Coronavirus Vaccine: Would you/did you get it? #2

[Arkay]

@angelainwi great news for you and hopefully you'll skate by without other side effects! I didn't begrudge my side effects at all. In fact I was grateful that my body was gearing up to protect me. It's much easier to feel sick when you know you AREN'T sick, rather than the dread we would feel if we were actually on the verge of getting real Covid.

@anneg, great info, as always

@anonymiss I am not going to continue debating but you're right about the variants. That's the fear now, and why the doctors and scientists say that each one of us is responsible to get the vaccine. THAT is the way to keep variants from emerging. The unvaccinated among us are Petri dishes in which new variants are born. I understand you're exceedingly cautious. I, too, have been called paranoid this year. However, I don't know where you live, but here in NYC it is literally impossible to even walk out of my apartment door without running into other people, so I have had to be extreme. I don't live in an area where other people can be avoided, although I did do all my food shopping online, etc. I only left the house to go to the doctor to renew my prescriptions. I didn't see my grandchildren or anyone else.
I'm sorry your eye doctor got Covid after vaccine, but had he or she had both doses and then two extra weeks for immunity to kick in? If so, and your eye doctor is alive, the vaccine may be the reason your doctor is still around.

I'm not thrilled that DeBlasio is opening up New York in July, and that is because my daughter and her family haven't been vaccinated yet. If I could kiss the vaccine, I would. It is the before and after dividing line. It shouldn't be the have and have nots, because it's free and now finally easily accessible. But that's what will be happening.

 

[Springrain]

Little update, I got the vaccine about 18 hours ago (I think, bad at math lol) and I am still feeling fine besides just the sore arm. Kinda sucks because I need to lift things later, but it really isn't too bad! I am a bit nervous about the second round of Moderna, but it is what it is.

 

[Arkay]

Little update, I got the vaccine about 18 hours ago (I think, bad at math lol) and I am still feeling fine besides just the sore arm. Kinda sucks because I need to lift things later, but it really isn't too bad! I am a bit nervous about the second round of Moderna, but it is what it is.

After my first Moderna, I like you had only the sore arm. After my second shot I had chills, fever and some muscle aches. It only lasted about six hours although some people have had it for a day or two. But while I was in the midst of it, not knowing how long it would last, I just kept reminding myself that I wasn't actually sick or in danger, and that helped me power through.

My mindset is this V timeline of how Covid-19 has been in the news all year:

VirusVentilatorVaccineVictory (maybe Vanquish is better)?

I praise the Lord I and my family have been able, through caution, to escape the virus and ventilator portions. I know so many who didn't escape. You're on the vaccine part and yay!!!!!

 

[Springrain]

After my first Moderna, I like you had only the sore arm. After my second shot I had chills, fever and some muscle aches. It only lasted about six hours although some people have had it for a day or two. But while I was in the midst of it, not knowing how long it would last, I just kept reminding myself that I wasn't actually sick or in danger, and that helped me power through.

My mindset is this V timeline of how Covid-19 has been in the news all year:

VirusVentilatorVaccineVictory (maybe Vanquish is better)?

I praise the Lord I and my family have been able, through caution, to escape the virus and ventilator portions. I know so many who didn't escape. You're on the vaccine part and yay!!!!!

My parents are in their 50s and also had the Moderna. They were totally fine, like me, with the first dose but had some side effects with the second: not as bad as yours, but really bad headaches, not being able to sleep at all, and I think soreness but it went away in a day. I'm in my 20s, hopefully I don't get hit as bad but what I really care about at this point is just getting it done and having immunity!

My SO was able to get the vaccine a while ago before they opened up to the rest of Washington through the VA but declined because he was worried about the supposed vaccine-resistant variants (I don't know much about that), but he is going to get it soon thankfully. His parents are both 60+, one is 65+, and not in the best health (I am fortunate that my parents are younger and in really good health aside from severe hearing issues), so he really has to be on top of that.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

As to side effects of my two vaccines for COVID, they were minimal and NOTHING compared to the discomfort and pain and suffering that I just went through in preparation for my colonoscopy this morning. That preparation/ side effects were much worse than a 12 hour headache or many of the other symptoms I've read here re COVID vaccinations. Cramps, nausea, diarrhea x34 times in 9 hours, headache, dehydration, not being able to eat for a day and a half, etc etc. Most of these are unavoidable and everyone gets these symptoms in the colonoscopy preparations. And not even to mention the side effects of sleeping the day away afterwards, or inconvenience of living alone and having to find someone to drive me to/stay with/drive me home afterwards. And yes, there are risks associated with colonoscopies... even higher mortality than COVID vaccines I would think. MOO.

