
  • #131
Is China lying? Experts question why authorities suddenly kicked into action weeks after first coronavirus case was reported amid claims the regime has used its superpower status to stop UN declaring an international emergency

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7928349/Did-China-use-status-major-superpower-pressure-World-Health-Organisation.html

I'd say that they kicked into action once they realised that it wasn't just coming from animal-to-human contact and actually showed signs of human-to-human spread.

The few cases outside China that have emerged from people flying from China, doesn't really constitute an international emergency at this point. I think it's more "be prepared" that would be the logical warning.

I find it hard to imagine what they're doing in Wuhan, bringing the city to a standstill, could even be attempted in London or New York or somewhere like that.

I think China is extremely concerned about image, and is really serious about trying to impede the spread of this virus instead of risking being known as the country that failed to prevent a global pandemic. I don't know that it's possible to stop it completely, but they seem to be trying...and the measures should at least slow the spread.
 
  • #132
2,493 confirmed cases, 80 dead

Update: China's National Health Commission reports 304 new cases of coronavirus, adding to 371 cases reported at the epicenter 1 hour ago

2,799 confirmed cases worldwide, including 80 fatalities.
 
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Detroit airport NOT monitored despite flights from China.

So far I think all the people who've been found with the infection outside of China have traveled from/through Wuhan, and I think that's where countries are focusing the attention on checking passengers who've come from there.

So, any airports not checking flights from China, the first thing I'd ask is whether those flights are from Wuhan or from Hubei?

At some point I would expect that flights from just about everywhere in China will have to have passenger checks.

But...they might not be much help if someone's still in the incubation period and doesn't have a high temperature already... It's a tricky one.
 
  • #134
In another impact, The Chinese economy is going to take a hit also. Moo. I'm sure the leaders in the country are concerned about that as a secondary effect of the spread of the virus and the shutdowns.

The Chinese stock market lost 3 to 4% last week, and they were closed last Friday and will not reopen until the 31st because of the holidays. (The Shanghai Stock Exchange is closed in observance of Chinese New Year and will reopen on Fri, Jan 31, 09:30 +08:00.)

Coronavirus: China death toll climbs to 80 with more than 2,700 cases – live updates

Hong Kong has stepped up efforts to stop the virus’s entry. As of Monday, residents of Hubei will be banned from entering Hong Kong. Anyone who has visited Hubei province in the past 14 days, will also be banned from entry.

With millions of people now subject to travel restrictions in China, as the country shut down transport networks in a bid to stop the spread of the virus, some countries are preparing to help their citizens leave affected areas.

Japan’s foreign minister has confirmed that there are 430 Japanese citizens in Hubei province, mostly in Wuhan.

The Australian government is also working to repatriate its citizens trapped in Wuhan, including about 100 schoolchildren who area stranded there.
 
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  • #135
The US needs to stop all flights from China.

The US can refuse entry at customs to anyone with a China passport.

Why do we have laws that are not enforced at critical times? Why let people with Chinese passports come into our country with the possibility of bringing this virus into the USA? It is better to take a stiff stand than to expose this country to a deadly virus.

My opinions only.
 
  • #136
The people of Wuhan must be terrified to be trapped together and unable to leave not knowing if you will catch the disease or even live or die.

I wonder if the healthcare workers are even being allowed to go home in case they infect their families. I also feel sorry for the people celebrating Chinese New Year who are unable to visit their families. Often in China New Year is the only time people have off to see their loved ones.
 
  • #137
The US needs to stop all flights from China.

The US can refuse entry at customs to anyone with a China passport.

Why do we have laws that are not enforced at critical times? Why let people with Chinese passports come into our country with the possibility of bringing this virus into the USA? It is better to take a stiff stand than to expose this country to a deadly virus.

My opinions only.

On current evidence, that would seem excessive. If the death rate is comparable to a yearly flu, then I would ask why there isn't as much demand to prevent flights from countries with flu outbreaks? Sometimes there are regional outbreaks of things like measles, but we don't stop global travel to and from that country.

Yes, we have flu vaccines, but not everyone takes them up, and some years they're more effective than others.

If cases do start coming in from other areas of China or Asia, then I think there's a stronger case to stop incoming traffic from those places, but at the moment, if none have yet come in from anywhere other than Hubei...would that be going too far to stop travel from places that haven't yet exported the virus?

And at some point, we might have to decide to allow the travel anyway because it has already spread too far (like flu does) to contain it. Authorities will try to prevent it getting that embedded, but we don't know how effective they can be.
 
  • #138
Question—

ALL the the things we import from China, via freight and more.

Can the virus exist and be transmitted via the products shipped to the US?

Is Walmart contaminated? :eek:
 
  • #139
Question—

ALL the the things we import from China, via freight and more.

Can the virus exist and be transmitted via the products shipped to the US?

Is Walmart contaminated? :eek:

Probably not likely to live that long on container ships moving around the world. If I get a cold or flu, I can normally tell roughly when/where I got it, and I've never got it from touching a product in a shop or receiving a home delivery parcel to my knowledge.
 
  • #140
Question—

ALL the the things we import from China, via freight and more.

Can the virus exist and be transmitted via the products shipped to the US?

Is Walmart contaminated? :eek:
That's what lysol is for. Spray it on.
 
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