Could Patsy's Cocktails Have Played A Part In Her Rage Attack?

[JMO8778]

Indeed,and it also shows the note was written after JB was dead.
The IDI scenario has it that the note was written while an intruder was waiting on the R's to return...but an intruder who'd planned on garroting JB (and in that case,why bother with the ransom and KN story;he would have risked being caught with a dead body for a lousy 118k..makes no sense) wouldn't have needed Patsy's paintbrush to make it..he'd have brought along all of his own tools.
So the note clearly shows that 1-there was no intruder,and 2- that it was written to provide an excuse as to why JB was found with those types of injuries.

 

[JaneInOz]

It's simpler than that, JaneInOz. The reference to beheading is CLEARLY an attempt to suggest Islamic terrorism.
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You think ?

Nah I think it was more of a cover up.

Dave after reading all the rest of what you wrote I am kinda getting the feeling that you think PR is not the guilty one that in fact it was JR ?

Just because of what you wrote about PR escaping hell and deadening the pain and so on and so forth

Am I right ? thinking that you think along those lines ?

 

[BBB167893]

You think ?

Nah I think it was more of a cover up.

It can be both.

Dave after reading all the rest of what you wrote I am kinda getting the feeling that you think PR is not the guilty one that in fact it was JR ?

Just because of what you wrote about PR escaping hell and deadening the pain and so on and so forth

Am I right ? thinking that you think along those lines ?

It's tough, JaneInOz. My brother and sister-in-law think that. I think his actions led to the killing, so I'd have to say yes and no. To my way of thinking, being an evil person is not the same thing as doing evil things. That's what I mean when I say that she escaped the tortures of hell. JR I have no sympathy for at all.

I figure you were looking for a straight-up "yes-or-no" answer, but I honestly can't give you that.

 

[GingBreade]

All these bruises look pretty suspicious to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhSbWlgAeIk peeking out from her left arm at :46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pK-MPA0n4 her right arm inside elbow at 2:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pK-MPA0n4 right arm underneath almost 0:41

I think someone was very forecful with her.

 

[BBB167893]

All these bruises look pretty suspicious to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhSbWlgAeIk peeking out from her left arm at :46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pK-MPA0n4 her right arm inside elbow at 2:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pK-MPA0n4 right arm underneath almost 0:41

I think someone was very forecful with her.

A very good catch!

 

[DeeDee249]

I could easily see the bruise at 2:00 in the middle video, but I wasn't able to make it out clearly in the other two videos. The bruise is in a place where you can just imagine an angry PR grabbing her by the arm and forcefully pulling her, (like "you better stand STILL while I do your hair, makeup etc.)

Of course, the bruise could also have been caused by a previous manhandling/struggle unrelated to the pageant (molestation?); however, PR was the quintessential stage mother. If someone else had bruised JBR's arm like that, especially before a pageant, she'd have gone ballistic.

 

[GingBreade]

A very good catch!

I have to wonder why the bruises all look like finger marks or something - 3 different finger mark angles of the same bruise or 3 different bruises?? They are 3 different bruises to me. Regardless, this shows that Patsy was not very gentle with JB...she drove a steel ship and you did what you were told. Crazy. I would love to know what Patsy was like growing up, what she was like in her 20's.

 

[GingBreade]

I could easily see the bruise at 2:00 in the middle video, but I wasn't able to make it out clearly in the other two videos. The bruise is in a place where you can just imagine an angry PR grabbing her by the arm and forcefully pulling her, (like "you better stand STILL while I do your hair, makeup etc.)

Of course, the bruise could also have been caused by a previous manhandling/struggle unrelated to the pageant (molestation?); however, PR was the quintessential stage mother. If someone else had bruised JBR's arm like that, especially before a pageant, she'd have gone ballistic.

Exactly. Look at the videos I pointed out. I just heard songs from Depeche Mode and The Smiths that made me happy...crazy.

 

[JaneInOz]

All these bruises look pretty suspicious to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhSbWlgAeIk peeking out from her left arm at :46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pK-MPA0n4 her right arm inside elbow at 2:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pK-MPA0n4 right arm underneath almost 0:41

I think someone was very forecful with her.