Just my perspective as to relative discomfort we go through in life to prevent diseases.

 

[ilovewings]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-cdc-is-on-top-of-the-science-but-muddying-the-message?ref=home

This really good article is unfortunately behind a paywall- hope at least some of you can read it: it describes how, though the CDC is on top of the science, they have muddied up the message in several areas from masking to whether to wear mask indoors/outdoors if you are vaccinated. They were hamstrung by the prior administration but they have had time now to clean up their act, and they are not doing it. The CDC message is vital to this country getting vaccinated and back on track to normalcy.

 

[anneg]

The CDC Is on Top of the Science, but Muddying the Message

This really good article is unfortunately behind a paywall- hope at least some of you can read it: it describes how, though the CDC is on top of the science, they have muddied up the message in several areas from masking to whether to wear mask indoors/outdoors if you are vaccinated. They were hamstrung by the prior administration but they have had time now to clean up their act, and they are not doing it. The CDC message is vital to this country getting vaccinated and back on track to normalcy.

Trevor Noah rants about the CDC's confusing new mask guidelines.

 

[ilovewings]

Trevor Noah rants about the CDC's confusing new mask guidelines.

Thanks for posting -- hilarious and so true!!!!

 

[anonymiss]

@angelainwi great news for you and hopefully you'll skate by without other side effects! I didn't begrudge my side effects at all. In fact I was grateful that my body was gearing up to protect me. It's much easier to feel sick when you know you AREN'T sick, rather than the dread we would feel if we were actually on the verge of getting real Covid.

@anneg, great info, as always

@anonymiss I am not going to continue debating but you're right about the variants. That's the fear now, and why the doctors and scientists say that each one of us is responsible to get the vaccine. THAT is the way to keep variants from emerging. The unvaccinated among us are Petri dishes in which new variants are born. I understand you're exceedingly cautious. I, too, have been called paranoid this year. However, I don't know where you live, but here in NYC it is literally impossible to even walk out of my apartment door without running into other people, so I have had to be extreme. I don't live in an area where other people can be avoided, although I did do all my food shopping online, etc. I only left the house to go to the doctor to renew my prescriptions. I didn't see my grandchildren or anyone else.
I'm sorry your eye doctor got Covid after vaccine, but had he or she had both doses and then two extra weeks for immunity to kick in? If so, and your eye doctor is alive, the vaccine may be the reason your doctor is still around.

I'm not thrilled that DeBlasio is opening up New York in July, and that is because my daughter and her family haven't been vaccinated yet. If I could kiss the vaccine, I would. It is the before and after dividing line. It shouldn't be the have and have nots, because it's free and now finally easily accessible. But that's what will be happening.

It is still unknown whether the vaccinated can pass the virus to others or not, whether the vaccination even worked (6% failure rate), or if the vaccinated picked up a variant, or how long the immunization period lasts, or if the double vaccinated person is one of the 6,000 people in the U.S. who got covid anyway, so I wouldn't feel completely safe being around those possible vaccinated petri dishes either. Yesterday I posted the woman from WHO in charge of covid stated that the double vaccine might not be able to curb the double mutant found in India (and other countries).
Maybe I'm nuts, but I don't understand how any vaccinated person feels safe without further testing to be sure the vaccination worked properly in their system to give them immunity.

 

[adelynschmidt]

Scheduled to get my first shot tomorrow morning! I believe it'll be the moderna one. I've been itching to get it for a while now but appointments have been scarce for the times I'm available.

I'm 23, fairly healthy, and it's likely that I would get over covid no problem. But I also deal with high anxiety just on a normal day & the pandemic has really sent me spiraling at times. I can't wait to have the peace of mind that I've missed for over a year now, I've forgotten what it's like to not be worried about getting sick. I'll be sure to update on any side effects

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Whitmer plan ties lifting COVID-19 restrictions to vaccination rates (detroitnews.com)

Lansing — Gov. Gretchen Whitmer announced a key plan Thursday to tie the future of COVID-19 restrictions in Michigan to the percentage of residents who get their first dose of the coronavirus vaccine.

The Democratic governor described the "MI Vacc to Normal" plan as the state's way out of the pandemic, which has been tied to more than 17,400 deaths in Michigan and spurred limitations on gatherings and businesses for more than a year.

Whitmer announces Michigan will ease specific COVID restrictions as 4 vaccination goals are reached (clickondetroit.com)

Vaccination thresholds will trigger loosening of certain restrictions

LANSING, Mich. – Michigan is outlining four specific vaccination goals that, once they are reached, will directly trigger the loosening of certain COVID-19 restrictions across the state, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer revealed...

What do non-Michigan residents think about Governor Whitmer's latest plan to get past the pandemic and reopen the state?

 

[MajorHoople]

The article is from the NY Times, 4/27/2021, the journalist is Gettleman, I think the title is "This is a Catastrophe in India." There are over 1,000 comments to the article, some from Indians saying the situation is much worse than being reported, people are being arrested for asking for oxygen, the sick are are being turned away from hospitals, etc, it's absolutely horrifying if these stories are true.

You're right. The situation is bad in India now. We have an India - Coronavirus COVID-19 thread that's really heating up.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

It is still unknown whether the vaccinated can pass the virus to others or not, whether the vaccination even worked (6% failure rate), or if the vaccinated picked up a variant, or how long the immunization period lasts, or if the double vaccinated person is one of the 6,000 people in the U.S. who got covid anyway, so I wouldn't feel completely safe being around those possible vaccinated petri dishes either. Yesterday I posted the woman from WHO in charge of covid stated that the double vaccine might not be able to curb the double mutant found in India (and other countries).
Maybe I'm nuts, but I don't understand how any vaccinated person feels safe without further testing to be sure the vaccination worked properly in their system to give them immunity.

Welcome new member @anonymis !

Yes, it IS KNOWN MOO that vaccinated folks can pass to others. It has been talked about and accecpted for a very long time MOO.

Yes, it is accepted by many here and in the scientific community that we don't know how long immunity lasts (we have discussed decreasing antibodies from B cells, but long term with T cells on threads for over a year)

As to your comment "I wouldn't feel completely safe being around those possible vaccinated petri dishes either"... I don't understand what this means, can you explain how folks who are vaccinated are petri dishes (I assume this is a message to say that folks who are vaccinated are asymptomatic and throwing such???... ummmm, okey dokey)

As to the double vaccine may not protect............ um, what is the point you are making? That due to folks not getting the vaccine they are allowed to mutate or ???????????

As to the comment that you don't know how folks know they are safe without further testing to know if they are protected.... true, but what is your meaning for such? We have the stats. Do you think that the government or individuals need to go and spend $$ on tests that are so iffy vs. just doing the recommendations? I'm not sure at all where you are coming from.

You are new to WS, and Welcome! And I think you will learn much going back in threads to understand such to drill down from folks here. And since new, perhaps following this thread and others.

 

[Arkay]

As to your comment "I wouldn't feel completely safe being around those possible vaccinated petri dishes either"... I don't understand what this means, can you explain how folks who are vaccinated are petri dishes (I assume this is a message to say that folks who are vaccinated are asymptomatic and throwing such???... ummmm, okey dokey)

The quote you reference above may be a response to something I wrote several days ago, in which I referred to UNvaccinated people as potential Petri dishes. I wrote that because the scientists and doctors have all been explaining that people who are UNvaccinated and get infected are often the repositories for mutations of the virus to grow, within their own bodies, and therefore foist new and dangerous variants upon the rest of the world. The above quote is the reverse of what I said, and I appreciate you highlighting it, @dixiegirl1035

 

[dixiegirl1035]

The quote you reference above may be a response to something I wrote several days ago, in which I referred to UNvaccinated people as potential Petri dishes. I wrote that because the scientists and doctors have all been explaining that people who are UNvaccinated and get infected are often the repositories for mutations of the virus to grow, within their own bodies, and therefore foist new and dangerous variants upon the rest of the world. The above quote is the reverse of what I said, and I appreciate you highlighting it, @dixiegirl1035

@Arkay Thanks for helping out. We have new folks here and glad to help continue to update for those new here. Appreciate that the OP misunderstood, and that you clarified.

If we can help any ONE person in the world get to an educated decision... that is progress. They may continue to decide not to, or go get a vaccine. But at least here we are staunch MOO in trying to give correct information, or differing opinions from what they have read.

So glad new members here on threads to discuss. There are so very many truly anxious folks that need to have concerns met.

As stated just yesterday... I just went through 9 hours of vomiting, diarrhea x34, dehydration, very very ill feeling and alone.

And I PLANNED IT....knowing that the symptoms for just the preparation were awful... in preparation for my colonoscopy every 2 years to prevent cancer.

Look at the stats for harm of MANY MANY medications.. I refused cholesterol meds due to side effects... I watch ads on TV for a simple thing that is a non-issue in my mind.. and they rattle off very long side effects for such.

Jeez.. folks who take cholesterol meds, botox, birth control etc etc etc.....

May we learn how to speak to others to understand. I wish that PSA would speak to such, but I guess they will NEVER do such comparisons?

 

[Seattle1]

Anxiety drove some reactions to J&J shot that shut down 4 mass vaccination sites | Daily Mail Online

April 30, 2021

It was anxiety - and not a problem with the shots - that caused reactions in dozens of people at coronavirus vaccine clinics in five states, U.S. health officials have concluded.

Experts say the clusters of reactions like fainting and light-headedness after getting Johnson & Johnson's vaccine, detailed Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), are an example of a phenomenon that's been chronicled for decades from a variety of different vaccines.
___________

3 wks since my J & J without incident and happy to have booked my travel to visit mother next weekend for Mother's Day!!

 

[anneg]

You're right. The situation is bad in India now. We have an India - Coronavirus COVID-19 thread that's really heating up.

Thanks for the link. I hadn't thought to visit the India thread.

 

[FLmom777]

Welcome new member @anonymis !

Yes, it IS KNOWN MOO that vaccinated folks can pass to others. It has been talked about and accecpted for a very long time MOO.

Yes, it is accepted by many here and in the scientific community that we don't know how long immunity lasts (we have discussed decreasing antibodies from B cells, but long term with T cells on threads for over a year)

As to your comment "I wouldn't feel completely safe being around those possible vaccinated petri dishes either"... I don't understand what this means, can you explain how folks who are vaccinated are petri dishes (I assume this is a message to say that folks who are vaccinated are asymptomatic and throwing such???... ummmm, okey dokey)

As to the double vaccine may not protect............ um, what is the point you are making? That due to folks not getting the vaccine they are allowed to mutate or ???????????

As to the comment that you don't know how folks know they are safe without further testing to know if they are protected.... true, but what is your meaning for such? We have the stats. Do you think that the government or individuals need to go and spend $$ on tests that are so iffy vs. just doing the recommendations? I'm not sure at all where you are coming from.

You are new to WS, and Welcome! And I think you will learn much going back in threads to understand such to drill down from folks here. And since new, perhaps following this thread and others.

Everything put out by the CDC that I have seen says they do not know if vaccinated people can pass the virus to others.

 

[nyvictoria]

Little update, I got the vaccine about 18 hours ago (I think, bad at math lol) and I am still feeling fine besides just the sore arm. Kinda sucks because I need to lift things later, but it really isn't too bad! I am a bit nervous about the second round of Moderna, but it is what it is.

Don’t worry about it too much. I had both shots of Moderna vaccine and had no side effects from either (other than sore arm). You may be lucky too.

 

[JDG]

Well, I know I won't do well if I get COVID so am very relieved that there is a vaccine.

If you remain unvaccinated and get COVID, its between your immune system and the virus to battle it out.

If you are young, hale and hearty, you might be okay. Or not.

I'm in Ontario and won't make any political comment but we have a 16 week wait between our shots and THAT makes me nervous. Will it alter the efficacy?? Will it leave us open to more variants? Will it indeed cause more variants??

If I could get the second shot tomorrow, I'd be there with bells on!

In the meantime, until this COVID is under control somewhat, we will still be living as we have the last 15 months. No restaurants, theatres etc. Not for a very long time methinks.

ETA: if people realized that the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) were already in the pipeline as medications to alter cancer and neurological illnesses and better the outcomes/possibly even eradicate them, they might feel more comfortable with a vaccine that was 'piggybacked' onto the up-and-coming cancer therapies to defeat COVID.

If/when COVID is controlled, the mRNA medications will still be fine tuned for trials for all sorts of diseases. It has been in the works since the SARS outbreak that was mainly in Toronto, in 2003. mRNA therapies are not new, have not been 'rushed' in the last year for only COVID. Hope this helps reduce the anxiety felt by some people.