Could Patsy's Cocktails Have Played A Part In Her Rage Attack?

Did Patsy's Cocktails Play A Part In The Rage Attack Against JB?

  • No...alcohol was NOT a factor.

    Votes: 21 17.1%
  • Yes...alcohol WAS a factor.

    Votes: 24 19.5%
  • MAYBE...alcohol would have been a factor.

    Votes: 77 62.6%
  • What do you mean? Patsy NEVER drank alcohol!!!

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • Total voters
    123
  • #321
The idea that a mere signature is relied upon to qualify one's identity, to cash large checks for instance. Now we have what, 1500 or so handwritten characters and the CBI 'cant say with specificity'?

PR didn't write the note, or all CDE's would be saying it with specificity, given the length and variability of the note. There's too many darn letters and words, too many instances of smooth writing especially at the end of the note, for CDE's to come up empty. "Can't say with specificity" is basically coming up empty, when the sample size is 1500 or so characters.

Hi Hotyh. Thanks for the reply.

Ya ...... that's exactly what I was wondering, how you would consider the 'results' that indicate PR can not be excluded as the writer, degrees of exclusivity being the nature of the scale.

No value judgement here.

IMO alcohol, drugs, psychosis, medical issues, & the attempt to disguise her writing within the note can account for PR score.

but PR as the writer ....that can not be, NOW.
NOW that the dna is not viewed as being the result of secondary tranfer or contamination.....

so even within the RDI scenarios, PR as the writer of the ransom note can not be, unless the unidentified 'intruder' dna, came from an individual known to PR who aided her in the staging,

Ya, Hotyh ... it's so hard to exclude certain 'facts' from existence? ...having read what I've read ....heck of an impossiblity at times.....


The impossibilty ... One can easily choose to dismiss the 'chronic sexual abuse' evidence, just choose to suggest that the forensic evidence is misinterpreted, even though the tissue samples revealed what is the medical standard for sexual abuse.
CW comments, make it very hard to consider otherwise.
 
  • #322
hey!
and Hotyh .... thanks.
Your points are always so interesting to consider ...
and brevity is the soul of wit.
 
  • #323
Hi Hotyh. Thanks for the reply.

Ya ...... that's exactly what I was wondering, how you would consider the 'results' that indicate PR can not be excluded as the writer, degrees of exclusivity being the nature of the scale.

No value judgement here.

IMO alcohol, drugs, psychosis, medical issues,& the attempt to disguise her writing within the note can account for PR score.

but PR as the writer ....that can not be, NOW.
NOW that the dna is not viewed as being the result of secondary tranfer or contamination.....

so even within the RDI scenarios, PR as the writer of the ransom note can not be, unless the unidentified 'intruder' dna, came from an individual known to PR who aided her in the staging,

Ya, Hotyh ... it's so hard to exclude certain 'facts' from existence? ...having read what I've read ....heck of an impossiblity at times.....


The impossibilty ... One can easily choose to dismiss the 'chronic sexual abuse' evidence, just choose to suggest that the forensic evidence is misinterpreted, even though the tissue samples revealed what is the medical standard for sexual abuse.
CW comments, make it very hard to consider otherwise.

Wasn't CW a tabloid hire? A third party, not involved in the investigation? Never attended JBR in life or death? Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
  • #324
As far as the RN 'harking back to foreign powers' or the author being someone who uses ESL..well,not one of the experts have ever stuck their neck out far enough to say they thought a foreigner wrote it.they know it would be too much of a stretch (more like a giraffe's neck).they have,however...not ruled out Patsy as the author.
And no one has ever considered it to be a crime of international affair.
 
  • #325
So, Tadpole, you now heard the arguments. Who would you put your money on? - SD

Well,
I ain't got no money, down to pocket lint and cookies crumbs, and I've never been a gambler.

I usually stick with the stats, and I can't get past that point ..... to a place where PR could not be the writer of the ransom note.

An intruder's attempt to disguise their handwriting as PR, the obsevation that family members have similar styles in writing, .....it's a big stretch for me to make, at this point in time, to disregard PR as the writer of the note, also, considering she is the only 1 of 74? not to be excluded.

SuperDave, you are a wealth of information ... more googlin' for me.
Very interesting background info re groupthink and qualifications of these experts. Thanks again for all the info, as usual, you and the other posters are a far better source than my google search engine!
 
  • #326
  • #327
Let's all just STOP and listen to the 911 call...this clip will play it in a second. Hmm. Not sure what to say after that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiwiJ63QwKE

Thanks for the link. After hearing that 911 call again, I don't think that Patsy sounds at all upset. She is breathing heavy...trying to SOUND like she is upset, but no crying or anything. And why the heck would a person hang up on a 911 operator? The 911 operator: "Patsy? Patsy? Patsy? Patsy?" Patsy had to go, because she had all of those friends that she needed to call to come over.
 
  • #328
Well, thanks SD for the VanZandt radio tape. My impression is that he has no opinion. That is, he is torn between RDI and IDI.

A fence sitter.

That's why I recommended it to everyone, Holdon. I personally thought he was very fair.

I heard him state that the R's were twice victims. Once of losing their daughter, and once by being accused.

I heard that too. Although, he didn't quite phrase it that way.

Then he stated that the DNA found in both JBR's underwear and longjohns that matched one another were 'strong evidence' of an unknown person.

He said it couldn't be ignored, certainly.

But then, he went on about how the ransom note and the handling of JBR fit a coverup scenario.

RIGHT.

He also talked about DNA and how there's only a few thousand DNA in CODIS, but over 300 million people. My opinion is if you had all 300 million DNA, you still wouldn't have a match. There's no rule that says perps only victimize people of their own nationality, or that they don't travel across borders to do crime. There's 6 or 7 billion people in that DNA pool.

Mm-hmm.

His knowledge of the case seems superficial, or at least his devotion to the case seems superficial.

Superficial? I'd have to balk on that a little bit.

I think he was closer to the solution in 1997, when he stated that the expressions in the ransom note was from someone 'used to exerting authority over others,' and that the expression victory 'harked back to foreign powers' as if it corroborated the other expression 'foreign faction'.

I'm aware of those statements. I'm also aware that even then he said it was someone trying to SOUND like those things.

Glad you liked it either way.
 
  • #329
Wasn't CW a tabloid hire? A third party, not involved in the investigation? Never attended JBR in life or death? Correct me if I'm wrong.

No, you're not wrong. He was all of those things, and I say so in the book.

The REST of them, were not tabloid hires, though. And at least one of them DID attend JB at the autopsy.
 
  • #330
So, Tadpole, you now heard the arguments. Who would you put your money on? - SD

Well,
I ain't got no money, down to pocket lint and cookies crumbs, and I've never been a gambler.

I usually stick with the stats, and I can't get past that point ..... to a place where PR could not be the writer of the ransom note.

An intruder's attempt to disguise their handwriting as PR, the obsevation that family members have similar styles in writing, .....it's a big stretch for me to make, at this point in time, to disregard PR as the writer of the note, also, considering she is the only 1 of 74? not to be excluded.

SuperDave, you are a wealth of information ... more googlin' for me.
Very interesting background info re groupthink and qualifications of these experts. Thanks again for all the info, as usual, you and the other posters are a far better source than my google search engine!

Thank you, and please excuse me if I seem dense, but you seem to be saying two different things at once. It seems to me like you're saying "no way she could have written it," and "no one else could have" at the same time.

The English novelist Arthur Conan-Doyle once wrote that if you eliminate the impossible, that which remains, however unlikely, must be the truth.
 
  • #331
Before I get started, I strongly urge everyone, regardless of how they fell about the case, to check out an interview with Clint Van Zandt at
www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage It is extremely informative. Specific attention should be paid to his take on the ransom letter.

Now, it's my turn.

Tadpole, I won't bore you with a lot of technical details, so let me put it plainly:

YES, there is a bias. Most of the document examiners I've spoken to admit that it is not an exact science. It's basically one person, one opinion. And that bias comes in when the repudiation principle is affected. In other words, most document examiners start out on the premise that the two samples were written by different people. That article about the repudiation process has helped me greatly. Now I know where that 5-point scale nonsense came from!

And yes, different examiners do have different methodologies.



Sadly, analyzing cursive writing, i.e., signatures, and analyzing handprinting are as different as night and day. I mean, on the surface, Holdon's argument seems solid, but it's a bad comparison. It has a few other problems with it, which we will see as we go along.



If ONLY it were that simple!

The fact is, document examination is not an exact science. It's not like fingerprint comparison or blood-typing. If it really WERE as simple as Holdon makes it out to be, dueling experts would not exist, flat-out. The simple fact is you're just as likely to get a negative as a positive. It all depends on how the conclusion was reached: sample size, examination time, repudiation bias, that sort of thing. In this case, you have another problem: the writing was so heavily disguised. Let's face it, if you compare regular writing to regular writing, you'll come out one way. If you compare regular writing to disguised writing, it gets more interesting.
In all, a unanimous consensus is just about unheard of in document examination. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, but I have YET to find a case involving multiple document examiners where every single expert came to the same conclusion.

The second problem is that, as JMO8778 stated, the note was written with a felt-tip pen, which just about every document examiner involved with this case, regardless of where they came down on it, has said is the single WORST writing implement to do comparisons with. Especially in this case because the pen used to write the letter itself was very likely NOT used to write exemplars.

The third problem is that article from the Times was written very early on in the case. Let's take a look at what the CBI had to say a year later:

PMPT, pb, pages 536-537: "Either way, Ubowski was prepared to say 'Patsy wrote the note.' The CBI saw this as one more missed opportunity."

PMPT, pb, page 740: "the CBI presented their evaluations of the evidence, including Chet Ubowski, the handwriting expert, who reported that Patsy could not be excluded as the writer. He had also told his boss, Pete Mang, that his gut told him it was her handwriting."

In December of 2002, FOXNews did a piece on this case. Even though Ubowski was not interviewed directly, the reporter stated that Ubowski has said the only things that kept him from saying that it was her writing 100% were that the ink had bled so sloppily and that the letters themselves had been disguised." That meshes with what Steve Thomas wrote about him: that the methodology his group uses would not allow him to swear under oath with what he had.

And that brings me to the fourth problem. Groupthink. There are several groups of document examiners out there, with varying methodologies. To hear some people tell it, only one group has the seal of approval from US courts: the ABFDE (American Board of Forensic Document Examiners). That's not true; plenty of document examiners have been court-certified without belonging to it (including some in this case), but what you have to understand is the ABFDE has a vested interest in being the only one. Most people do not know about the amount of politicking that goes on with document analysis. Even I was not aware of it until recently. But the ABFDE has a vested interest in people believing that they're the real McCoy and that only their methodology is the correct one and everybody else is a fraud and a scam-artist. The reasons for this are fairly obvious: they don't want competition for all of those big-money government contracts. (To use a rather crude analogy, most of us pick the apple on top of the pile, right?) Document examination is a very small field. VERY small. Just about everyone knows each other. And for that reason, they very rarely challenge each other. Most of the document examiners probably did not want to challenge any of their own in court.

Now, to elaborate on this, most of the experts in this case are ABFDE members. Their conclusions are widely varying. Gideon Epstein (THE very best, from what I can gather), Larry Ziegler and Richard Williams all said that they were 100% sure PR wrote the ransom letter. Going down the scale, we have Ubowski, who was pretty sure; Leonard Speckin, who said he couldn't say she wrote it, but felt it was unlikely an intruder could have; Ed Alford, who wouldn't say one way or the other, and finally Richard Dusak, who said he had no reason to think she wrote it. (It has been noted, however, by Epstein AND OTHERS that Dusak is basically a DE in name only and does very little actual analysis).

Once you get outside the ABFDE bubble, the odds stack up very rapidly on my side of it. Trouble is, thanks to the politics and groupthink, these people are looked down upon by the ABFDE as frauds. Even Epstein was not immune to this. Even though he agreed with their findings, he said that they were essentially shooting in the dark and were not to be trusted.

Well, something must have changed his mind, because Epstein, who has always had a reputation as a maverick, is now one of the loudest voices for non-ABFDE examiners to be accepted as legit, challenging what he called the "narrow-mindedness of the profession I love so dearly."



Ah, except they DIDN'T come up empty, as I have just demonstrated.

To finish up, I offer my sincere admiration to Holdon. When he bothers to respond to a question or rebut a statement, he often does a fine job, keeping it simple and getting to the point. I expect nothing less from him.

So, Tadpole, you now heard the arguments. Who would you put your money on?

Hi SD,

Great post.
 
  • #332
I don't know, Holdon. You'd have to ask the FBI profilers who called them fake in the first place.

Of course it was faked ... some of it. Surely we all agree there was no "small foreign faction" as referred to in the note. This makes the note fake. The sexual assault (long term, faked, which is it?), and surely nobody can claim faked DNA.


Well, if you want to get absolutely pedantic about it, we're doing the exact opposite: cutting through the staging clutter to get to the meat-and-potatoes of the matter.

I think some things are being taken at face value and spun. Fingerprints on the pineapple bowl for example. Of course their prints are on the bowl .... they live there. There are pieces of evidence in this case that are being totally ignored. To me, that's spin.


I didn't want to do this, Holdon, but you have left me with no choice. When I said that Sarah Cherry had been the victim of a REAL sexual assault, you picked up on my implication immediately: that the sexual assault on JB was a phony, staged for benefit of someone (I'm not sure if fooling LE was top of the list). I could give you a big dissertation on that, but I think it would be even better to just give you the tale of the tape, no pun intended:

Sarah Cherry was found in the woods with sticks still protruding from her anus and vagina. That animal Dechaine assaulted her with them, left them in, killed her and just left her to rot.

That didn't happen with JB. Most likely what happened there is the person who "assaulted" her couldn't bear to look at what they were doing, so they took a blind shot that didn't even rupture the hymen (what was LEFT of it). They then wiped off the minimal blood caused by the intrusion, redressed her, wrapped her in a blanket and put the child's favorite piece of clothing in it with her.

Dennis Dechaine did not show that kind of tenderness. Jeffrey MacDonald did when he killed his children. (I STRONGLY suggest you research that case in regards to this one.) And as for the foreign faction idea, last I knew, these "foreign factions" weren't exactly known for their tenderness, as this captured Al-Qaeda manual shows:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0524072torture1.html


Sorry, but if killers came out of cookie cutter molds, this would be a good argument. Also, I wasn't aware the hymen was ruptured in the manner you're describing. Also, is there absolute proof she was redressed or is this speculation?

I don't know about that. A person flying by the seat of her pants, possibly on drugs to calm themselves, makes a spelling mistake? It's not that hard to believe, is it? Heck, I make spelling mistakes all the time, and I graduated from college with a 3.6 gpa.

On that note, Holdon, there was only ONE person who changed their writing after the murder. ONE. Do you know who it was?

This is total opinion. How do you support this statement with proof?


Wrong. The Treasury Department never examined the note. I think you refer to the retired Secret Service agent who made a hasty preliminary report (based on gods know how little material), and who, from what some of his collegues have said about him, doesn't even do that much document examination.

A hasty preliminary report? By what do you base this opinion on? Do you know exactly how much material was reviewed? What some guys colleagues said about him? The only statement in this whole thing that can be proven in any way is "the Treasury Dept. never examined the note".


Now if you all will excuse me for a moment, I'm so sick I could vomit.[/quote]
 
  • #333
Sorry, but I had to copy and paste the above post. Thanks.

Weasel
 
  • #334
Sorry, but I had to copy and paste the above post. Thanks.

Weasel

Can't really tell what you said and what SD said.



"no evidence to indicate that Patsy Ramsey executed any of the questioned material appearing on the Ransom Note." (SMF P 200; PSMF P 200.)" (Carnes 2003:26, note 14).

--Richard Dusak, ABFDE certified document examiner

Was Dusak employed as a document analyst for the U.S. Secret Service (a division of the U.S. Treasury Dept.) at the time of his conclusion? Maybe SD could provide some source that shows he was instead a retired guy volunteering is opinion on his own. Which is it?
 
  • #335
Of course it was faked ... some of it. Surely we all agree there was no "small foreign faction" as referred to in the note. This makes the note fake.

You might get some argument from Holdon about that!

The sexual assault (long term, faked, which is it?),

The assault was faked; the abuse was-long term. Let me elaborate:

In PMPT, the CASKU agents said, quote:

"The sexual violation of JonBenet, whether pre or postmortem did not appear to have been committed for the perpetrators gratification. The penetration, which caused minor genital trauma, was more likely part of a staged crime scene intended to mislead the police."

and surely nobody can claim faked DNA.

Last I knew, nobody was. Just dumb luck is all.

I think some things are being taken at face value and spun. Fingerprints on the pineapple bowl for example. Of course their prints are on the bowl .... they live there.

Then why not just SAY that instead of all of this nonsense? If people ONLY knew the full story behind the pineapple!

There are pieces of evidence in this case that are being totally ignored. To me, that's spin.

I know. We RDIs have to put up with that daily.

Sorry, but if killers came out of cookie cutter molds, this would be a good argument.

Don't give me that, weasel. You know darn well what I'm saying. I have YET to find a case where a pedophile killer "assaulted" a victim in this way, let alone put the clothes back on, got the kid's favorite nightgown and put a blanket over them!

A while ago, Holdon used the term "semi-assault." And he is correct.

Also, I wasn't aware the hymen was ruptured in the manner you're describing.

I didn't say the hymen WAS ruptured, weasel. I SPECIFICALLY said it wasn't.

Also, is there absolute proof she was redressed or is this speculation?

There is proof, all right: whoever violated her that night had to pull her pants off, take the blind shot, then pull them back up. (AFTER they wiped her off, of course.)

This is total opinion. How do you support this statement with proof?

Like this:

THOMAS: Why did you change your handwriting post-homicide?

P. RAMSEY: I didn't change my handwriting, Mr. Thomas.

THOMAS: Then why would questioned document experts and people who looked at the ransom note say that you changed handwriting habits after the homicide?


More specifically, that she would write an "a" like you see it typed here (and written in the ransom letter) BEFORE the killing, and would only write an "a" regular-style (apple-with-leaf, my mother called it). And just in case you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe your own eyes.

Look, here's the sampling she wrote for the police:

http://blabbieville.tripod.com/patsychart3-individual2.gif

This is a beauty pageant entry form written before that night:

http://blabbieville.tripod.com/entryforumsample2.gif

See the difference?

A hasty preliminary report?


That's right.

By what do you base this opinion on?

I'll show you! Mostly on the words of Chet Ubowski:

PMPT, pb, page 536-537 talks about this incident and how Ubowski was upset that they did it without asking him first. I quote:

"The police had never bothered to ask Ubowski if he had put his entire analysis of the ransom note into his report or whether it was his final report. Either way, Ubowski was prepared to say 'Patsy wrote the note.' The CBI saw this as another missed opportunity."

Not only that, but Ubowski was, at that time, trying to obtain more samples:

Agent Ubowski stated that the handwriting samples obtained from Patsy do not suggest the full range of her handwriting.”

Do you know exactly how much material was reviewed?

No, I can't say as I do. But apparently it wasn't much, given what I just gave you.

What some guys colleagues said about him?

I know what one of them said under oath.

The only statement in this whole thing that can be proven in any way is "the Treasury Dept. never examined the note".

Is it now?
 
  • #336
Can't really tell what you said and what SD said.

Never mind that just now.

"no evidence to indicate that Patsy Ramsey executed any of the questioned material appearing on the Ransom Note." (SMF P 200; PSMF P 200.)" (Carnes 2003:26, note 14).

--Richard Dusak, ABFDE certified document examiner

Holdon, if you're using the Carnes carnival of errors as a source for anything, you need more help than I can provide. I should also remind you where that "information" came from, and I wouldn't trust it as far as I can throw an aircraft carrier bare-handed.

Let me remind you of something else, Holdon (you too, weasel): the follow-up reports to the preliminaries have never been made public. The Ramseys have never released the reports done by their own experts, or anyone else for that matter. They release everything else. What are they hiding?

In 2006, during the media frenzy over John Mark Karr, Darnay Hoffman pointed out that the Ramseys had never released their handwriting reports publically, whereas they had released anything else that helped their case. He knew this from personal experience. In John Ramsey's deposition, Hoffman confronted Lin Wood with that knowledge. Wood said that he would do exactly that: make the reports public and shut Hoffman up. That never happened. A clue as to why that did not happen may be found in the deposition. Wood claims that he asked Hal Haddon, the Ramsey criminal lawyer for the reports, but Haddon wouldn't give them to him. Haddon cited Grand Jury secrecy laws. In mid-2001, Hoffman got a judge to rule Colorado's Grand Jury secrecy laws unconstitutional. Wood tried again after that ruling, and Haddon still wouldn't give them up. So I ask again: what are they hiding?

But I digress.

Was Dusak employed as a document analyst for the U.S. Secret Service (a division of the U.S. Treasury Dept.) at the time of his conclusion? Maybe SD could provide some source that shows he was instead a retired guy volunteering is opinion on his own.

Well, I can't find any information about his employment status one way or the other, Holdon. I think he's retired now. (A few of the other document examiners were, I know that.)

But if you want a source for when I said that he doesn't do very much actual document examination as a Secret Service agent, I do have a source, Mr. Epstein:

A. Dusak has a special job there. He works with a particular database. I don't know how much actual handwriting work he does. I mean, he works with what's known as the Fish database, it's a database for
handwriting, and he's pretty much responsible for that.


So triangulate that with what Ubowski said...
 
  • #337
...Surely we all agree there was no "small foreign faction" as referred to in the note.

Uh, no we don't.


RN author, known to be connected to the crime, explicitly and implicitly stated FFDI. RDI is clever and wise not to believe such hogwash. I, OTOH, will point out that the RN author's own FFDI claim has support even without the statements.

There is an angry socioeconomic gripe in the ransom note. "you're not the only fat cat so don't think that killing will be difficult." This doesn't even have anything to do with a kidnap for ransom. It was non sequitur. If JR wasn't a fat cat, then the perp could not very well expect to get any ransom for JBR. Its an unusual remark for a ransom kidnapper.

Nobody really knows what SBTC stands for. Its an unknown acronym.

The murder weapon is different. Not really strange, but different.

Nobody threatens to behead a child. This was barbaric.

Sexual assault? Yes/no/maybe. The nature of the sexual assault on JBR was strange.

Unusual, unknown, different, barbaric, and strange. Hmmmm.

Foreign, perhaps?
 
  • #338
Thanks for the link. After hearing that 911 call again, I don't think that Patsy sounds at all upset. She is breathing heavy...trying to SOUND like she is upset, but no crying or anything. And why the heck would a person hang up on a 911 operator? The 911 operator: "Patsy? Patsy? Patsy? Patsy?" Patsy had to go, because she had all of those friends that she needed to call to come over.

Yes and the "Police, We Have a Kidnapping!" and "OH MY Gaaad"! parts are my favorite. Who the heck says "Police, we have a kidnapping!"? anyways? I always laugh thinking about John jumping up and down in the kitchen mouthing the words "SBTC"! "Victory"! WE WERE ASLEEP SHE WAS ASLEEP THE NOTE WAS ON THE STAIRS EVERYONE WAS ASLEEP SBTC...KGB...KMFDM...
 
  • #339
Uh, no we don't.


RN author, known to be connected to the crime, explicitly and implicitly stated FFDI. RDI is clever and wise not to believe such hogwash. I, OTOH, will point out that the RN author's own FFDI claim has support even without the statements.

There is an angry socioeconomic gripe in the ransom note. "you're not the only fat cat so don't think that killing will be difficult." This doesn't even have anything to do with a kidnap for ransom. It was non sequitur. If JR wasn't a fat cat, then the perp could not very well expect to get any ransom for JBR. Its an unusual remark for a ransom kidnapper.

Nobody really knows what SBTC stands for. Its an unknown acronym.

The murder weapon is different. Not really strange, but different.

Nobody threatens to behead a child. This was barbaric.

Sexual assault? Yes/no/maybe. The nature of the sexual assault on JBR was strange.

Unusual, unknown, different, barbaric, and strange. Hmmmm.

Foreign, perhaps?



There is an angry socioeconomic gripe in the ransom note. "you're not the only fat cat so don't think that killing will be difficult." This doesn't even have anything to do with a kidnap for ransom. It was non sequitur.


That was non sequitur?? So when was the next note that referenced the "fat cat" i.e. garfeild? This SOCIOECONOMIC is sure making his way known...mmmmhhmmmm. Where is our great new leader? Surely he isn't hanging up on 911 calls or licking his dry gross lizard lips.:crazy:
 
  • #340
Uh, no we don't.


RN author, known to be connected to the crime, explicitly and implicitly stated FFDI. RDI is clever and wise not to believe such hogwash. I, OTOH, will point out that the RN author's own FFDI claim has support even without the statements.

There is an angry socioeconomic gripe in the ransom note. "you're not the only fat cat so don't think that killing will be difficult." This doesn't even have anything to do with a kidnap for ransom. It was non sequitur. If JR wasn't a fat cat, then the perp could not very well expect to get any ransom for JBR. Its an unusual remark for a ransom kidnapper.

Nobody really knows what SBTC stands for. Its an unknown acronym.

The murder weapon is different. Not really strange, but different.

Nobody threatens to behead a child. This was barbaric.

Sexual assault? Yes/no/maybe. The nature of the sexual assault on JBR was strange.

Unusual, unknown, different, barbaric, and strange. Hmmmm.

Foreign, perhaps?

Not sure why you can't see the OBVIOUS, but hey. Sure the nature of sexual assault was strange b/c it wasn't really ASSAULT! ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? ANY SEX PREDATOR THAT WOULD HAVE 'GOT' WITH JB WOULD HAVE DONE WAY MORE DAMAGE WAY MORE SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DRESSED HER AFTER.
 

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