Well After bawling my eyes out through all those and then some more I found this one as well



http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ftMdaA3dvZU&feature=related at 1.03

IVe taken two of yours and screen shot the,



The first pic here I definitely see the bruise left arm and ETA OMFG Watch it when it turn to a black and white shot at 2.04 OMG

But this one is this a shadow on the right arm > or a bruise ?

In 2 days (its the 23rd here) it will be 12 years since JonBenet was brutally murdered and her killer/s go unpunished When will Justice come for Jon Benet

Thinking of you JonBenet :blowkiss:

 

[BBB167893]

I have to wonder why the bruises all look like finger marks or something - 3 different finger mark angles of the same bruise or 3 different bruises?? They are 3 different bruises to me. Regardless, this shows that Patsy was not very gentle with JB...she drove a steel ship and you did what you were told. Crazy. I would love to know what Patsy was like growing up, what she was like in her 20's.

As would I.

 

[JaneInOz]

SuperDave did you see the pics I did ? and the other utube part I pointed out ? esp the black and white part
Thats a definite Grip hold like probably an adult thumb digging in there

BUT why didn't she cover it with makeup? didnt she worry that the judges would see ?

 

[BBB167893]

SuperDave did you see the pics I did ? and the other utube part I pointed out ? esp the black and white part
Thats a definite Grip hold like probably an adult thumb digging in there

BUT why didn't she cover it with makeup? didnt she worry that the judges would see ?

I saw.

Maybe the judges figured "ah, kids get into trouble all the time."

Or maybe a subconscious plea for help.

 

[GingBreade]

Okay if I read that PR says 'little' one more time...wo.

I will link but for now I have to say: Patsy says at least 2 times that she dressed JB in a dress or JB put on a dress before going to the Whites. What if, she wanted JB to 'perform' a LITTLE song/dance for the occassion. She made her do it at JB's school the week before. This could be the reason no pics have ever been seen of the White's party. Maybe JB refused, then was allowed to change into her gap outfit. She flat out refused, and PR was a BIT upset by that.

 

[DeeDee249]

Okay if I read that PR says 'little' one more time...wo.

I will link but for now I have to say: Patsy says at least 2 times that she dressed JB in a dress or JB put on a dress before going to the Whites. What if, she wanted JB to 'perform' a LITTLE song/dance for the occassion. She made her do it at JB's school the week before. This could be the reason no pics have ever been seen of the White's party. Maybe JB refused, then was allowed to change into her gap outfit. She flat out refused, and PR was a BIT upset by that.

PR was upset that day for a few reasons. JBR was disinterested in the MyTwinn doll that PR had specially ordered to look like JBR in one of her pageant dresses. Then they had a argument about the outfit JBR was to wear to the White's. Add that to PR's stress about the upcoming double trip- first to Charlevoix and then in a Disney cruise. The trip- a bratty kid, a few glasses of wine, and add to this the constant wetting and soiling by a child long supposedly potty-trained and what a recipe for disaster.
As far as what she actually ended up wearing that day, police already know. They have seen the photos. We are the ones in the dark, but detective Steve Thomas said she wore the white top she was found in. That doesn't mean that the red shirt wasn't worn at some point. JBR was thought to have ridden her bike outside that day- maybe she wore the red shirt then- and got it dirty so she couldn't wear it to the party, as her mother wanted her to.

 

[ShesElectric]

Hmm, yeah I saw the bruise in the first pic you provided.
The second one, to me, though was hard to distinguish.

I guess now I believe there was some kind of abuse going on,
but I have idea who to point the finger at. A theory, but thats all.



Connor

 

[BBB167893]

Hmm, yeah I saw the bruise in the first pic you provided.
I guess now I believe there was some kind of abuse going on,
but I have idea who to point the finger at. A theory, but thats all.

Then you're in the same boat as I am.

 

[BBB167893]

Hmm, yeah I saw the bruise in the first pic you provided.
I guess now I believe there was some kind of abuse going on,
but I have idea who to point the finger at. A theory, but thats all.

Then you're in the same boat as I am.

 

[DeeDee249]

I'm in that boat, too. I have several theories, but can't seem to settle on one.

 

[BBB167893]

I wonder if our friend Holdon has seen these pictures.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Wow, a bruise on a kid.

That settles it then, she was abused. It fits in with all the other abuse evidence, both before and after an intruder killed her.

:doh: